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TheMagicIndian

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I have never literally been blind with rage but I came damn close with that. That was just... disgusting. I almost crushed my mouse in my hand while watching that.


I'll never be able to say "Kill it with fire!" in jest again...
 

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ruben6f said:
This:

http://brasiluniversodigital.blogspot.com/2011/07/chocante-18-dois-garotos-ateiam-fogo-em.html

I warn you that the video contains shocking footage that shouldn't be seen by children, the website is in portuguese but all you have to do is play the video, that video says it all.

I think that these kids are monsters and should be punished, I also think that animals like the poor dog in the video are superior to humans.

Why?
Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason, animals don't hate and animals don't laugh when they kill someone in a horrible way (hyenas do not laugh just saying), humans on the other hand do these things to animals and other humans.

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured, when animals attack a human they have a reason.

Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.

I am usually against killing someone as a way to punish said person, I only support death as a punishment in cases like crimes against humanity and animal cruelty (sounds bad I know but again animals>humans).

I think some people will complain if I don't tell them what they should think about so here:

What kind of punishment should these kids receive?
Does my logic make sense?
Should people receive as a punishment death for animal cruelty?

Thanks for reading.


Edit: The video was not filmed in Brasil, it was posted on youtube and downloaded before it got removed.

Another edit: thanks for telling me that about dolphins, I will do some exploring on the internet involving dolphins.
Also I know that humans are animals but humans are racional animals while others are irracional animals (that's what people told me when I was younger).
Oh yay , another person , putting a video of animal cruelty to get many posts and reactions . My answer is SO WHAT . Now before the inevitable flaming ( to which i shall not replay ), i'll explain. Some HUMANS are cruel to ANIMALS, but guess what, HUMANS are cruel to HUMANS too ( yeah go figure right ?) Humans are getting , violenced , dismembered , killed, tortured , etc... AS WE SPEAK. But are you making a thread on Violence in the world no , but look at the cute little doggie he doesn't deserve that right? You are naive, also if you think for a minute that that shit does not go on everywhere in the world, your just stupid. But why for the love of all thats good, should ANYONE care about an animal, when PEOPLE are suffering? People are getting killed everyday, by other people, and you stop to mention animal getting beat by CHILDREN of all things? Children being the furthest thing from the most rational or intelligent being on this planet? Really? These kids should not be punish , i even believe they should be congratulated, not for hurting the animal ( which i DO think is wrong , but not as apauling as you think it is ), but for making you take of your rose colored glasses and seeing things how they are. Also KILLING a PERSON for ANIMAL cruelty ? WHAT ? i have to assume this is a joke, because in most places DEATH ISN'T EVEN A PENALTY FOR HUMAN CRUELTY ! That doesn't make sense on so many levels. You know what, walk outside your white pickit fence, visite the world, see things for what they really are , get your head out of the clouds, THEN and only then MAKE A THREAD about cruelty.
 

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Cowabungaa said:
Hah, humans do stuff like that so much as well. You should've seen my little sister when she was little, many lulz were had. Hell even adults.
I have to admit when I was a kid I ran full speed into a glass patio door and bounced straight off. It took me a minute to figure out where the forcefield had come from.

As for the sofa, my dog's developed this habit of throwing his kong (a really incredibly tough toy that's hollow so you can put food in it) against the floor to dislodge the food. Once a day at least he'll push it under the sofa, then sit there whistling at you until you get it for him.
That my friend is a sign of adaptability and intelligence. While it does seem rather stupid that the dog throws things under the couch(though it probably cannot comprehend basic physics except ball "goes bounce"), he has found a way to get it back via you since he is physically unable to do so.

On topic: If we base a being's value on how little negativ effect it has on it's surroundings and other beings then I would also agree that animals > humans. Then again I'd also have problems deciding whether to safe an animal or a human.
 

