Thoughts about Pokemon and Discovery

[Saelune]

Ironically, my most hated Pokemon, Trubbish, came from my favorite Gen, 5. I like a coherent thought out, consistent world. I think literal trash as a pokemon is a disturbing thought. Think about stuff you threw away, gross. I would never hug it or love it if it was real.

You mean like Grimer, the toxic sludge pile? Or maybe Koffing, the floating bag of poison gas?

Let me know when medical waste and condoms are added to their design.

A: That's not an explicit part of Trubbish.

B: How do you know that's not in Grimer already? They never explicit mention what's in it, but apparently it's really nasty.

I dont want condoms and syringes to be Pokemon. If Grimer has them canonically, then I am against it too But until then, I am fine with a blob of goo than I am with literally anything you put into a bag.

Can you demonstrate that Trubbish has condoms and syringes in it?

Its...garbage, come to life. It can literally be anything. If you can put it into a trash bag, it apparently can be a Pokemon.

Assuming that condoms and drug syringes exist in pokemon in the first place, or are capable of supporting Trubbish biology.
But lets assume you're right. A garbage bag is still less cuddly than a creature described as "a living biohazard, leaking toxins that instantly kill all plant life it touches. Even it being in close proximity to plants will cause them to wilt and die. Extreme caution is advised in avoiding any contact with this Pok?mon, as an accidental brush up can lead to severe sickness. The effects of this Pok?mon can leave the landscape barren for three years. In dirty residential areas where people throw trash into the streets, it is almost certain to appear. It will readily consume nearly any waste or refuse generated by people and Pok?mon alike."

Oh hey, looks like Muk and Grimer have condoms and syringes in them as well.

And goats eat garbage too? I probably wouldnt hug a Muk either really though.

But literally the garbage IS the Pokemon, and thats a stupid idea for a Pokemon. I dont see why Trubbish is so important for you to defend.

Because I see all the complaints about later gen pokemon designs as unfounded, especially when compared to gen 1, with such jems as...

A group of eggs.
A pile of goo.
A bigger pile of goo.
A pile of different goo.
A metal ball with magnets on it.
A pokeball.
A bigger, now upside down pokeball.
A ball with leaves or a flower on it.
A ball that emits clouds of gas.
A ball surrounded by an aura of gas.


I have my favorites from the gen, but it has an awful lot of balls and goo in it.
Seriously, Trubbish is not that bad. You complain about not wanting pokemon made of condoms and syringes and how a pokemon made of garbage is a dumb idea while ignoring the similar complaints of the pile of toxic industrial waste that kills everything it touches.

Trubbish IS LITERALLY GARBAGE!

Yes, I'm aware. I don't mind.

Well I do.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

I think we can all agree that Pokemon made out of trash piles, industrial waste, and greenhouse gases aren't very huggable.

I'll take them as Pokemon over the living ice cream cone.

 

[JoJo]

If you're interested in the discovery aspect, as I am, then it's fairly easy to avoid information beforehand. That's been my policy for the last three generations, and I've never regretted it. You naturally can't avoid seeing the starters or a few others if you're active in the gaming sphere of the Internet, but you can avoid most with a bit of careful browsing. Crabrawler, Mimikyu, Golisopod and Type Null are my favourite surprises so far, though I'm only half-way through the third island so I expect I'm not done yet.

 

[CaitSeith]

I think it can be detrimental to the enjoyment of games that you're interested in. But you can choose to avoid the info. If others like to spoil it for themselves and to plan every step before the game is even released, so be it. Live and let die live.

 

[Elijin]

Question: You know you don't have to scour the internet for spoilers and strategies and wikis and break downs and such, right? Its a choice. I actually knew more about the original Red/Blue games going in than I did going into the latest game, and that was pre-internet (well, contextually).

 

[ManutheBloodedge]

Question: You know you don't have to scour the internet for spoilers and strategies and wikis and break downs and such, right? Its a choice. I actually knew more about the original Red/Blue games going in than I did going into the latest game, and that was pre-internet (well, contextually).

Well yes. My point was that more people do it nowadays than before, and this is part of the reason why they don't enjoy games as much as before.
Of course I know you can avoid information before release, I just wanted to know if people agree that knowing too much of a game beforehand can be detrimental to its enjoyment. Pokemon just seemed like the best example. In Hindsight, I really should have thought about the fact that genwars break out rather easily.