This is why I think that animals are superior to humans

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uzo

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Look, there's sick scum out there. As to saying animals are better than humans; well, that's a very abstract issue and I'd say it's simply that humans are (in general - not counting Jersey Shore) smarter than chihuahuas and ergo have more elaborate tastes when it comes to killing. Most serial killers are more than average Joe's in the brains department, for example.

Now, instead of railing against the universe and being all 'woe!', the better solution is this: find those kids, hang them. Issue resolved.

Now is it irony that I'm proposing capital punishment to resolve this?
 
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I was surprised when I entered this thread that you hadn't posted "'Cause I'm a f*cking idiot" in bold, capital letters. Animals aren't superior to humans in anyway, because humans are animals. And we're also not the worst animals out there. Sorry, but judging an entire species based on the actions of some dicks with a really f*cking twisted sense of humor, is just f*cking stupid. Name an other animal who aid another they haven't even met before, name another species who has specific centres set up to help other species? Ask a lion to help you put a plaster on a cut thumb, then get back to me.
 

Dr Snakeman

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Ironic Pirate said:
Animals aren't better than people. Certain people, definitely.
And this, really, is where this thread should have ended. Short, sweet, and so very, very true.
 

Bakuryukun

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OP have you NEVER seen a cat play with a toy? It's emulating what it would do it's prey, some animals DO torture and play with other animals bodies. This is a fact. It is not solely a human trait and to think so is very naive. I have seen a cat joyfully tear a bird apart.

Comparing Animals and Humans is a very arbitrary practice anyway since we are animals as well. That being said the people in that video are disgusting and I wish the worst for them.
 

LuckyClover95

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That video is sickening. Sorry, but if I could I'd set those kids on fire.
While your points are correct, I'd disagree with you simply because not all humans are like that, and also humans have the quality of selfless charity giving which animals don't.
 

Da Orky Man

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ruben6f said:
I thoroughly agree with you that those kids should be punished as harshly as possible. I see that many others have already posted examples of dolphins, chimps, and other intelligent animals doing similar things, so I won't bore you with more.

However, have any other animals on Earth ever reached the moon? Have they split the atom? Have they created a massive network of networks, allowing the planets population to speak where and whatever they want to? No. Only humans have.

Yes, with intelligence comes cruelty. But with intelligence comes understanding, curiosity, altruism, and, above all else, capability.

For every act of cruelty, there is an act of kindness. Look at those Japanese nuclear technicians who risked their lives to cool down the Fukushima plant. Look at those people who died in the London riots to protect others.

And look at what humanity can achieve when we co-operate. CERN is funded by the EU, and has no military benefits whatsoever, and very little economic benefits either. It's simply knowledge. Knowledge about how the universe works. Knowing for the sake of, well, knowing.

Humanity has achieved many great things. Acts of cruelty hold us back, but civilization woud never have evolved if cruelty outnumbered kindness. Humanity rocks.

That good enough to quote you for?
 

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ruben6f said:
This:

I warn you that the video contains shocking footage that shouldn't be seen by children, the website is in portuguese but all you have to do is play the video, that video says it all.

http://brasiluniversodigital.blogspot.com/2011/07/chocante-18-dois-garotos-ateiam-fogo-em.html


I think that these kids are monsters and should be punished, I also think that animals like the poor dog in the video are superior to humans.

Why?
Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason, animals don't hate and animals don't laugh when they kill someone in a horrible way (hyenas do not laugh just saying), humans on the other hand do these things to animals and other humans.

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured, when animals attack a human they have a reason.


Dolfins are known to kill sharks for no reason what so ever. To the point of hunting down and tracking Sharks for over hours.

That said it's still sick. I just wanted to put that out there.
Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.

I am usually against killing someone as a way to punish said person, I only support death as a punishment in cases like crimes against humanity and animal cruelty (sounds bad I know but again animals>humans).

I think some people will complain if I don't tell them what they should think about so here:

What kind of punishment should these kids receive?
Does my logic make sense?
Should people receive as a punishment death for animal cruelty?

Thanks for reading.


Edit: The video was not filmed in Brasil, it was posted on youtube and downloaded before it got removed.

Another edit: thanks for telling me that about dolphins, I will do some exploring on the internet involving dolphins.
Also I know that humans are animals but humans are racional animals while others are irracional animals (that's what people told me when I was younger).

Yet another edit: don't quote me unless you wrote something good, I dont' want to read walls of text
 

oktalist

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ruben6f said:
Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.
Another thing that only humans do is to avoid being cruel even when it is our instinct to be. Or to be kind even when it is our instinct not to be. It just depends on the human.

It's an anachronism, but it applies here: everything has a reason. Even if it's not a rational one. Whether it's peer pressure (pack mentality) which some animals have, or psychosis, which some animals also have, or something else.
[small](And I shouldn't have to say this, but explanation is not excuse.)[/small]

I don't think you can really say which is better, humans or non-human animals. It implies an a priori objective measure of value which doesn't really exist. You are judging humans and animals using human morality.
 

Nimcha

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Nimcha said:
Ever heard of Ichneumon wasps? They paralyze certain worms and then lay their eggs in them. The worm keeps on going but when the eggs hatch the larvae start eating the worm from the inside. It's not a pretty death.

