Tideland, or, Terry Gilliam needs a friggin' hug.

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RentCavalier

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I've noticed my past number of reviews have been fairly positively slanted. This changes NOW.
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I consider myself a man of culture and taste. I enjoy a good film. I enjoy an ARTSY film. Surreal objectivist journeys through the human subconscious as a metaphor for a broken heart? I eat that shit UP. And as surreal auteur filmmakers go, you can't go wrong with Terry Gilliam. He made Brazil, 12 Monkeys, Baron Munchhausen, Time Bandits--the man is legit, makes great, original, imaginative films that inspire and excite and above all entertain. So when I hear of Tideland--the movie he made the Brothers Grimm (which sucked mostly) to make--and that it's his big crowning opus, I dedicated myself to hunting it down and watching it. Finding it on a bargain bin in my local record store, I snatched it up, forgot about it for three months, and finally watched it two nights ago, expecting a wild ride through a twisted mindscape of a genius.

What I GOT was an overwrought, overblown, self-indulgent, discomforting and disgusting piece of shit.

The story follows Jeliza-Rose (who reminds us of her abysmal name every ten seconds), a spirited and upbeat child who just happens to have the most broken family life known to man. Raised by a washed-up rockstar (Jeff Bridges, being awesome) and an abusive, chain-smoking caricature of a mother, Jeliza spends her days helping daddy tie off for his daily heroin, cooking, cleaning, and having long, spirited conversations with the severed heads of her toy dolls, all of whom have names and personalities. When her mom dies from a drug overdose, she and her dad ride off into the sunset to avoid the cops.

Inspired by daddy's drug fantasies of the magical realm of Jutland (Holland, basically), they end up in the abandoned home of daddy's mother (I think), where horrible things continue to happen. Jeliza-Rose ends up abandoned and alone, and proceeds to go completely insane. The plot stops here--the rest of the movie plays out in a series of increasingly fucked up imagery that guarantees to depress and disorient you, and by the end, you have absolutely NO FUCKING CLUE what you just watched.

First, the good: Tideland is beautifully shot. Gilliam is a master behind the camera, no mistake, and the cinematography is astounding. The story, an adaptation of what is evidently a really good book, is also quite good...sort of. Jeff Bridges is also really great, acting like a champ.

Now the bad: EVERYTHING ELSE. The story is, at best, deeply tragic. At worst, it's incoherent and disgusting. The movie is prefaced by Terry Gilliam warning us that we may hate this movie, but it helped him discover his inner child, who is a little girl. He also invites us to laugh. If you laugh during this movie, you have NO SOUL--or at least, very little of one. The movie is said to be from "the eyes of the child", which is technically true. There's no morality tale hidden in here--the horrible acts of inhumanity that pervade every core facet of this movie are presented so matter of factly, so simply, that it almost makes them worse. To watch the series of unfortunate events that unfolds in the life of Jeliza-Rose is utterly painful.

Seriously, Terry Gilliam just made sure to pound into our brains every single terrible thing that happens in this girl's childhood. Worse yet, she's so far-gone with loneliness that she doesn't even realize how bad things have become. She becomes delusional, and it doesn't help that she encounters nothing but the worst dregs of humanities. From a taxidermist obsessed with stuffing human corpses, waging a "war on all bees" (seriously) to her retarded next door neighbor, whom this precocious 9-year old girl has a ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP with. I am not fucking kidding, there's a scene where they make out, and she even asks him to whip out his dick. Even if his mind is like a five-year old's, he's, like, easily in his mid-twenties. The entire movie is exploitative schlock, misery and woe compounded by a sense of arrogant pride, as if Terry Gilliam is DARING us to criticize it, DARING us to call him out on his refuge in audacity. Well, I'm calling him out.

Terry Gilliam, you can NOT make a movie where a young girl dresses up the rotting corpse of her parent in wigs and makeup, attempts to seduce a retard, urges him to cause a deadly train crash, and then have her hounded by her own twisted, broken psyche, manifested by talking dolls' heads, bullied by abusive parents, and terrorized by an insane woman dressed like a witch, with one eye and a fixation for stuffing human corpses and turning them into leathery statues. You cannot expect me to appreciate any artistic integrity in a film so blatantly self-serving, so indulgent in whatever private issues that you may be dealing with that it ignores the fact that movies--nay, all entertainment--is meant to be viewed by an AUDIENCE. Other people have to be able to watch this movie and not feel sickened, disturbed, and genuinely disgusted by what they see. If your goal was to make me question your sanity, make me question your humanity, then you have succeeded.