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krazykidd said:
ruben6f said:
This:

http://brasiluniversodigital.blogspot.com/2011/07/chocante-18-dois-garotos-ateiam-fogo-em.html

I warn you that the video contains shocking footage that shouldn't be seen by children, the website is in portuguese but all you have to do is play the video, that video says it all.

I think that these kids are monsters and should be punished, I also think that animals like the poor dog in the video are superior to humans.

Why?
Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason, animals don't hate and animals don't laugh when they kill someone in a horrible way (hyenas do not laugh just saying), humans on the other hand do these things to animals and other humans.

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured, when animals attack a human they have a reason.

Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.

I am usually against killing someone as a way to punish said person, I only support death as a punishment in cases like crimes against humanity and animal cruelty (sounds bad I know but again animals>humans).

I think some people will complain if I don't tell them what they should think about so here:

What kind of punishment should these kids receive?
Does my logic make sense?
Should people receive as a punishment death for animal cruelty?

Thanks for reading.


Edit: The video was not filmed in Brasil, it was posted on youtube and downloaded before it got removed.

Another edit: thanks for telling me that about dolphins, I will do some exploring on the internet involving dolphins.
Also I know that humans are animals but humans are racional animals while others are irracional animals (that's what people told me when I was younger).
Oh yay , another person , putting a video of animal cruelty to get many posts and reactions . My answer is SO WHAT . Now before the inevitable flaming ( to which i shall not replay ), i'll explain. Some HUMANS are cruel to ANIMALS, but guess what, HUMANS are cruel to HUMANS too ( yeah go figure right ?) Humans are getting , violenced , dismembered , killed, tortured , etc... AS WE SPEAK. But are you making a thread on Violence in the world no , but look at the cute little doggie he doesn't deserve that right? You are naive, also if you think for a minute that that shit does not go on everywhere in the world, your just stupid. But why for the love of all thats good, should ANYONE care about an animal, when PEOPLE are suffering? People are getting killed everyday, by other people, and you stop to mention animal getting beat by CHILDREN of all things? Children being the furthest thing from the most rational or intelligent being on this planet? Really? These kids should not be punish , i even believe they should be congratulated, not for hurting the animal ( which i DO think is wrong , but not as apauling as you think it is ), but for making you take of your rose colored glasses and seeing things how they are. Also KILLING a PERSON for ANIMAL cruelty ? WHAT ? i have to assume this is a joke, because in most places DEATH ISN'T EVEN A PENALTY FOR HUMAN CRUELTY ! That doesn't make sense on so many levels. You know what, walk outside your white pickit fence, visite the world, see things for what they really are , get your head out of the clouds, THEN and only then MAKE A THREAD about cruelty.
Sorry wall of text won't bother reading more than half, and I did not do this thread because of posts, I did this because in the site they ask to spread the video around (if you want to know why use google translator) and I wold step outside but the kids made me take of my glasses and now I can't see very well.
 

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To answer all 3 of your questions in the order you asked them

1)The maximum sentence for Animal Cruelty for a minor. I'm not gonna support anything more then that simply because that is the maximum limit set up by their Judicial system.

2) Not really, Animals can be just as sadistic as humans can be. People have already talked about horror stories involving Dolphins, but there are plenty of other examples. Lions and tigers and bears (Oh my.)will easily attack a human being if they believe that it is an easy meal. Same goes for Aligators, Wolves, any large cat, and Sharks. The day you think a wild animal will not attack you unless you provoke it is the day you learn lesson.

3)No. Just no. The day we start treating the life an animal the same as a human is the day I choose to leave this planet. Don't get me wrong, I love animals, but I will never, ever support someone dies for killing a dog or any other animal, intentional or not.
 

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I don't think that this speaks for all humans. What these kids was wrong, plain and simple. They should be punished severely. But their actions don't reflect the attitudes of most humans.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
The day you think a wild animal will not attack you unless you provoke it is the day you learn lesson.
It's always important to remember that what a human thinks of as provocative and what an animal perceives as provocative aren't the same thing.
 

