Thinky time: Awkward or Awesome?
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I like the idea of it. But that kinda intertwines with my love of Elfen Lied, which has a character somewhat like that.
Gameplay speaking? I like the idea of characters being influenced by your actions in the way you explained. Drop the clothes sex and marriage thing(At least until later game/epilogues if you really want it in) and that is a issue gone pretty much.
You'd need to do extensive work with different cutscenes and random events(if you want) depending on the combinations of what you and she does.
I really like the idea of this, but do it well. <3
Gameplay speaking? I like the idea of characters being influenced by your actions in the way you explained. Drop the clothes sex and marriage thing(At least until later game/epilogues if you really want it in) and that is a issue gone pretty much.
You'd need to do extensive work with different cutscenes and random events(if you want) depending on the combinations of what you and she does.
I really like the idea of this, but do it well. <3
OK, I'm biased, but whatever - awesome idea. Utterly awesome. Details might need some work, though, that's why it's just an idea at this point. It's a bit like the pet from Black & White but as a companion. Also, it distantly reminds me of Fable. Keep the idea, try to implement it.
Now as for your questions
1: Who cares? Oh...right. Well, leave it open for interpretation. It could be that dude created a new body for himself, or maybe it's a spirit (or whatever have you) which just haves odd thinking patterns. Besides, what differentiates a child from an adult, really? If she learns and acts as an adult, is she? What about other adults, then, just because they have a couple of decades experience, are they better at being adults than her? people will pick on it. Let them. Make them. If you reach the point where massive threads of discussion surround the matter, I'll count it as a success.
2: Well, it could be, depending on the presentation. It doesn't have to be, though. If you're worried you can't write it "serious" enough, scale back the TnA.
3: Hmm. I'd rather have difference. Otherwise, she'll just end up being another Liara. I suppose you can base gender on what preference has the player shown so far. Also, good point to explore - the PC gets to like one NPC and suddenly a rival comes up.
Now as for your questions
1: Who cares? Oh...right. Well, leave it open for interpretation. It could be that dude created a new body for himself, or maybe it's a spirit (or whatever have you) which just haves odd thinking patterns. Besides, what differentiates a child from an adult, really? If she learns and acts as an adult, is she? What about other adults, then, just because they have a couple of decades experience, are they better at being adults than her? people will pick on it. Let them. Make them. If you reach the point where massive threads of discussion surround the matter, I'll count it as a success.
2: Well, it could be, depending on the presentation. It doesn't have to be, though. If you're worried you can't write it "serious" enough, scale back the TnA.
3: Hmm. I'd rather have difference. Otherwise, she'll just end up being another Liara. I suppose you can base gender on what preference has the player shown so far. Also, good point to explore - the PC gets to like one NPC and suddenly a rival comes up.
1: People see to be hyper-focusing on this as the core aspect of the game; its not. While, not totally. Your relationships with people and your party members are, but she would only be one of about 8 total party members. You could choose to totally ignore this quest and never see her - or you could just not choose to be romantically involved with her and choose one of your other party members (if you want that kind of thing).
The game isn't all about sex and marriage and that kind of thing. Its only to be important to a level where it would be realistically important to characters of the world - not that they'd shy away from it. Saying this one character is the "core" of the game is like saying that naming your Dog was the core of Dragon Age 2.
2: I had thought of how she would work more in the game, but I didn't feel to post it. Basically, in this world summoned demons and monsters are given their basic personality, focus and intelligence by their summoner - but generally bent on the dark end of things. However, since the Admirer was such an amateurish failure at life, the only thing he/she could imprint was the basic focus - You the player. Its also why its a female instead of a male if you're a woman, because he/she wasn't good enough to do so. (Its also why he/she is giblets after the summoning)
Since all she has is the focus - you - that's why she has to learn from you and why she obsessed with you. Keeping her does have consequences - keeping her majorly pisses off your more morally "upright" companions and people in the game, and if you choose to romance someone OTHER than her, depending on what she learned from you she might wind up thinking that Murdering the Hypotenuse is the correct solution; on the other hand she might learn to Accept the Decision and Get Along with the Hypotenuse.
3: Its not about "raising your own sex toy"; she merely provides an interesting demonstration to the player of the way they behave. Seeing a character behave a certain way because that's the way you behave might be a very sobering and reflective experience for many; which is one of the points of the game.
The game isn't all about sex and marriage and that kind of thing. Its only to be important to a level where it would be realistically important to characters of the world - not that they'd shy away from it. Saying this one character is the "core" of the game is like saying that naming your Dog was the core of Dragon Age 2.
2: I had thought of how she would work more in the game, but I didn't feel to post it. Basically, in this world summoned demons and monsters are given their basic personality, focus and intelligence by their summoner - but generally bent on the dark end of things. However, since the Admirer was such an amateurish failure at life, the only thing he/she could imprint was the basic focus - You the player. Its also why its a female instead of a male if you're a woman, because he/she wasn't good enough to do so. (Its also why he/she is giblets after the summoning)
Since all she has is the focus - you - that's why she has to learn from you and why she obsessed with you. Keeping her does have consequences - keeping her majorly pisses off your more morally "upright" companions and people in the game, and if you choose to romance someone OTHER than her, depending on what she learned from you she might wind up thinking that Murdering the Hypotenuse is the correct solution; on the other hand she might learn to Accept the Decision and Get Along with the Hypotenuse.
