This thread is being derailed into super serial territory!
Derailing a thread mocking racism?
THAT'S SO RACIST!
Derailing a thread mocking racism?
THAT'S SO RACIST!
this is awesome, i watched that show as a kid, and LOVED it!Daystar Clarion said:Love thisCODE-D said:I actually like funny racism.
Watch the baseball episode of samurai champloo if your a white american.
'This is perfectly good moment to throw your life away!'
I'll go away. Sorry for ruining your really funny racism thread by bringing the perspective of a minority in. I'll be quiet, massa. Let me just end with this: Prejudice by itself does not constitute racism. Neither does power by itself. But when people use their position of power, be it political or institutional, to reinforce their prejudices and to enforce them so that as a result of their racial prejudices the life chances, rights and opportunities of others are limited, the result is racism. Thus, the simplest definition of racism then is: racism is prejudice plus power. On the basis of this definition, while all people can be prejudiced, only those who have power are really racist. African Americans, Latinos, Asians and American Indians--the powerless in American society--can be and often are most prejudiced toward Whites on an individual basis, but they are not racists at the structural, institutional level. Within this understanding of racism, to be a racist you have to possess two things: 1) socioeconomic power to force others to do what you desire even if they don't want to, and 2), the justification of this power abuse by an ideology of biological supremacy. Keep in mind that what often is described as racism in society today, is really nothing more than prejudice and discrimination. While a Black or Latino person, through the use of a gun and/or intimidation, can force a White person to do as he, as an individual, desires, this is an individual act of aggression, not a socially structured power arrangement. At present, however, only Whites have that kind of power, reinforced by a belief in an ideology of supremacy, both of which constitute the basis of racism in America today.Chairman Miaow said:Please, go away, you are just ruining this thread for everybody. If you don't like the discussion, don't join in. We think we are not being racist. You think we are. It is obvious nobody is changing their minds, so don't waste your time and derail the thread while you are at it. If anything I have said now or previously has caused harm, I will gladly apologise for it, and the last thing I want, is to cause harm. If you want to have a discussion about the definitions of race and racism, go start your own thread, although it will no doubt descend into flame wars in seconds.ratzofftoya said:Sorry, I didn't mean to give that impression. In the instance you mentioned, prejudice (based on race) is being levied against a disempowered community. It is, therefore, racism. The instance where it wouldn't be "racism" is a Mexican mafioso ordering a hit against white people because of their race. Though it WOULD be prejudiced, and it WOULD unquestionably be a shitty, horrible thing to do.Helmholtz Watson said:Its inaccurate because you seem to be under the false idea that racism involves a White person inflicting some form of harm towards a "person of color" purely because of the "person of colors" skin color/bone structure. Its not. When the Mexican mafia orders for their member to target innocent Black people, that is racism despite there being no White people involved.ratzofftoya said:I gave you the definition of racism. You have it. Can you explain to me how it's inaccurate?
I'm Italian, and that's offensive.NiPah said:
Quick poll, is this video racist towards Japanese or Black people?
Because it wouldn't be. I can't think of even a remotely good reason why it wouldn't be, but it wouldn't dammit!Helmholtz Watson said:Why wouldn't it be racist if the Mexican mafia ordered there members to kill White people?ratzofftoya said:Sorry, I didn't mean to give that impression. In the instance you mentioned, prejudice (based on race) is being levied against a disempowered community. It is, therefore, racism. The instance where it wouldn't be "racism" is a Mexican mafioso ordering a hit against white people because of their race. Though it WOULD be prejudiced, and it WOULD unquestionably be a shitty, horrible thing to do.Helmholtz Watson said:Its inaccurate because you seem to be under the false idea that racism involves a White person inflicting some form of harm towards a "person of color" purely because of the "person of colors" skin color/bone structure. Its not. When the Mexican mafia orders for their member to target innocent Black people, that is racism despite there being no White people involved.ratzofftoya said:I gave you the definition of racism. You have it. Can you explain to me how it's inaccurate?