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ruben6f said:
This:

http://brasiluniversodigital.blogspot.com/2011/07/chocante-18-dois-garotos-ateiam-fogo-em.html

I warn you that the video contains shocking footage that shouldn't be seen by children, the website is in portuguese but all you have to do is play the video, that video says it all.

I think that these kids are monsters and should be punished, I also think that animals like the poor dog in the video are superior to humans.

Why?
Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason, animals don't hate and animals don't laugh when they kill someone in a horrible way (hyenas do not laugh just saying), humans on the other hand do these things to animals and other humans.

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured, when animals attack a human they have a reason.

Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.

I am usually against killing someone as a way to punish said person, I only support death as a punishment in cases like crimes against humanity and animal cruelty (sounds bad I know but again animals>humans).

I think some people will complain if I don't tell them what they should think about so here:

What kind of punishment should these kids receive?
Does my logic make sense?
Should people receive as a punishment death for animal cruelty?

Thanks for reading.


Edit: The video was not filmed in Brasil, it was posted on youtube and downloaded before it got removed.

Another edit: thanks for telling me that about dolphins, I will do some exploring on the internet involving dolphins.
Also I know that humans are animals but humans are racional animals while others are irracional animals (that's what people told me when I was younger).
I was walking down the street the other day. I went into a shop to buy a gregs sausage role when the woman in front of me was short 50 pence of a meal. She looked stressed and hungry. I gave her my 50 pence, and got myself only a single sausage role rather than that an a desert. Why did i help this woman? She had no relation to me. I didnt know her. She wasnt part of my "pack". She thanked me, smiled and left eating it looking happier. Animals dont do random acts of violence but they also have NO random acts of love. And empathy. Not to those that they are not in family relation too. Or have nothing to gain from raising. And dont call "dog raises kitten on me" i dont accept maternal instinct as kindness. I mean true random kindness from one species to another random species. For no reason. Maybe its there occasionally. But people do it. A lot. More than you would think.

http://www.kittenspet.com/marines-acquired-cats/

Even in a warzone humans stop to love and show compassion. We are truly a bi polar species. But there we go. It happens. And we do goddam good things for eachother. You give money to charity? You want to help a faceless person thousands of miles away you have never met or will ever meet. Ever. Animals have No such instinct or thought. We are better. We just dont always show it.
 

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Makes me think of the people who think living in the wild is best for animals. Nature is cruel. Also the smarter the animal te more capable of atrocities, as well as good deeds. Remember, human is the only animal even considering other animals.

Maybe bunnies? They're awesome and superior in many ways.
 

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Yes, other species may "sport" by killing, but we DO have a choice, and a conscious. We may be superior to other animals, but inflicting pain on any other creature is just outlandish and demonic...
Yes, it's just a dog, but, seriously... going out of your way to kill something like that. Man, it makes me just disgusted.
Animals, however, are not SUPERIOR to humans, nor will they ever be. We all share the same planet and do things differently. We, as humans, have a distinct ability to make choices with reason behind it. We should be doing the things we do with reason behind it.
Also, please make sure you put more of a warning on this thread, above the link posted. Just in case someone were to look at the link before reading the post, like myself >.> scared the shit outta me.
Makes me happy that I try to live an honest and good life. Glad I was born with sense and a heart, unlike those idiots.
Well, there's the low point of my day. >.>
 

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BiscuitTrouser said:
ruben6f said:
This:

http://brasiluniversodigital.blogspot.com/2011/07/chocante-18-dois-garotos-ateiam-fogo-em.html

I warn you that the video contains shocking footage that shouldn't be seen by children, the website is in portuguese but all you have to do is play the video, that video says it all.

I think that these kids are monsters and should be punished, I also think that animals like the poor dog in the video are superior to humans.

Why?
Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason, animals don't hate and animals don't laugh when they kill someone in a horrible way (hyenas do not laugh just saying), humans on the other hand do these things to animals and other humans.