3: Its not about "raising your own sex toy"; she merely provides an interesting demonstration to the player of the way they behave. Seeing a character behave a certain way because that's the way you behave might be a very sobering and reflective experience for many; which is one of the points of the game.
Only if it had the killer twist that this thing was actually the person who did the ritual in a demonic form, and this was their way of making you love them, by making you slowly become attached. That would be one hell of an awesome twist, with the choice of killing them or something once you find out.
So long as their is an "evil" option, and by that I mean, drag them along and enslave them once you find out. BECAUSE EVIL.
So long as their is an "evil" option, and by that I mean, drag them along and enslave them once you find out. BECAUSE EVIL.
The whole having sex & getting married thing ruins it, all the character needs to do is develop fully in the way you described, and it'd be a really cool feature.
Not enough games have pets that can genuinely develop as the game progresses...I can't think of a single example other than a pet simulator I used to play back in the days of windows 95, where the alien could have kids & they would gradually grow more intelligent & become more independent (providing no asteroid strikes ripped them into the vacuum of space)
Not enough games have pets that can genuinely develop as the game progresses...I can't think of a single example other than a pet simulator I used to play back in the days of windows 95, where the alien could have kids & they would gradually grow more intelligent & become more independent (providing no asteroid strikes ripped them into the vacuum of space)
It's a fine idea, but it needs work.
Judging by what you said, interactions between the player and the character are a core aspect of the gameplay, and as such I think it'd be good to incorporate the contrasting opinions on this potential romance through the other characters, as a means to challenge the gamer's morality.
One of your party members might be opposed from the whole "she's too child-like" aspect, another might advise you against it on the grounds of her viewing the player more as a father than a love - and a union in such a way would be merely serving your own desires on a girl who is far too innocent/niave. Others can be for it.
But you would very much need to explore her origin a great deal more - it'd be a bit silly for the player character to suddenly forget the rather grisly origins through which she came into being.
But yeah, so long as there are consequences with regard to the other party member's opinion of you and indeed of the girl's opinion/well-being, it's an interesting concept, as it forces the player to consider the morality of such an action from numerous different points: the paternalistic debate, the under-developed mentality of the girl and the prospect of tapping something that could very well be demonic in nature.
It'd only be childish if you wrote in a childish way - approached maturely, it could be very interesting.
Judging by what you said, interactions between the player and the character are a core aspect of the gameplay, and as such I think it'd be good to incorporate the contrasting opinions on this potential romance through the other characters, as a means to challenge the gamer's morality.
One of your party members might be opposed from the whole "she's too child-like" aspect, another might advise you against it on the grounds of her viewing the player more as a father than a love - and a union in such a way would be merely serving your own desires on a girl who is far too innocent/niave. Others can be for it.
But you would very much need to explore her origin a great deal more - it'd be a bit silly for the player character to suddenly forget the rather grisly origins through which she came into being.
But yeah, so long as there are consequences with regard to the other party member's opinion of you and indeed of the girl's opinion/well-being, it's an interesting concept, as it forces the player to consider the morality of such an action from numerous different points: the paternalistic debate, the under-developed mentality of the girl and the prospect of tapping something that could very well be demonic in nature.
It'd only be childish if you wrote in a childish way - approached maturely, it could be very interesting.
I'll say this much I can see why people see this as creepy and lets face it, it is rather creepy. The point is, it seems like you would be raising this demonette, and say if I am wrong but it is generally weird to fuck stuff you are trying to raise.
Imagine the scene (Demon and PC in the throws of passion)
PC: OOHH YEEAHH WHO'S YOUR DADDY?
Demon: YOU ARE! :3
PC: Huh.. Oh wait.... uh yes I am......awkward
Also the way you aquire her seems a bit questionable, for all I would know she could be some disgusting abomination in human shape. My first instinct would be to go up and slash at her with my axe, sword and oversized barbarian chin, so I wouldn't experience this anyway.
I am not completely opposed to the idea though, it would make a more interesting relationship than usual. Maybe if you could make a bit less of the players responsibility it would be less weird.
I would prefer to know more about the game as a whole more than a romance side quest. Although a fantasy Dating sim with murder of elfs, orcs, wolf and cyclopes would be cool, I want to hear more about something like that.
I also suggest before you continue this Idea you watched the film Spliced, your idea is basically the plot of the film.
Imagine the scene (Demon and PC in the throws of passion)
PC: OOHH YEEAHH WHO'S YOUR DADDY?
Demon: YOU ARE! :3
PC: Huh.. Oh wait.... uh yes I am......awkward
Also the way you aquire her seems a bit questionable, for all I would know she could be some disgusting abomination in human shape. My first instinct would be to go up and slash at her with my axe, sword and oversized barbarian chin, so I wouldn't experience this anyway.
I am not completely opposed to the idea though, it would make a more interesting relationship than usual. Maybe if you could make a bit less of the players responsibility it would be less weird.
I would prefer to know more about the game as a whole more than a romance side quest. Although a fantasy Dating sim with murder of elfs, orcs, wolf and cyclopes would be cool, I want to hear more about something like that.
I also suggest before you continue this Idea you watched the film Spliced, your idea is basically the plot of the film.
You forget she isn't the only romance option - there'd be up to like, 7 other characters too.Esotera said:
She'd just be one.
Well...you really wouldn't be her dad. She technically wouldn't have one.verdant monkai said:
But that is awkward none the less.