We can rebuild it.Fiz_The_Toaster said:There once was a funny thread here....
....and now it's gone.
Also this:
I think you mean that a minority can't created a discriminating society against a majority because they don't have the power by definition of being the minority. Like white people are privileged while minorities don't share those privileges and we have those privileges by virtue of being the majority. However you could still be a minority and be racist towards whites, you may not have power but you could still hold and act on bigoted beliefs towards white people.ratzofftoya said:I'll go away. Sorry for ruining your really funny racism thread by bringing the perspective of a minority in. I'll be quiet, massa. Let me just end with this: Prejudice by itself does not constitute racism. Neither does power by itself. But when people use their position of power, be it political or institutional, to reinforce their prejudices and to enforce them so that as a result of their racial prejudices the life chances, rights and opportunities of others are limited, the result is racism. Thus, the simplest definition of racism then is: racism is prejudice plus power. On the basis of this definition, while all people can be prejudiced, only those who have power are really racist. African Americans, Latinos, Asians and American Indians--the powerless in American society--can be and often are most prejudiced toward Whites on an individual basis, but they are not racists at the structural, institutional level. Within this understanding of racism, to be a racist you have to possess two things: 1) socioeconomic power to force others to do what you desire even if they don't want to, and 2), the justification of this power abuse by an ideology of biological supremacy. Keep in mind that what often is described as racism in society today, is really nothing more than prejudice and discrimination. While a Black or Latino person, through the use of a gun and/or intimidation, can force a White person to do as he, as an individual, desires, this is an individual act of aggression, not a socially structured power arrangement. At present, however, only Whites have that kind of power, reinforced by a belief in an ideology of supremacy, both of which constitute the basis of racism in America today.Chairman Miaow said:Please, go away, you are just ruining this thread for everybody. If you don't like the discussion, don't join in. We think we are not being racist. You think we are. It is obvious nobody is changing their minds, so don't waste your time and derail the thread while you are at it. If anything I have said now or previously has caused harm, I will gladly apologise for it, and the last thing I want, is to cause harm. If you want to have a discussion about the definitions of race and racism, go start your own thread, although it will no doubt descend into flame wars in seconds.ratzofftoya said:Sorry, I didn't mean to give that impression. In the instance you mentioned, prejudice (based on race) is being levied against a disempowered community. It is, therefore, racism. The instance where it wouldn't be "racism" is a Mexican mafioso ordering a hit against white people because of their race. Though it WOULD be prejudiced, and it WOULD unquestionably be a shitty, horrible thing to do.Helmholtz Watson said:Its inaccurate because you seem to be under the false idea that racism involves a White person inflicting some form of harm towards a "person of color" purely because of the "person of colors" skin color/bone structure. Its not. When the Mexican mafia orders for their member to target innocent Black people, that is racism despite there being no White people involved.ratzofftoya said:I gave you the definition of racism. You have it. Can you explain to me how it's inaccurate?
PoC (people of color) can?t be racist, because they don?t have any reinforcement from that institutionalized power. We may hold individual racist ideas and thoughts, but we only have the power to do damage with our actions in the rare, brief contexts where our other privileges temporarily override color privilege. A relative of mine may say racist things about black or white people in her own home, but when she engages with the wider world, as she must do daily, she?s just another brown girl, and is therefore at risk.
