This is why I think that animals are superior to humans

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ruben6f

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This:

I warn you that the video contains shocking footage that shouldn't be seen by children, the website is in portuguese but all you have to do is play the video, that video says it all.

http://brasiluniversodigital.blogspot.com/2011/07/chocante-18-dois-garotos-ateiam-fogo-em.html


I think that these kids are monsters and should be punished, I also think that animals like the poor dog in the video are superior to humans.

Why?
Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason, animals don't hate and animals don't laugh when they kill someone in a horrible way (hyenas do not laugh just saying), humans on the other hand do these things to animals and other humans.

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured, when animals attack a human they have a reason.

Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.

I am usually against killing someone as a way to punish said person, I only support death as a punishment in cases like crimes against humanity and animal cruelty (sounds bad I know but again animals>humans).

I think some people will complain if I don't tell them what they should think about so here:

What kind of punishment should these kids receive?
Does my logic make sense?
Should people receive as a punishment death for animal cruelty?

Thanks for reading.


Edit: The video was not filmed in Brasil, it was posted on youtube and downloaded before it got removed.

Another edit: thanks for telling me that about dolphins, I will do some exploring on the internet involving dolphins.
Also I know that humans are animals but humans are racional animals while others are irracional animals (that's what people told me when I was younger).

Yet another edit: don't quote me unless you wrote something good, I dont' want to read walls of text
 

kebab4you

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Anyone that insist on tourture animals like in the vide should get sent to a lifetime in prison, killing them off would be nice to them, let them rot inside a freaking box for the rest of there life instead.
As far as logic go I will have to disagree, animals are just as mean[footnote]Most of em[/footnote] just way behind in logic and reasoning so they don't stand much chance against a human.
 

Damien Black

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No; you're wrong about animals being unable to kill for pleasure or sport, but I'm not informed enough to educate you myself.

Further, even if you were correct that only humans have that capacity, it is that very capacity that takes us above the level of animals morally. Humans have the capacity and, some might argue the tendency, for that behavior; the fact that the majority of humans can spend their entire lives without indulging in that capacity is a massive pro in our favor.

Beyond even this however, if you think we are so far removed from our animal roots as to be creatures of pure reason... well, you're wrong. Humans don't just lash out for no reason. Even if you can't see the reason, it's there. Just like an abused dog will lash out at all humans, we as humans have that same reaction. What then about people who have psychological issue, literal chemical imbalances in the brain? Are they to be put down for behavior that they have no control over?
 

ZeroMachine

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Just like any other young guy on the internet.

Focusing on the bad shit humans do.

Open your fucking eyes, man. For every horrible atrocity we commit, there's someone else doing one of the nicest things ever done and helping people.
 

Cowabungaa

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First of all; we are animals, so don't try to seperate us or anything.

Second, yes other critters do. Look up what dolphins sometimes do to baby dolphins and baby porpoises. Certain predators also kill without really wanting to eat.

As for those kids, punish the fuck out of them.
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That and as a dog owner I can tell you dogs definitely are not superior. I have observed my dog walking in to glass doors and getting stuff stuck under the sofa enough times to testify to that.
Hah, humans do stuff like that so much as well. You should've seen my little sister when she was little, many lulz were had. Hell even adults.
 

Verlander

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All humans are exactly the same, and all animals are exactly the same. Is that what you're saying? Some animals do kill for fun, and a vast majority of humans don't. You should stop generalising.
 

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A. Torturing animals is wrong and cruel, but don't speak as if that behavior is representative of all humans

B. Humans are animals. Just because we're the smartest on earth doesn't mean we're all that different. We still follow instincts, pheromones, all that primitive crap, even if we don't realize it.

C. Animals DO fight. A lot. Tons of animals kill for pleasure/sport. Even more animals kill to eat, and in FAR more gruesome ways than how humans raise livestock.

DOLPHINS, of all things have been known to kill and gangbang other creatures (including other dolphins) simply because they can.

D. I feel this is relevant.

 

HumpinHop

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Dolphins will kill baby seals and play with them for fun if I recall.

That isn't to excuse the children's behavior, though. I really don't believe animal cruelty should warrant an execution, maybe just for future job applications they could be qualified as "sick fucks".

You're focusing on humans capacity for evil and ignoring their ability for good. Animals may be a gray level somewhere in the middle, but don't neglect the people who are volunteering in other countries or serving in the military.
 

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Ever heard of Ichneumon wasps? They paralyze certain worms and then lay their eggs in them. The worm keeps on going but when the eggs hatch the larvae start eating the worm from the inside. It's not a pretty death.

Now, the thing that sets humans apart from animals (not making us 'better', mind you) is that we classify that as rather cruel while the wasp doesn't know any better.
 

