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Spacelord

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At least finish high school. Then try and get a job. You can always consider going to college later (which is way, WAY better than high school)
 

Firia

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cimil said:
boholikeu said:
cimil said:
AnOriginalConcept said:
Why do you want to drop out? Perhaps the problem can be addressed.

I agree with the other posters.
I just totaly lack drive. I truely don't/can't give a shit. I'll sit there, knowing that my grade is plumeting and it doesn't bother me. All day I just sit there and phaze out, or serf around on my phone.
Honestly, it sounds like you are depressed, which means it would be a very bad idea to drop out now. If you lack drive now, what makes you think you are going to get enough drive to find a job that doesn't require a high school diploma (much less make it through the day-to-day boredom of that job)?

Also, what does make you feel motivated in life? Chances are that whatever your answer is to that question, a high school diploma will really help you achieve your goal. If your answer is "nothing", you definitely might want to consider talking to a counselor (most schools offer depression counseling for free).
honestly, as long as I can pay for a small apartment, food (ramen, mac, etc. Are fine by me), and the occasional treat, I'm ok
To do this, let me tell you what you'll require; You'll be working two jobs, likely minimum wage to a few cents above. 50-60 hours per week, of low end slog. You'll have one main job that's okay with you not being a graduate (or if you're lucky, didn't check), working 6-8 hours in a day. Then afterwards, you'll go to your next job, working 4 hours there. You'll come home to your small apartment, eat your 7-11 burrito, and pop in that movie from netflix. When your 21, you can even crack open a beer. Woo. You will then go to bed, because you'll be tired from working 10-12 hour days. Repeat, unto forever.

If you live in a state where the minimum wage is a little over 7 dollars, and lets say your main job pays you a few cents more, you'll have made something like 165 dollars that day. This is not bad, and can certainly afford you a living. But you'll be a slave to this working style.

In nearly all states in the USA, "minimum wage" is supposed to be the lowest value for which a person can survive on. This is not the case. Every citizen is entitled to at this this much, drop out or not. When I was first living on my own, I was a graduate, but still needed two jobs at one time. I made decent money. My main job paid me 11/hr, and my other job a little over 8 dollars. Every week was a 50hr work week, and I could afford a nice TV, a new Playstation with some games, a bike, etc. I could afford these treats. :) Did I ever have time? Rarely. Or I was so tired, I just stayed home playing games.

This was me ~WITH~ a diploma. I eventually made something of myself, and continue to do so with my current college path. When I was in HS, I didn't do to well either. I cared very little, but I finished. I did not move on to college right away because I didn't care. 10 years later, I appriciate what college and education was, what it means, and what it can do for me.

Maybe you need the same life lessons. Do what you will. It will come to you in time. In the meantime, prepare for a whole world of suck.
 

Aislin

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Have you tried looking into alternatives? I was like you are now just two years ago, but then I transfered to a continuation school. Half days and you earn credits one by one, so if you're behind you can catch up and even get ahead. One of my friends even graduated a year early that way. Or there's things like independent study. You go to school once a week or so just to turn in and get your homework. They also have those online high schools. Or start studying for your GED. You should try talking to your guidance counselor, they'll know more about your specific situation than strangers online. There are much better alternatives to dropping out.

Not to mention, the military very very rarely accepts you without a diploma or at least a GED.
 

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cimil said:
Yeah, so I'm basicaly done with school. Still not sure 'bout this, and not doing anything drastic yet. Probably gonna try to tough it out, but I'm really unsure. I know most of the downsides, but I really want to hear some ideas/thoughts on this from some one else.

I'm only 15 (16 in Feb), so I may have to wait until I'm old enough to secure some kind of job...


So, opinions?
Don't do it. I know it's hard, but I know that it will get better. Just tough it out.
 

voetballeeuw

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Don't do it. Do not. Tough it out, don't give up. Keep on keeping on. Never Give up, never surrender. Where are the Courage Wolf pics? We need Courage Wolf stat. I'd post some if I knew how.

Screw it, gonna just post Courage Wolf quotes. Not as good as the complete picture but what the hell.

"Bit off more than you can chew, then chew it."
"If you never give up, you never lose."
"An obstacle is just something you haven't torn through yet."
"You have no limits."
"If life asks for your all, give it even more."
"Even if you fall on your face, you're still moving forward."
"You are awesome, go and prove it."

Alright that should hold you over for now. Don't drop out.
 

Snor

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if you don't have at least a bachelors degree you will have a tough time (here anyway, except if you want to do a low skilled job or love building houses etc.)

anyway if you are bored go do something! work as a volunteer or find a job..
 

LitleWaffle

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Stormz said:
Not only is it a dumb idea, but isn't it illegal to drop out until you're 18?
I do believe that yes. Yes it is.

And once you're 18, then you're around senior year, which is the beezneez. And then there is college, which is pretty laid back, and a lot more awesome than high school.

Don't do it man!
 

mrF00bar

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Cheveyo said:
Don't be stupid. You're not going to get any job worth having if you screw up in school.
Finish high school, go to college. DO NOT BE A FUCK UP.