Your definition of racism is completely irrelevant and your rudeness is unwelcome. I asked as politely as I could if you would leave and even said I would apologise if I had said something hurtful.ratzofftoya said:I'll go away. Sorry for ruining your really funny racism thread by bringing the perspective of a minority in. I'll be quiet, massa. Let me just end with this: Prejudice by itself does not constitute racism. Neither does power by itself. But when people use their position of power, be it political or institutional, to reinforce their prejudices and to enforce them so that as a result of their racial prejudices the life chances, rights and opportunities of others are limited, the result is racism. Thus, the simplest definition of racism then is: racism is prejudice plus power. On the basis of this definition, while all people can be prejudiced, only those who have power are really racist. African Americans, Latinos, Asians and American Indians--the powerless in American society--can be and often are most prejudiced toward Whites on an individual basis, but they are not racists at the structural, institutional level. Within this understanding of racism, to be a racist you have to possess two things: 1) socioeconomic power to force others to do what you desire even if they don't want to, and 2), the justification of this power abuse by an ideology of biological supremacy. Keep in mind that what often is described as racism in society today, is really nothing more than prejudice and discrimination. While a Black or Latino person, through the use of a gun and/or intimidation, can force a White person to do as he, as an individual, desires, this is an individual act of aggression, not a socially structured power arrangement. At present, however, only Whites have that kind of power, reinforced by a belief in an ideology of supremacy, both of which constitute the basis of racism in America today.Chairman Miaow said:Please, go away, you are just ruining this thread for everybody. If you don't like the discussion, don't join in. We think we are not being racist. You think we are. It is obvious nobody is changing their minds, so don't waste your time and derail the thread while you are at it. If anything I have said now or previously has caused harm, I will gladly apologise for it, and the last thing I want, is to cause harm. If you want to have a discussion about the definitions of race and racism, go start your own thread, although it will no doubt descend into flame wars in seconds.ratzofftoya said:Sorry, I didn't mean to give that impression. In the instance you mentioned, prejudice (based on race) is being levied against a disempowered community. It is, therefore, racism. The instance where it wouldn't be "racism" is a Mexican mafioso ordering a hit against white people because of their race. Though it WOULD be prejudiced, and it WOULD unquestionably be a shitty, horrible thing to do.Helmholtz Watson said:Its inaccurate because you seem to be under the false idea that racism involves a White person inflicting some form of harm towards a "person of color" purely because of the "person of colors" skin color/bone structure. Its not. When the Mexican mafia orders for their member to target innocent Black people, that is racism despite there being no White people involved.ratzofftoya said:I gave you the definition of racism. You have it. Can you explain to me how it's inaccurate?
PoC (people of color) can?t be racist, because they don?t have any reinforcement from that institutionalized power. We may hold individual racist ideas and thoughts, but we only have the power to do damage with our actions in the rare, brief contexts where our other privileges temporarily override color privilege. A relative of mine may say racist things about black or white people in her own home, but when she engages with the wider world, as she must do daily, she?s just another brown girl, and is therefore at risk.
Yes, YES!Daystar Clarion said:We can rebuild it.Fiz_The_Toaster said:Snip!
We have the technology.
[sub]But I don't want to spend a lot of money...[/sub]
What racism?ratzofftoya said:So you are, I assume, a person of color who can identify and speak on behalf of all other persons of color and victims of racism to determine precisely what has the capacity to hurt and offend?Hazy992 said:ratzofftoya said:snip![]()
This thread isn't 'hey guize let's all be teh racists OLOLOLOLOL' it's about mocking racism. If you mock it and laugh at how stupid it is then it takes away racist's ammunition to hurt and offend'. That's the point of the thread, so just chill out.
As someone who has been the victim of racism, I don't think it's funny to dredge up old stories just to laugh at them. I don't think they're funny, and I especially don't think white people should "mock" them as if they are innocent of any racism or prejudice. So cut it out.
I'm a ManBearPig and I find this offensiveTheRightToArmBears said:This thread is being derailed into super serial territory!
Derailing a thread mocking racism?
THAT'S SO RACIST!
One can only hope that Antoine Dodson becomes their leader.Daystar Clarion said:That's awfulVidiot421 said:Well, I don't think I can top most, if any of the posts in here, however my friend works in a major supermarket in an "urban" area(which shall remain unnamed). On the first day of the month is usually when people get their welfare/food stamps. This supermarket puts large bins of watermelon lining the walls near the entrance, and they are constantly in need of being restocked. This store also does anywhere from 25-50% more business on the first few days of the month.
I for one, welcome our new black homosexual stilted atheist overlords.Simonoly said:Racism, like homophobia, is so ridiculous that I can't help but laugh. And this thread has introduced me to some superb videos.
