This is why I think that animals are superior to humans

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rutger5000

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You're wrong. First of all animals do display cruelty, ever seen a cat play with a mouse? Especially if a house cat would do it, it would be very cruel. The cat bloody well knows that it does not need to kill the mouse. Second of all human cruelty is because of our superiority in the intelectual and emotional plane. These grand us tools, which we are unable the handle properly, this results in cruelty and other behaviour. Yes humanity is severly flawed, and yes we will eventually bring up our own destruction. But we're still emotionally and mentally more capable then any other animal.
 

IronicBeet

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Humans have the capacity to be cruel. So do a lot of animals. The only reason that some humans consider it okay for animals to do so is because they consider humans to be on a different level than said animals.

When it comes to that, we're really not. The only difference is that as humans we've established a sense of morality which also causes irrationality, such as believing someone deserves the death penalty for animal cruelty.
 

Knight Captain Kerr

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I belive humans can do great good and we can choose to be better. That video sickened me I couldn't watch it I saw a kid pouring petrol or something on a dog and another with a lighter and knew where it was going. Yes, many humans are monsters but that is a minority. Many of us do great good. The kids should face jail time and a huge fine but I hate the idea of putting anybody to death.

That story about cats was aborable.
 

Twilight_guy

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Most animals don't have higher brain unctions. Higher brain functions are what give people there ability to from complex thoughts like cruelty or love. People like to do a lot of projecting onto animals and giving them traits they don't have. That tends to romanticize animals some and make them seems nicer then they are. Honestly animals aren't "better" they simply act the complexity in biology that people have. If you think being unable to form notions like vengeance or hate make animals better then you follow an ignorance is bliss philosophy. I personally don't. I think being able to hate and instead choosing to love (like by say opening an animal shelter) is far better then simply not knowing what either is.

That said, just because an animal lacks higher brain function does not give anyone the right to act cruelly to them. Animal cruelty deserves to be punished in response to the severity of the actions preformed.
 

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ruben6f said:
BiscuitTrouser said:
ruben6f said:
Youve never given any money time or support to any charitable cause ever? Really? Well maybe you are worse than most people but most people have.
I don't donate because I can't, I am broke and that is my problem, how can I help if I can't do anything?

And don't tell me "spread the message" that is useless, and I am in fact a very bad person, I don't help people and I don't care, because other people have no problem with just letting me sit in a corner while I am in pain so if others don't care about me I won't care about other people.
Im broke and i volunteer in my local village. Pretty selfish attitude. Be happy in your corner. Id rather be sad helping people than be sad in a corner. Dont assume we are all like you. We are not. I find such a notion offensive. Maybe you suck but a shit tonne of people rock. My friends going to africa to help treat eyesight issues by working with a mobile opticians. I guess we just dont need the validation of others to want to care about them. Huh.
 

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ruben6f said:
Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason, animals don't hate and animals don't laugh when they kill someone in a horrible way (hyenas do not laugh just saying), humans on the other hand do these things to animals and other humans.

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured, when animals attack a human they have a reason.

Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.
Only quoting this superior nonsense...

Dolphins torture and murder other sea life for shits and giggles.(Ahh I see someone already told you about this... Leaving it in for the sake of point though..)

The Ghost and the Darkness, while yes it is a movie, is based on real life events where two lions were massacring people for quite honestly they just couldn't give a fuck.

In other news, while on the grand scale animals attack for no reason about as often as humans do. Meaning trying to say animals are superior because of this and other incidents makes no sense. Especially since animals are prone to such fun tendencies such as infanticide for no reason.

Did you not know about the infanticide? Yeah even when animals have an abundance of food and shelter parents will still kill their own young. Lions do it if the cub is preventing them from having sex. While mice kill their own children because hey, why the fuck not. Apes and monkeys will also do the same thing, targeting other children, stealing and eating there skulls.

The Bambi idea of the animal kingdom is just... well wrong. Animals kill and violently fuck one another up for little to no understandable reason. I mean, when was the last time you saw someone take a baby out of someones arms and proceed to eat it's face right in front of the mother?

Hell, if you were to race and rape a woman you would be a horrible vile man. If you were an animal that's cool. If you can overpower it you can fuck it. Law of the jungle man. Goes for dead things to. To quote a wise man "WHY IS THAT LION RAPING THAT DEAD RHINO!"

As for the whole war thing? Animals wage war agaisnt each other quite frequently. Despite the fact working together would yield more they would rather try and wipe the competitor out rather then work with them. How do you wipe the enemy out? Why you murder all their children! Animals just haven't figured out how to make large scale weapons yet.

Trying to claim animals are superior because they don't torture is silly. Namely because if they could understand the concept, they probably would.

Hey, you could say it is our advance head balls that lead to the ability to torture. It's also what gives you the ability to reason that it is wrong. If humans were honestly inferior to animals you wouldn't give that video a second though. Instead your here trying to say the entirety of all human existence is inferior because of a couple of fuck buckets....

Clap. Clap. Clap.
 

yuval152

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Animals can't drink from a cup with their hands.(exepet for monkeys which are an undeveloped verison of us)

and animals also kills other animals for terrioteris and even for fun(dolphins) most shark babies while in their mother's body use canibalisim,the older brother is eating the smaller brothers.
 

ruben6f

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BiscuitTrouser said:
ruben6f said:
BiscuitTrouser said:
ruben6f said:
Youve never given any money time or support to any charitable cause ever? Really? Well maybe you are worse than most people but most people have.
I don't donate because I can't, I am broke and that is my problem, how can I help if I can't do anything?