Trust me, I am one. It isn't a good life.
If college doesn't work out for you though at least you can use it as a buffer while you look for a job. Its what I am doing at the moment.
 

boholikeu

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cimil said:
boholikeu said:
cimil said:
AnOriginalConcept said:
Why do you want to drop out? Perhaps the problem can be addressed.

I agree with the other posters.
I just totaly lack drive. I truely don't/can't give a shit. I'll sit there, knowing that my grade is plumeting and it doesn't bother me. All day I just sit there and phaze out, or serf around on my phone.
Honestly, it sounds like you are depressed, which means it would be a very bad idea to drop out now. If you lack drive now, what makes you think you are going to get enough drive to find a job that doesn't require a high school diploma (much less make it through the day-to-day boredom of that job)?

Also, what does make you feel motivated in life? Chances are that whatever your answer is to that question, a high school diploma will really help you achieve your goal. If your answer is "nothing", you definitely might want to consider talking to a counselor (most schools offer depression counseling for free).
honestly, as long as I can pay for a small apartment, food (ramen, mac, etc. Are fine by me), and the occasional treat, I'm ok
Cool, in that case finishing high school would definitely help you towards that goal. Admittedly, you could probably afford the above without a HS diploma by working 2 jobs the rest of your life, but essentially your choice here is:

A) Suffer 3 more years and put out the effort needed to graduate. If you're really okay with a small apartment and dollar meals then you'll be set for the rest of your life.

B) Drop out and be forced to work multiple minimum wage jobs just to make ends meet. Plus, if you ever decide to get your GED later you'll have to do it while working 2 jobs at a time.

What's your family situation like? Are you going to get disowned/kicked out of the house for dropping out? If so, option B wouldn't even be possible because it's pretty hard to find and keep 2 jobs when you don't even have a roof over your head.
 

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Whatever's forcing you to drop out, if you do so, they've won. Think about that for a second. That bully, that girl, that prick of a teacher, laughing at you. You want them happy? I didn't think so. Wipe those damn smiles off their faces. If it's the school, create trouble for them, bad press and the like. If it's some former friends (or more) then blank 'em. If it's bullies, destroy them. They just want to hurt you because they like it. You want to survive. The person with better motivation always wins.

Edit: So it's lack of drive eh? I suspect there's someone who thinks you worthless. Some teacher that always gets on your back? They are your enemy. They want you to fail. They expect you to fail. Prove. Them. Wrong.
 

Soviet Steve

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cimil said:
So, opinions?
The labor market works on a supply and demand basis, so if you drop out of highschool then your labor will be worth just about the same as an illegal immigrant's labor.

The question you need to ask yourself is, do you want to live your entire life with your wage determined what a borderhopper can live on?

Keep in mind, this is not just latin Americans, the same rules apply for asians and africans who are used to a very low standard of living.
 

Shivarage

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I dropped out of university after 3 months (due to costs and being unimpressed with the quality of teaching) and hell, I'm glad I did cause hell, I love life so much more and my mates who graduated are in the exact same situation as me where none of us can get a job thanks to the recession :/

If my understanding of "high school" is correct, you may as well finish it cause its free but before you decide to go to uni/college, make sure you know what you want to do and keep this in mind - no matter how much they want you to believe, uni/college is NOT for everybody

good luck :)
 
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SODAssault said:
Speaking as a highschool dropout with a GED, trust me: you'll have a hard time so much as getting an interview if you can't say you have a diploma.

EDIT: Glad to see that every other person in this thread would call me a "fuck up" behind my back. You guys rule.
Not me. I get frustrated by the ridiculous emphasis that gets put on education as a means of determining a persons worth.

I didn't go to uni...I never hear the end of it. It seems that it is all that people in my age group want to talk about, and I notice that I get talked down to once I've told them I didn't go. Uni is about specific job training(and if that's not why you're there, you're probably wasting money), it doesn't grant you absolute intellectual superiority.


OP, it's a good move to finish high school. But your life will continue either way.
 

Shivarage

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Instant K4rma said:
I know people who have been searching fora job for months on end, and they've all graduated at least at the high school level. If they are struggling to find a job, someone who hasn't finished High School won't find a job. Don't drop out. You will regret it. You will. Now as to how this affects your actual decision? I hope it does at least a little, but if it doesn't: best of luck with whatever you do. Hopefully I'm wishing you best of luck in the remainder of your high school career, and if not, you'll really need all the luck you can get.
... I know people who havn't been to school at all and have jobs (I'm in Ireland)

The schools don't want you to know this but employers value experience over qualifications any day :/
 

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Sexual Harassment Panda said:
SODAssault said:
Speaking as a highschool dropout with a GED, trust me: you'll have a hard time so much as getting an interview if you can't say you have a diploma.

EDIT: Glad to see that every other person in this thread would call me a "fuck up" behind my back. You guys rule.
Not me. I get frustrated by the ridiculous emphasis that gets put on education as a means of determining a persons worth.

I didn't go to uni...I never hear the end of it. It seems that it is all that people in my age group want to talk about, and I notice that I get talked down to once I've told them I didn't go. Uni is about specific job training(and if that's not why you're there, you're probably wasting money), it doesn't grant you absolute intellectual superiority.


OP, it's a good move to finish high school. But your life will continue either way.
Agreed! been there, done that :/