I look forward to the day when the world is ruled by black gay atheists on stilts. I fucking love stilts.
Also, racist!
I'm a minority and you don't speak for me. Your taking this thread way too serious.ratzofftoya said:I'll go away. Sorry for ruining your really funny racism thread by bringing the perspective of a minority in.
Great, so go to the Nation of Islam and tell them how they are racist. Nobody here has any power.ratzofftoya said:I'll be quiet, massa. Let me just end with this: Prejudice by itself does not constitute racism. Neither does power by itself. But when people use their position of power, be it political or institutional, to reinforce their prejudices and to enforce them so that as a result of their racial prejudices the life chances, rights and opportunities of others are limited, the result is racism. Thus, the simplest definition of racism then is: racism is prejudice plus power.
How nice of you to create a loophole for minorities to be racist by arguing semantics on the definition of racism.ratzofftoya said:On the basis of this definition, while all people can be prejudiced, only those who have power are really racist.
No, they are racist if they have "prejudice" views towards Whites. Also, way to forget about Middle-Eastern Americans.ratzofftoya said:African Americans, Latinos, Asians and American Indians--the powerless in American society--can be and often are most prejudiced toward Whites on an individual basis, but they are not racists at the structural, institutional level.
And I don't agree with your manipulative definition of racism.ratzofftoya said:Within this understanding of racism, to be a racist you have to possess two things: 1) socioeconomic power to force others to do what you desire even if they don't want to, and 2), the justification of this power abuse by an ideology of biological supremacy.
No its racism.ratzofftoya said:Keep in mind that what often is described as racism in society today, is really nothing more than prejudice and discrimination.
Black and Lation Americans can still be racist, regardless of your flawed definition of racism.ratzofftoya said:While a Black or Latino person, through the use of a gun and/or intimidation, can force a White person to do as he, as an individual, desires, this is an individual act of aggression, not a socially structured power arrangement. At present, however, only Whites have that kind of power, reinforced by a belief in an ideology of supremacy, both of which constitute the basis of racism in America today.
You can keep using that flawed definition but it doesn't mean that its right.ratzofftoya said:PoC (people of color) can?t be racist, because they don?t have any reinforcement from that institutionalized power.
Now your contradicting yourself. You just said that POC can't be racist.ratzofftoya said:We may hold individual racist ideas and thoughts, but we only have the power to do damage with our actions in the rare, brief contexts where our other privileges temporarily override color privilege.
She is still a racist, regardless of her skin color.ratzofftoya said:A relative of mine may say racist things about black or white people in her own home, but when she engages with the wider world, as she must do daily, she?s just another brown girl, and is therefore at risk.
Nobody cares about manbearpig.Hazy992 said:I'm a ManBearPig and I find this offensiveTheRightToArmBears said:This thread is being derailed into super serial territory!
Derailing a thread mocking racism?
THAT'S SO RACIST!
I'm offensive and I find this ManBearPig!Daystar Clarion said:Nobody cares about manbearpig.Hazy992 said:I'm a ManBearPig and I find this offensiveTheRightToArmBears said:This thread is being derailed into super serial territory!
Derailing a thread mocking racism?
THAT'S SO RACIST!
Racist!
What a twist!Hazy992 said:I'm offensive and I find this ManBearPig!Daystar Clarion said:Nobody cares about manbearpig.Hazy992 said:I'm a ManBearPig and I find this offensiveTheRightToArmBears said:This thread is being derailed into super serial territory!
Derailing a thread mocking racism?
THAT'S SO RACIST!
Racist!
Daystar Clarion said:What a twist!Hazy992 said:I'm offensive and I find this ManBearPig!Daystar Clarion said:Nobody cares about manbearpig.Hazy992 said:I'm a ManBearPig and I find this offensiveTheRightToArmBears said:This thread is being derailed into super serial territory!
Derailing a thread mocking racism?
THAT'S SO RACIST!
Racist!
Twists? Racist!