Hagi

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http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21028154.700-californian-dolphin-gang-caught-killing-porpoises.html

Dolphins are ass-holes too, we're not alone.

On a more serious note:
Those children are acting monstrous. They should likely be taken away from their parents as I don't believe such a thing would ever happen if they had halfway decent parents. The parents should receive jail-time or a very serious fine. The children should be put in a children's home or foster family that has experience on dealing with serious juvenile criminals.
 

crop52

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That kind of thing should be a war crime. Because it's that bad.

But still, people aren't that bad.
Fucking chimps have tribe battles and eat children chimps just for the fuck of it. Dolphins also have sex slaves and kill for fun.

It's a product of intelligence. Humans are just so intelligent that we've created morals.
 

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I hate people like you, who makes themselves look like idiots. That statement insults me and my entire family. I could write an entire essay but I just have one point, if your going to select a random loser and say they represent the entire race, then that's just unfair. Also animals are usually unpredictable and attack out of instinct they don't rationalize situations like humans do, because guess what a fox and dogs maul small children (babies and toddlers) when they obviously pose them no threat.

I'm surprised you think that animals are "superior" than humans because if you were dropped in a middle of a lion pride, none of them would fight your rights they'll just eat you, when they got hungry. A shark never pauses to think about the effect its having on the environment and while animals accomplish great things, nothing surpasses the human race.

So I pose you a question and to anyone else, do you think that 'you' are better than an animal? What about Einstein, Lincoln, Luther-King, Tesla, or any other great human being, are they superior to animals? Does the animal kingdom have a heroes like these?

If your answer is yes, to any of these than you have issues because you can't let acts of human stupidity outweigh all that we have accomplished. Stop putting yourself down we're better than that,
 

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Some people just need to be killed. It's the way of things. However that doesn't mean that everyone is a terrible monster.
 

ruben6f

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ZeroMachine said:
Just like any other young guy on the internet.

Focusing on the bad shit humans do.

Open your fucking eyes, man. For every horrible atrocity we commit, there's someone else doing one of the nicest things ever done and helping people.
I do not focus on the bad things, yes good things are done every day but I was shocked by this video.
 

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ruben6f said:
This:

http://brasiluniversodigital.blogspot.com/2011/07/chocante-18-dois-garotos-ateiam-fogo-em.html

I warn you that the video contains shocking footage that shouldn't be seen by children, the website is in portuguese but all you have to do is play the video, that video says it all.

I think that these kids are monsters and should be punished, I also think that animals like the poor dog in the video are superior to humans.

Why?
Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason, animals don't hate and animals don't laugh when they kill someone in a horrible way (hyenas do not laugh just saying), humans on the other hand do these things to animals and other humans.

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured, when animals attack a human they have a reason.

Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.

I am usually against killing someone as a way to punish said person, I only support death as a punishment in cases like crimes against humanity and animal cruelty (sounds bad I know but again animals>humans).

I think some people will complain if I don't tell them what they should think about so here:

What kind of punishment should these kids receive?
Does my logic make sense?
Should people receive as a punishment death for animal cruelty?

Thanks for reading.


Edit: The video was not filmed in Brasil, it was posted on youtube and downloaded before it got removed.
There are animal who will pl.ay with their food before eating it. A cat will torment a moue before consuming it, and animal cubs/pup/ect will play with food caught by the parent in order to learn skills. In some cases animals have been observing killing for no apparent reason. As others have stated before me; we aren't the only animals to do so.

It is reasonable to think that human children's behavior may be influenced by evolutionary instinct that has since become pointless.

Humans are also one of the few species to show inter-species altruism. You having concern for the animals is evidence to support this. I believe the only other species to do this are cetaceans (dolphins/whales/porpoises) and domesticated animals who are trained to do so like dogs.

The fact that there are some bad humans does not mean the species in its entirety is bad. Since humans are creatures whose behavior and skills are almost entirely learned (as opposed to instinct) it wouldn't even be fair to say humans are an evil species since the majority of humans are evil (which they aren't).

Also as for your whole "animals don't hate/cause pain/ect" that is a romanticism of the truth. There are animals that have been known to seek revenge (Cape Buffalo for example), and animals who don't "hate" or "laugh while causing pain" aren't that way because they have come to respect the sanctity of life or anything like that. They simply don't have the capacity to do so.

So while I agree that there are certainly humans we can be ashamed of; That in no way means humans are bad as a whole (we're fucking pointing out bad behavior for fucks sake), or that animals are somehow better in any capacity.

I mean, this is starting to get off topic but you see the fallacy in that right? You take one example (or dozens whatever) of human cruelty and say, Humans are bad. Completely ignoring that you are human, you are pointing out bad, and the equally vast amounts of human compassion both inter-species and intra-species. The logic in "Humans are bad" is insane.