I've tried not to spoiler this, because despite how horrible this film is, if you are going to see it (and I urge you not to) then the surprises are the key. The movie is a roller coaster of atrocities, built one atop the other, crowning in an epic explosion of immorality and built upon a foundation of arrogance and conceit. Great cinematography cannot save a movie that serves as nothing more than fuel to your own ego, as some sort of misaimed desire to recapture some manner of childhood...I don't even know. Innocence? The movie makes no sense. It has no moral, no message, no direction. It's aimless, pointless, absurd and horrifying. This is not art. This is a form of emotional torture, and I would only subject this movie willingly, having seen it myself, to the very worst of humanity, because truly, they are the only ones who could ever even HOPE to enjoy this steaming pile of shit.
 

Gardenia

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Well that was a WALL OF TEXT.
Kinda made me want to see the movie though.

RentCavalier said:
If your goal was to make me question your sanity, make me question your humanity, then you have succeeded.
You should see Antichrist.
 

RentCavalier

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Nightzirk said:
Well that was a WALL OF TEXT.
Kinda made me want to see the movie though.

RentCavalier said:
If your goal was to make me question your sanity, make me question your humanity, then you have succeeded.
You should see Antichrist.
Since I used paragraphs and spacing, how exactly was it a wall of text?
 

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RentCavalier said:
Nightzirk said:
Well that was a WALL OF TEXT.
Kinda made me want to see the movie though.

RentCavalier said:
If your goal was to make me question your sanity, make me question your humanity, then you have succeeded.
You should see Antichrist.
Since I used paragraphs and spacing, how exactly was it a wall of text?
Not meant as an insult, I probably should have written "Epic long post" but then again, I haven't had my coffee yet. Sincere apologies.
 

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You do realise that you didn't really review the film, I mean with the exception of this line "Tideland is beautifully shot. Gilliam is a master behind the camera, no mistake, and the cinematography is astounding. The story, an adaptation of what is evidently a really good book, is also quite good...sort of. Jeff Bridges is also really great, acting like a champ." Everything else is just inane babbling about how you didn't understand anything and how HUMANITY HAS FAIILED!

What took 8 paragraphs could have been said in 1-2. I give this movie review a d-, I suggest you see me after class to explain this atrocious failure.

In all seriousness though, Tideland is somewhat the spiritual successor of Brazil, the difference is that you realize, unlike Brazil where the entire world was craptacular and the only escape was a mind altering fantasy world that served to bring about further psychosis, Tideland's craptacular world is limited to the girls own imagination. And we hope doesn't extend much further than that. It's quite comparable to something like pan's labyrinth, although, has a much bigger directors wank factor.
 

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First of all, calm down. It's a movie.

Third, maybe stop lambasting Gilliam for making a movie you didn't like, and examine what it is about you that made the depictions in Tideland so upsetting.

Secondly, guess what? He made the movie! It exists! And there's nothing you can do about it.
 

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I was lucky enough to attend the world premiere of "Tideland" a couple years back at the Toronto Film Festival.


Gilliam got up at the beginning and said pretty much what it sounds like he said in the intro. "I hope you enjoy the movie....Actually, wait i don't hope that."

If you are a fan of film, then i think this movie is almost a must-see. It is also one that i doubt ANYONE will ever want to watch again. It is incredibly bold movie-making. Gilliam's courage in producing this is noteworthy.

The acting is tremendous. Jodelle Ferland in the lead is fantastically compelling.. It's amazing how this little girl is able to carry the picture like she did.

Was it one of the most uncomfortable movie-going experiences of my life? You betcha. But i am so very glad i took the trip.
 

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I like art, until it gets pretentious and up it's own ass. Making a movie bad on purpose is exactly that. If you make a movie for yourself, watch it by yourself. Don't show it to other people like that horrible book of poetry your always writing in that nobody cares about.

Screw this director, screw this movie, and screw everyone who defends it. The subject matter is so horrific as to be indefensible.
 

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OK, Gilliam made a dud. I, like any human being with a pulse, was appalled by the idea that ANYONE would make this kind of crap. (The most painful bit, gnawing at the back of my mind throughout the whole opus, was the knowledge that I'd PAID for the pleasure.)

However, I say we should just forget this piece of garbage and move on to eagerly anticipate whatever he'll do next. Let's face it: Gilliam is a genius, and he has the balls to be a bit experimental. Given the man's previous efforts, we should easily be able to forgive him this one little buzz - killer.

