crazygameguy4ever said:
I wanna see Korra go avatar on the Kuvira's army and wipe them out at some point..
I don't think that's going to happen. The creators have stated Kuvira is very much like Korra pre-Book 3, which is actually part of the reason we saw Korra confront another version of herself, the Avatar State possibly real, possibly hallucinatory her, while going on her journey. Obviously, that had to do with her problems in recovering, but I think there's a very good chance it will also tie into facing Kuvira. This Book will show how Korra handles dealing with a mentality she has moved past when it's not her anymore, but someone else trying to "help" even if her "help" comes off a power hungry, well, assholeness. They have already set up in this episode how Korra DOESN'T want to resolve this with a physical fight. Korra may be forced into such a situation, but she's not going to the extremes you're hoping for most likely no matter how hard she is pushed. Even if she does go to those extremes, it will probably be with a reluctantly sad attitude rather than with the attitude I am assuming you're hoping she will have. That's not to say there isn't a chance, but the story that has unfolded so far and the creators' statements so far make me think otherwise.
Keoul said:
to just take on the "You're either with us or against us" mentality seems so childish, and really harsh considering they're dating
The Zhu Li betrayal seemed kinda weird, I dunno. I just thought that after sticking with Varrick for so long that betrayal wasn't even a possibility. Some people are speculating that she's just doing this to stick with Varrick (since the other option is to go to a "re-education" camp) but I never took the writers for people wrote that kinda thing.
I'm still interested I guess but less so. My interest in the season peaked when Toph showed up, now that it's clear her appearance was more of a cameo than some important part of the story, I'm not as interested.
It could be one of those "They sort of unofficially broke up, unspoken but implied" deals or "Our relationship is on hold till you do the right thing" or something along those lines. If that is the case I still agree though. Upon first reuniting with Bolin, back in that town, when Opal did this I thought she wasn't so unreasonable though I know others were complaining. She made her case known and, while a little too upset with him, I thought it was more reasonable. She let her emotions go too far, sure, but I've seen far worse examples of characters overreacting to people they know are good people on the wrong side. At this point it is a little excessive, I admit and it's all just to remind us of family/friends/loved ones rift theme going. We have enough of that with other characters. She can be a little more mellow. It didn't bother me as much as it sounds like it did you, but with Bolin's attempt to desert Kuvira I think we can safely say she won't act like that anymore.
Yeah, I figured Zhu Li was the kind of person to put up with abuse and stick devotedly no matter how tough it gets, kind of like how Harley Quinn always comes back to the Joker, except she isn't as crazy as Harley and isn't romantically involved with Varrick. Well, in the case of the latter that is...at least for now...I shouldn't have said that. NO! Not more love trianges/squares! http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/). Of course, there is always the possibility that this is an elaborate plan to save Varrick, but I'm not too keen on that happening. It'd also be kind of a cheat to have her look away, upset, during the fight when Varrick made his ungrateful comments only for her to come back to him as if she was red herring herself as well. Cognitive dissonance much?
So, I'm confused. I know I'm not the OP, but I'm still curious. Are you liking this Book/season or not? You say you're still interested, but less so, which is understandable. I mean, we really do need more Toph even with how slim a chance there is of her showing up again in any significant capacity. There is no such thing as too much Toph. However, I can't tell if you're interested in a kind of lackluster way or interested in a enjoying but disappointed way or interested in a not enjoying but hoping for improvement way.
OT: I personally thought this episode was pretty damn good, not enough Toph notwithstanding. To me, it just seems from the beginning of Book 3 onward this show has really found its footing. I know others disagree and I can respect that. Heck, I've come across people in forums and among my friends who thought Book 2 was the peak and Book 3 was awful. It's actually really interesting to hear the spectrum of perspectives for people in that boat though, in the case of 1 of my friends, his reasoning was really bizarre, but at least he thought Book 3 was just as good as Book 2. Believe it or not, that kind of cancelled out the bizareness of the rest of his reasoning. I won't go into what made his reasoning bizarre because that would detract too much and it's kind of hard to explain. That's just 1 example of course. There are other people who thought all past 3 Books were terrible and, well, there's a range of opinions in regards to dislike towards any aspect of this show. It's just interesting to me. I love getting into civil disagreements with people. I just wish it could happen more often rather than these things devolving into petty arguments and insults like they so often do, not that I am not responsible for a few of those myself. Sigh. Getting off track, so anyway...
I was kind of hoping for Korra to request to stop by the fish market guy's stand again, so she could help him out, regain some self-confidence, give us some nice awesomeness retribution to reintroduce her post-recovering ability, things like that. Sure, it'd be kind of like a filler scene, but it'd be a nice touch though I suppose it could have turned out kind of forced at the same time. Then again, he might see her with short hair and be all like, "WOW! Let me take another pic of you! I've never had a picture of an Avatar who has changed physical appearance in some way...though I guess, only going one Avatar back can only get you so far". Or, something like that. It'd be kind of funny. Knowing the creators I thought they would jump at something like that. From what little I've seen of their tumblr posts they seem to get really excited over character designs that have changed due to age, haircuts, things like that.
Now that we have found out more about Kuvira's backstory I do find it all the odder that she is the way she is. When she left Zaofu a few years ago she didn't act all that far off from how she is now. It's a little off putting especially now that we know she was more than a security force captain, but Su's protege, a kind of daughter to her. Proteges and kids rebel against their trainers and parents, but they don't go that extreme without a rift being created beforehand or having some outside force influence them or something along those lines. Maybe we'll find out her views were being twisted to the extreme by a Red Lotus member after Zaheer was sent back to prison though that would probably end up being cliche. I just expected to find out she evolved more into how she is now and become someone we were supposed to sympathize with like all the other Book's villains so far. Instead, it seems like she always leaned towards this a bit. Actually, her odd name reveal in Book 3 (I say name reveal because, while she wasn't yet named, she was seen ordering for the release of the Avatar from the latter's kidnappers back in Zaofu. In fact, she was also mentioned in an article of a newspaper that, I believe, Lin was reading) made me think she was a kinder, more mellow character though, to be fair, there's only so much you can gather from such a short focus. What was it? A few seconds of focus? Even though the oddness of the reveal made it obvious she was being set up for something, I didn't expect it to be quite along the lines of how she currently is. It still is just barely believable enough for me to excuse how strange it is, but it's off putting nonetheless.
There's not much else I didn't like really. I do kind of like how it doesn't seem they're setting up a brother vs brother dynamic like others predicted they might. If they had gone that route it probably would have been either cliche or forced. With Korra in Zaofu and Bolin about to be sent away from Zaofu to experience Kuvira's overbearing assertiveness firsthand, we might get a more interesting thing going especially if Korra catches Bolin being sent off before he is sent off. That might not make Korra get physically aggressive with Kuvira's forces. It will most certainly tick her off though and that will be pretty entertaining to see from a character who hasn't been that aggressive since mediocre Book 2, Wan, Tenzin family sideplot, and exploring more about the Spirit World notwithstanding.
All in all, if this Book continues on as it has I think it will be a fine way to end the series, but that's just me.
