The librarian is in the wrong 100% of the way. In fact, the kids determination to read what he wants to does me proud.
This really chives my spuds, and I want your opinion
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My God.Caramel Frappe said:
Why haven't I read this book?
It sounds brilliant!
I think there needs to be an anime, though. It'd be awesome.retyopy said:
OT: I read Ender's Game in third grade, and that was a bad time to read that book.
I understood the plot and stuff, but the imagery just freaked me out sometimes.
I also read Starship Troopers in fifth grade, which at least worked, since I was a lot more mature by then.
I started reading Game of Thrones when I was fourteen, and I'm fifteen now, and I think I'm plenty mature, but I can see that a twelve-year-old might not be.
It's just not that important to me. To you? Clearly. To others here? Yeah. To me? Not really. Oh I enjoy dark and weird movies and stuff, but I guess I'm not really used to holding up a book anymore, what with forums and blog posts and even digitized books so readily available to me. Set me up with some show clips though, I might watch them. I thought it was an anime because it contains those strange story elements that animes always do. What else can I say? By 10 I was not only masturbating to softcore porn but had in fact seen the saiyan and frieza sagas of Dragonball Z, one of the most violent animes I've ever seen. Missing limbs? Yeah, but it also had humans and other things being completely vaporized. In detail. Good times... good times.retyopy said:
All of that being said, librarians have no right to keep kids from sexual or violent reading material unless it's library policy, which it wasn't in this case, so the librarian was just being an asshole.
If the kid picked out the 3rd book of the series he clearly read the others. So the clerk would be protecting him from nothing. I hate how society coddles children so much. That series even has plenty of great child characters dealing a lot difficult and sometimes horrific things that a child might have to deal with in a medieval society; in a way that makes it a good read for kids too.
Well once that series is deemed classic literature it won't be a problem any more.
Well once that series is deemed classic literature it won't be a problem any more.
I understand where she's coming from but if this is a later book in the series it means he's - probably - read the other ones. If any damage was done, it already has been.
I think I'm with the consensus here:
a) Something that chives my spuds should refer to a good thing, though a proper term would be puts the chives on my spuds. Chives and spuds tend to go well together, especially with sour cream.
b) I'm pretty sure that said librarian refusing to let a child check out an adult book was defective and should be sent back to the librarian factory. Every bibliophile and libriphile I know doesn't care if a kid is reading The 120 Days of Sodom [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Chatterley%27s_Lover] or even Loving Little Stepdaughter[footnote]No link but a typical title for classic '70s airport fiction in which publishers paid authors by the page, hence featured crazy amounts of dialog in which each exchange was long enough to break to the next line. During the golden age of porn, underaged, teenage sexual exploration and incest were rampant, though that was all nipped in the eighties lest some poor reader be inspired to rape his or her progeny. Still, heroines of Harlequin romances who were still sweet-sixteen or seventeen would often get ravished, unchecked, by their monosyllabically-named male foils (all, rich, charming, handsome and noble-born, to be sure).[/footnote] because it means the tyke is actually reading in an era when it's far easier to seek out media (explicit or otherwise) that requires less effort to digest. Maybe said librarian simply got the think of the children virus that's been going around making people believe that kids are fragile little creatures who should be kept in suspension domes until they reach majority.
If you're underaged, and refused access to a book by a librarian or a bookseller, I'd suggest hunt down something from it also includes (and advocates) rape, murder, genocide, slavery [http://www.ala.org/ala/issuesadvocacy/banned/frequentlychallenged/21stcenturychallenged/index.cfm#2010], et. al. usually getting a free pass because it's sacred to popular faiths.
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a) Something that chives my spuds should refer to a good thing, though a proper term would be puts the chives on my spuds. Chives and spuds tend to go well together, especially with sour cream.
b) I'm pretty sure that said librarian refusing to let a child check out an adult book was defective and should be sent back to the librarian factory. Every bibliophile and libriphile I know doesn't care if a kid is reading The 120 Days of Sodom [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Chatterley%27s_Lover] or even Loving Little Stepdaughter[footnote]No link but a typical title for classic '70s airport fiction in which publishers paid authors by the page, hence featured crazy amounts of dialog in which each exchange was long enough to break to the next line. During the golden age of porn, underaged, teenage sexual exploration and incest were rampant, though that was all nipped in the eighties lest some poor reader be inspired to rape his or her progeny. Still, heroines of Harlequin romances who were still sweet-sixteen or seventeen would often get ravished, unchecked, by their monosyllabically-named male foils (all, rich, charming, handsome and noble-born, to be sure).[/footnote] because it means the tyke is actually reading in an era when it's far easier to seek out media (explicit or otherwise) that requires less effort to digest. Maybe said librarian simply got the think of the children virus that's been going around making people believe that kids are fragile little creatures who should be kept in suspension domes until they reach majority.
If you're underaged, and refused access to a book by a librarian or a bookseller, I'd suggest hunt down something from it also includes (and advocates) rape, murder, genocide, slavery [http://www.ala.org/ala/issuesadvocacy/banned/frequentlychallenged/21stcenturychallenged/index.cfm#2010], et. al. usually getting a free pass because it's sacred to popular faiths.
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If it wasn't library policy, she had no right to give him a hard time. But are you sure it wasn't. Most libraries I've ever been in have policies about age-appropriate material. (hell if I know exactly how it works, I just know because I asked why I had to put my age, and sometimes even show my id, to get a library card.
I don't know how I'm supposed to give an opinion involving a book I've never heard of in a series I've barely even heard of with no description given.
spuds n chives sounds like a good mix..oven roasted..with butter
on a side note let him read it, kids that age reading actual books when they're not forced to are becoming a minority and should be encouraged imo (least to me it looks like they're a minority nowadays)
on a side note let him read it, kids that age reading actual books when they're not forced to are becoming a minority and should be encouraged imo (least to me it looks like they're a minority nowadays)
I do think we are to protective of kids but they do need some protection and it's really hard to say where the line should be. The solution let the parents decide, make so that all questionable material is out of reach until their parent grabs it for them, I think it's probably the best way. I never read those books myself but I do know that I've read books I wouldn't want a 11 year old to read. I'm gonna side with the librarian.
I had a similar experience when I was thirteen. I tried to check out Eric Van Lustbader's Ring of Five Thousand Dragons, but was swiftly taken to the kids section and recommended Eragon. Silly, silly old women... Luckily my mother came in soon after and got it for me.
Not having read the books, I can't say, but there are some things I've read at a young age I wish I hadn't.
My High School Library had, for some reason, a book entitled "Deliver us from Evil", about an infamous serial killer of prostitues, that delved into the dark side of British society. Including sex, so us teenagers wanted to look at those bits, even if they were about child prostitution and so on.
My High School Library had, for some reason, a book entitled "Deliver us from Evil", about an infamous serial killer of prostitues, that delved into the dark side of British society. Including sex, so us teenagers wanted to look at those bits, even if they were about child prostitution and so on.
NO man (or woman) should be denied the right to read a book (or any other form of media) based on age (or anything else, beside perhaps money, since most of us live in capitalist societies). To deny a fellow person the truth (or art, examination of ideas, expression, etc. ) is monstrous. So, the librarian is wrong.