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured, when animals attack a human they have a reason.

Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.

I am usually against killing someone as a way to punish said person, I only support death as a punishment in cases like crimes against humanity and animal cruelty (sounds bad I know but again animals>humans).

I think some people will complain if I don't tell them what they should think about so here:

What kind of punishment should these kids receive?
Does my logic make sense?
Should people receive as a punishment death for animal cruelty?

Thanks for reading.


Edit: The video was not filmed in Brasil, it was posted on youtube and downloaded before it got removed.

Another edit: thanks for telling me that about dolphins, I will do some exploring on the internet involving dolphins.
Also I know that humans are animals but humans are racional animals while others are irracional animals (that's what people told me when I was younger).
I was walking down the street the other day. I went into a shop to buy a gregs sausage role when the woman in front of me was short 50 pence of a meal. She looked stressed and hungry. I gave her my 50 pence, and got myself only a single sausage role rather than that an a desert. Why did i help this woman? She had no relation to me. I didnt know her. She wasnt part of my "pack". She thanked me, smiled and left eating it looking happier. Animals dont do random acts of violence but they also have NO random acts of love. And empathy. Not to those that they are not in family relation too. Or have nothing to gain from raising. And dont call "dog raises kitten on me" i dont accept maternal instinct as kindness. I mean true random kindness from one species to another random species. For no reason. Maybe its there occasionally. But people do it. A lot. More than you would think.

http://www.kittenspet.com/marines-acquired-cats/

Even in a warzone humans stop to love and show compassion. We are truly a bi polar species. But there we go. It happens. And we do goddam good things for eachother. You give money to charity? You want to help a faceless person thousands of miles away you have never met or will ever meet. Ever. Animals have No such instinct or thought. We are better. We just dont always show it.
I know humans can be kind, but humans fight because of greed and other things I won't bother saying, also no I don't want to help people thousands of miles away when I have my own problems.
 

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Almgandi said:
That my friend is a sign of adaptability and intelligence. While it does seem rather stupid that the dog throws things under the couch(though it probably cannot comprehend basic physics except ball "goes bounce"), he has found a way to get it back via you since he is physically unable to do so.
Actually all jokes aside we're very impressed with our dog, he's from a smart breed and has good pedigree so he's really quite clever for a dog.

For a dog.

Fact is that compared to people dogs are astoundingly stupid, I'd use that as an example of people being better than dogs though I'll concede that for a dog our one is really rather intelligent. Also my mother named him Doctor Zoidberg so his genius at getting food is somewhat appropriate.
I like his name xD. But yeah it is kind of obvious that dogs aren't as intelligent as humans but calling them stupid is kind of..... stupid. not saying that there aren't stupid dogs but since we (humans) tend to call individuals stupid who are of lesser intelligence than the average human it wouldn't seem right to call them stupid just because of their brain's size will never be as big as that of a human and while size doesn't necessariy mean more inteligent it does limit the point of highest possible IQ.

Sorry for the unessecary text but I just felt like it.


BiscuitTrouser said:
I was walking down the street the other day. I went into a shop to buy a gregs sausage role when the woman in front of me was short 50 pence of a meal. She looked stressed and hungry. I gave her my 50 pence, and got myself only a single sausage role rather than that an a desert. Why did i help this woman? She had no relation to me. I didnt know her. She wasnt part of my "pack". She thanked me, smiled and left eating it looking happier. Animals dont do random acts of violence but they also have NO random acts of love. And empathy. Not to those that they are not in family relation too. Or have nothing to gain from raising. And dont call "dog raises kitten on me" i dont accept maternal instinct as kindness. I mean true random kindness from one species to another random species. For no reason. Maybe its there occasionally. But people do it. A lot. More than you would think.

