Thoughts/feedback on Star Ocean I&F?

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FrozenLaughs

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So I've been playing a lot of Rogue Galaxy since I got it on sale a few weeks back (being a big fan of the Dark Clouds but never getting to play RG) and the more I got into it, the more and more it's reminded me of the old Star Oceans. Now I haven't played a Star Ocean since... 3? PS2... Til the End of Time? Does that sound right? Anyways, bumping around on the PSN I see Integrity & Faithlessness (typical stupid Squenix title) on sale and I didn't even know that it was a thing. So anyone who's played it:

Is it worth $23? (I have to decide by Tuesday)
Is it full of the typical Squenix writing? Unintelligible story nonsense, asshat characters, etc.?
Is it similar enough to Rogue Galaxy and the older Star Oceans that If I like one I should like the other?

Otherwise, typical game discussion. I'd rather read real feedback than a bunch of dodgy game journalism.
 

Sen Adara Gar

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I haven't played Integrity and Faithlessness, after The Last Hope I've been rather angry. The battle system was still pretty good, but the writing took a nosedive down to below terrible Star Trek fan-fiction. I won't be getting I&F, even for curiosities sake, as The Last Hope literally killed all of my love for the franchise.
 

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It tried to innovate where no innovation was necessary, to mixed results, but ultimately everything came up lacking.

The combat is the best part of it, and to be fair it's a lot of fun, but the camera is horrid and nausea inducing.

One of the experiments they tried that definitely didn't work out was how they handled cutscenes. Basically, there is no break in the game when you have an important conversation, you can still control your character, and the camera remains where it had been while you explored the city as the cutscene dialogue plays out. I kiiiiinda see what they were trying for, here, but whatever ultimate goal they were going for, I can tell you it failed here. As a result of how this works, not only do important events and conversations lack gravitas due to feeling like any other NPC conversation, but you're liable to actively miss important dialogue if you didn't know ahead of time that this was how the game was going to do things, since you'd assume you could freely roam, and the volume of the talking person varies based on how far away they are.

The story is okay. nothing I found objectionable or praiseworthy. Unlike past installments of the series, where the narrative focuses on a spacefarer interacting with primitive civilizations, in this game you play a member of a primitive civilization who happens to encounter said spacefarers. The world and its politics is interesting enough, though I was unimpressed with the lack of space travel and other planets to explore. What little of the sci-fi there was, it largely felt tacked-on and superfluous... which, I know could be said of SO3, but at least there the game dedicated a third of its runtime to stuff happening elsewhere. Here, you mostly just travel in relation to one member of your party, and exploration is pretty limited.

Honestly, though, I'd have been willing to overlook a lot of the small things that bother me if it weren't for the one utter dealbreaker that sealed the game's fate of being subpar, for me: it is SHORT. I don't mean that in the "well, I mean, if you blitz through the story elements you can beat it in 20 hours" way, like how detractors of FFXV try to claim that THAT game is short, I mean that, all extras included, don't expect to be playing the game more than 25 hours. I wouldn't be surprised if a bare-bones playthrough could be completed in 10 hours or less. I don't know if it was a budgeting issue or a deadline issue, but everything about the conclusion feels rushed and unsatisfying.

Definitely a 4/10 for me. Small hints of promise bogged down several small but cloying annoyances and a horrid run time. I recommend fans of Star Ocean, or JRPGs in general play it at some point, sure, but I wouldn't pay more than 20 bucks for it.
 

meiam

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Have you ever played the first one? There's a fan translation of it available and it's definitely more interesting than the recent additions.

Otherwise if you just want sci fi JRPG there's always xenosaga. If it's more the action RPG side there's always the tales of.

What I'm trying to say is, there are other options definitely worth considering...