Now, the thing that sets humans apart from animals (not making us 'better', mind you) is that we classify that as rather cruel while the wasp doesn't know any better.
#that is the thing. So far morality is a human invention. The OP is applying human standards of behaviour to animals.
Exactly. But that still doesn't explain why they would think animals are 'better' in that regard, I mean they don't exactly have many moral virtues.
 

teisjm

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First of all, that video was horrible, and no i wouldn't even piss on those people doing it to put the fire out if they were the ones getting burned.

But as for the rest of the post, have you ever had a cat? if so have you ever seen it drag a mouse into the house?
My cat has done so a few times, where we've had to stop him, cause he will not kill the mouse, but play around with it, damaging it more and more before killing it. Cats, no matter how adorable, and ovely they are, sometimes play with, and torture their prey.

Ferrets, or pissibly some wild counterpart of theirs, is know to sometimes go into some sort of bloodrage, when they enter a chicken farm or soemthing like that, killing all the chickens, despite not remotely beeing able to eat anywhere near all of them.

A few years back, there were news footage of dolphins using another species of smaller dolphin like creatures as balls in the air, for fun, and hits was not trained dolphins, but wild ones.

Read the news close enough in times without much to write about, and you'll hear stories about bigger dogs killing smaller dogs, with no intend of eating what they've slain, you could say that they are mistreated dangarous dogs, that are not right in their heads, but i'd be willing to classify those people in the video as dangerous fucktards, who should be locked up for the safety of their surroundigns as well, without having to pass judgement on every human, just as i don't consider all dogs ferral beasts who will bite and kill whatever they can, due to a some screwed hunting instinct.

And more importantly, compasion and empathy, which would be more or less the moral opposite of the sick behavior displayed by the fucktards in the video is a thing rarely seen in most animals towards other animals not of their species.
You don't see animals feeding other animals, unless they need to like ants using theese smaller bugs i don't know the english name for as cattle, protecting them, but only cause they "milk" them.
You don't see animals giving a fuck about what happened to that dog, apart from maybe beeing scared, I know there was a gorilla who could speak sign language, who had a kitten, and expressed that she felt sad when it died, but this is a rare exception.
You don't see animals caring whetehr their prey dies as quick and painlessly for the sake of the prey, and not just the efficiency of the hunt, just ask the komodo dragons, who bite their prey letting them more or less rot alive over several days, while following the stench.

I know there are exceptions to this, for instance many dogs will fight to the end to protect their humans, and possibly other animals in the familly, and there have been examples of animals of one species adopting animals of other species, i think it was a cat with kittens taking in a baby racoon, or skunk i saw a video of. But overall, these are rare exceptions, not unlike the rare exception of people like those in the video.

I don't think you can look at their lack of "evil" intend, without considering the other side of the medal, which is their lack of "good" intend.
 

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The_White_Crane said:
Humans are animals.
QFT

Innegativeion said:
C. Animals DO fight. A lot. Tons of animals kill for pleasure/sport. Even more animals kill to eat, and in FAR more gruesome ways than how humans raise livestock.
Excuse me, but mauled to death seems much more fulfilling than livestock.
 

strangemoose

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my dog killed a rabbit in my backyard and just through the body around...didnt even eat it he just killed it and played with the dead body...so yeah animals do bad things too for no reason besides entertainment
 

Poster1234

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First of all, yeah, what the kids did was horrible, and I won't try and stand up for people who don't deserve it.

Ok, now, about this thread.
*rant mode on*

WHAT THE HELL ? Animals > humans ? Where did that come from ?
We are the only ones being crual for no reason ? Seriously ? Have you ever seen a cat playing with a mouse ? That,if anything, is the epithomy of crualty. Oh, and what about horses ? Some of the meanest fucktards that ever lived (believe me, personal experience).

On the contrary, we humans always get SOMETHING from our crualty, precisely because we have moral values an are rational beings : even people who do it "for no reason" are simply looking for an easy way to break a major no-no so they can feel something, whether it be guilt and shame or, on the contrary, a feeling of control.

By the way (and I this is a cheap one, but this pissed me off), I'm still waiting for the first animal-written book. Sure it'll be captivating.
 

Pietato

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If there was a dog that could post things on the internet, everyone would be amazed at how smart it was.

And they don't bother to compliment the people who made the internet. Or the computer. Or circuit boards.

Or pornography.
 

SillyBear

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ruben6f said:
Get off the internet then. And while you're at it, stop using any technology. Stop talking to your family, stop talking to your friends, forget all the beautiful memories you have involving humans, stop playing video games, stop reading books, stop listening to music, stop watching film and stop using medicine.

Then get back to me on who is "superior".

You're making a very strange distinction here. You are separating humans from animals, which is nonsense. We are animals, we are just the most intelligent.

And intelligence is the key here. Without intelligence, it's hard to be cruel. If you had the same amount of activity going on in your brain as a dog, you wouldn't even have the capacity to be sadistic. You also wouldn't have the capacity to become a scholar or write music or invent something.

You focus on all the wrong things human do, whilst ignoring all the beautiful things. For every 1 psychopath who is torturing a dog, there are 10 people who are being nice people.

You're having an over emotional gut instinct to a crime and are letting it skewer your perspective. Of course we have the capacity to be crueler than a dog. But we also have the capacity to be nicer.
 

Hosker

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Really? You watch one video, and suddenly "animals are better than humans because all humans are like this"? Really?

And humans are animals.