http://www.kittenspet.com/marines-acquired-cats/

Even in a warzone humans stop to love and show compassion. We are truly a bi polar species. But there we go. It happens. And we do goddam good things for eachother. You give money to charity? You want to help a faceless person thousands of miles away you have never met or will ever meet. Ever. Animals have No such instinct or thought. We are better. We just dont always show it.
I call BS. My dog is fully capable to show empaphy towards other animals even of other species. Not saying that any lion will help the old hippopotamus across the street but there is a major difference between you and the lion; the situation. You can easily spare some money and are in a situation in which your life is not endagered because of it. Animals in the wild have to act like complete pricks just to ensure that they survive, which we btw made worse by cutting down loads of m^2 of jungles and therefore a lot more monkeys killing monkeys for terretory etc.
 

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ruben6f said:
Gsmoove said:
I hate people like you, who makes themselves look like idiots. That statement insults me and my entire family. I could write an entire essay but I just have one point, if your going to select a random loser and say they represent the entire race, then that's just unfair. Also animals are usually unpredictable and attack out of instinct they don't rationalize situations like humans do, because guess what a fox and dogs maul small children (babies and toddlers) when they obviously pose them no threat.

I'm surprised you think that animals are "superior" than humans because if you were dropped in a middle of a lion pride, none of them would fight your rights they'll just eat you, when they got hungry. A shark never pauses to think about the effect its having on the environment and while animals accomplish great things, nothing surpasses the human race.

So I pose you a question and to anyone else, do you think that 'you' are better than an animal? What about Einstein, Lincoln, Luther-King, Tesla, or any other great human being, are they superior to animals? Does the animal kingdom have a heroes like these?

If your answer is yes, to any of these than you have issues because you can't let acts of human stupidity outweigh all that we have accomplished. Stop putting yourself down we're better than that,


There are many stories of animals that saved humans (both trained animals and wild animals).
And there's even more stories of people saving animals, or other people.

Animals aren't better than people. Certain people, definitely.
 
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ruben6f said:
Gsmoove said:
I hate people like you, who makes themselves look like idiots. That statement insults me and my entire family. I could write an entire essay but I just have one point, if your going to select a random loser and say they represent the entire race, then that's just unfair. Also animals are usually unpredictable and attack out of instinct they don't rationalize situations like humans do, because guess what a fox and dogs maul small children (babies and toddlers) when they obviously pose them no threat.

I'm surprised you think that animals are "superior" than humans because if you were dropped in a middle of a lion pride, none of them would fight your rights they'll just eat you, when they got hungry. A shark never pauses to think about the effect its having on the environment and while animals accomplish great things, nothing surpasses the human race.

So I pose you a question and to anyone else, do you think that 'you' are better than an animal? What about Einstein, Lincoln, Luther-King, Tesla, or any other great human being, are they superior to animals? Does the animal kingdom have a heroes like these?

If your answer is yes, to any of these than you have issues because you can't let acts of human stupidity outweigh all that we have accomplished. Stop putting yourself down we're better than that,
Lions wold eat you because they are hungry, they want to survive and in order to do that they must eat, they eat meat and you are meat it's simple.

There are many stories of animals that saved humans (both trained animals and wild animals).

Animals aren't racist and don't need to accomplish anything besides trying to survive in a world that we humans are killing.

And yes I am an idiot I think I made it clear that all humans are idiots.
I think your ignoring the fact that we humans have saved animals, and we didn't get to the top by being submissive minnows... Here's the thing, we're MORE INTELLIGENT. Ergo, we're superior, even in most cases if you include morals. Anyone who denies that animals also fight to be "alpha" or the last animal standing is an idiot.
 

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BiscuitTrouser said:
ruben6f said:
Youve never given any money time or support to any charitable cause ever? Really? Well maybe you are worse than most people but most people have.
I don't donate because I can't, I am broke and that is my problem, how can I help if I can't do anything?

And don't tell me "spread the message" that is useless, and I am in fact a very bad person, I don't help people and I don't care, because other people have no problem with just letting me sit in a corner while I am in pain so if others don't care about me I won't care about other people.