And don't tell me "spread the message" that is useless, and I am in fact a very bad person, I don't help people and I don't care, because other people have no problem with just letting me sit in a corner while I am in pain so if others don't care about me I won't care about other people.
Im broke and i volunteer in my local village. Pretty selfish attitude. Be happy in your corner. Id rather be sad helping people than be sad in a corner. Dont assume we are all like you. We are not. I find such a notion offensive. Maybe you suck but a shit tonne of people rock. My friends going to africa to help treat eyesight issues by working with a mobile opticians. I guess we just dont need the validation of others to want to care about them. Huh.
I am not sad in my corner because it came to my mind that I don't need other people, people are stupid and I find many "good deeds" useless things, if you don't want the validation of others why are you talking to me, let me live in my corner.
 

Stephen Wo

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The "otherkin" misanthropes who put down humanity as a whole seriously have some issues. Animals don't help the poor in Calcutta, yet there are those who would rather be an instinct based, non-sentient house cat? Even if I have to put the "sins of humanity" on my shoulders, and I don't, because the worst I've done is get in a small fight, I would if I could make sure that I didn't have to be be around these types.

Do I condone the actions of the people in the video? Hell no! Do I think that PETA is completely right? Naw, they ruined a perfectly good family reunion in DC by getting the littlest Chicano to start spouting protest lines in the middle of dinner.
 

Dr Snakeman

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BrassButtons said:
ruben6f said:
I think that these kids are monsters and should be punished
Absolutely agree.

I also think that animals like the poor dog in the video are superior to humans.
I don't torture animals--what is your reasoning that I am inferior to other animals?

Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason
No creature does anything for "no reason"--including the people who tortured that dog. Is torturing a dog because you're psychotic (severe animal cruelty being one of the hallmark signs of psychopathy) any better than murdering infants because you want their mother to go back into heat and have your babies instead (lions), committing rape because its the best way to pass on your genes (dragonflies, some ducks), swarming and killing people because they happened to walk to close to your home (killer bees), killing members of another species on sight because who knows why (dolphins), or eating another creature alive because it's just easier (many many species, but the mice eating an albatross alive is the image that comes to mind currently)?

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured
If the dog had been bitten by a bot fly he wouldn't understand that either. The tarantula doesn't understand why the larva are eating it inside out. The 5 year old in Mozambique doesn't understand why malaria is killing him.

If the victim not understanding is what makes it cruel, then all of nature is cruel.

But tell me: how many animals get outraged when they see a member of another species being mistreated? Hell, how many get outraged when a member of their OWN species is mistreated? How many animals go out of their way to care for members of their species and other species? How many animals ponder the morality of killing for food? How many animals show the same capacity for kindness and generosity that humans have?
POW! You just dropped a knowledge bomb on our asses!

On a more serious note, no, animals are not better than people, for all the reasons that this guy mentioned, plus the fact that people have done some pretty awesome stuff that animals just can't compete with.

We are the human race, bitches. You ain't got nothin' on us.
 

phantasmalWordsmith

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I doubt two shit head children represent the human species and I still hold humanity in high regards; the fact that so many people find the act of those two children as repulsive brings me a lot of hope for humanity.
 

Gearheart

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Thus is the curse of intelligence.

However, the fleeting generalisation you make is really rather profound. Just because a minority of humans are idiots does not mean that all animals are superior to all humans. All humans have potential for good and potential for bad, something which most animals lack. Yes, an animal wouldn't set fire to a human, but an animal would not try to feed a starving homeless person either. Some humans would feed a starving homeless person.

And because of your generalisations, you are telling me that people like Mr. Rogers or Mother Teresa are worse than animals.

Stop flaunting your ignorance, kid. Some people are monsters. Some people are saints. Some people have qualities of both. You can't classify everyone.
 

broodgrillo

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Humans say we are superior to the rest of the animal so we kill them in order to "survive" just because we can
But if an animal kills a person just to eat, they are put down for being savages
I didn't saw the video but i know what it is
I would make them die as slowly and painfully as they did to the dog and everyone who says humans are superior to animals because we have moralle and we are racional are just dumb in my opinion
The world is being destroyed by humans not animals
 

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Jeffrey Crall said:
I think your ignoring the fact that we humans have saved animals, and we didn't get to the top by being submissive minnows... Here's the thing, we're MORE INTELLIGENT. Ergo, we're superior, even in most cases if you include morals. Anyone who denies that animals also fight to be "alpha" or the last animal standing is an idiot.
Oh yeah? Tell me one good reason how polluting the planet (and I am not even necessarily talking about that weak CO2 , I'm talking about legally throwing radioactiv waste into the ocean ),having other people of our kind suffer because it actually might cost us something (le gasp!) and declaring some bimbo playing in a movie more worhty and important than the guy who builds houses or in general makes life the way we are used to possible shows any sign of inteligence?

Or how using my "inteligence " to manipulate a whole nation to do my bidding or even to trick any system that was meant to establish equality for anyone for one's personally greed makes us superior in any way shape or form.

Just because we have the physical possiblity to be in a position to control what happens in the world doesn't mean we are actually made for that position. Else there wouldn't be so much crap going on in the world and yes we are able (and often show that btw) to do good, but what good is that if some person with enough control (-----> enough money) can fuck that up in seconds.

Intelligence is a double edged sword (oh how cliche). While it does empower us with the power of being ghandi himself it can also turn us into massive pricks (I am talking BP massive )

So don't just assume that YOU>everyone else that isn't part of your species just because you have something better than they do; cause you also have something far worse.