To anyone suffering from the trauma of having sat through Tideland: Try watching The Fisher King. It helps.
 

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Not a Spy said:
Cilliandrew said:
I was lucky enough to attend the world premiere of "Tideland" a couple years back at the Toronto Film Festival.


Gilliam got up at the beginning and said pretty much what it sounds like he said in the intro. "I hope you enjoy the movie....Actually, wait i don't hope that."

If you are a fan of film, then i think this movie is almost a must-see. It is also one that i doubt ANYONE will ever want to watch again. It is incredibly bold movie-making. Gilliam's courage in producing this is noteworthy.

The acting is tremendous. Jodelle Ferland in the lead is fantastically compelling.. It's amazing how this little girl is able to carry the picture like she did.

Was it one of the most uncomfortable movie-going experiences of my life? You betcha. But i am so very glad i took the trip.
I agree. I've never seen the movie, but maybe the whole point WAS to make you (RentCavalier) uncomfortable. In your review the only thing you seemed mad about was that the movie was disturbing. Not that it had poor acting, shoddy cinematography, or crappy writing. You just seemed uncomfortable with the subject matter. That doesn't make it a bad movie, It's just not something you would enjoy, and again, maybe that was the point.
The point of art is the celebration of life. Anyone who says differently is being pretentious. Art is the reflection of life on the soul, and that you could make something like this and try to pass it off as art...ugh.
 

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Not a Spy said:
TsunamiWombat said:
The point of art is the celebration of life. Anyone who says differently is being pretentious. Art is the reflection of life on the soul, and that you could make something like this and try to pass it off as art...ugh.
Eeeh, I've never seen the film so I can't judge it but, again, that's just personal taste. If it had some other shitty aspect (acting, writing, etc) then I'd understand but...I already said all this. Oh well, i guess it shall be a gentlemanly disagreement. *tips hat and exits thread*.
I've never seen it either, i'm still offended by it. *tips hat and exits likewise*
 

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TsunamiWombat said:
Not a Spy said:
Cilliandrew said:
I was lucky enough to attend the world premiere of "Tideland" a couple years back at the Toronto Film Festival.


Gilliam got up at the beginning and said pretty much what it sounds like he said in the intro. "I hope you enjoy the movie....Actually, wait i don't hope that."

If you are a fan of film, then i think this movie is almost a must-see. It is also one that i doubt ANYONE will ever want to watch again. It is incredibly bold movie-making. Gilliam's courage in producing this is noteworthy.

The acting is tremendous. Jodelle Ferland in the lead is fantastically compelling.. It's amazing how this little girl is able to carry the picture like she did.

Was it one of the most uncomfortable movie-going experiences of my life? You betcha. But i am so very glad i took the trip.
I agree. I've never seen the movie, but maybe the whole point WAS to make you (RentCavalier) uncomfortable. In your review the only thing you seemed mad about was that the movie was disturbing. Not that it had poor acting, shoddy cinematography, or crappy writing. You just seemed uncomfortable with the subject matter. That doesn't make it a bad movie, It's just not something you would enjoy, and again, maybe that was the point.
The point of art is the celebration of life. Anyone who says differently is being pretentious. Art is the reflection of life on the soul, and that you could make something like this and try to pass it off as art...ugh.

....and i suppose i would argue that if you REALLY dig deep into "Tideland", you would find a fairly positive message about life in the face of some truly horrific circumstances...
 

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Real Gonzo said:
TsunamiWombat said:
How do you explain Irreversible? That movie is unconfortable viewing all the way through. Even though I haven't watched Tideland, I'd probably prefer this over Halloween Remake. I would bet there would be one movie with the worst subject than the former. I read the Audition was pretty disturbing as well.

I'd say this movie is reflection of what is going on in the reality.

To OP, the review is pretty well-written aside from being not objective at all. I think this kind of movie is not for entertainment purpose, rather thought-provoking in a negative way.
I explain it as not being art, but philosophical self wank. 'Oo waii we have to examine the dark side of the human pysche' No, no you fucking don't. Every time someone gushes over this bizzare sadomaschoistic torture porn a little bit of my soul dies. It seems like everyone feels the need to love something because it's 'intellectual'. I'm no right wing loony, terrified of the college graduates terking our jobs!, but good lord... this is the kind of stuff that alienates art and philosophy from the mainstream.