Time moves in one direction, is measurable, and can be altered around points of gravity. Yes, it exists.
Time; do you believe in it?
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I think this guy is making an existential argument, rather than a physics one.crudus said:
Like, if nobody measures time, can it really exist? It's the old "tree falling in the woods" thing.
It's not something you can really use logic to refute, because it's challenging the entire foundation upon which logical thought is based.
*slow clap*TimeLord said:
Unfortunately, ot's logically impossible to view time non-subjectively.
Time is arbitrary, duration and entropy are not.XHolySmokesX said:
Generally speaking, the only real way we know "time" exists is because the universe is more disordered now then it was 20,000 years ago. We can measure radioactive decay, radioactivity, and the subsequent increase in entropy. What we choose to label this duration as is irrelevant. Also, interestingly enough, if certain theorist are correct, time is another spatial dimension that does indeed loop back on itself in a concept called "universe bubbling."
Wait, yes we measure time. Our clocks, our perception. Both are influenced by time and measure them- maybe not very accurately, and it's subjected a lot of wibbly-wobbly time perspective stuff, but it's measured.James Joseph Emerald said:
Time is nothing to believe or not believe in. It is there. Obviously.
No matter if you say a day is 24 hours long or 100 weirdohours. A day will still be equally long. In the same way that a thing that weighs 1 kilogram weighs 2 pounds. It is just as heavy. Just a different name.
Time is relative though. If you move faster, time goes slower. But I don't understand that. It's fucking crazy.
No matter if you say a day is 24 hours long or 100 weirdohours. A day will still be equally long. In the same way that a thing that weighs 1 kilogram weighs 2 pounds. It is just as heavy. Just a different name.
Time is relative though. If you move faster, time goes slower. But I don't understand that. It's fucking crazy.
Time's actually a man-made concept used to measure a man-made concept. Neither the divisions or the measurement they're dividing have any real use, except to themselves.
Believe in it? No. Use it? Sure.
Have a huge laugh when people disprove Time Travel while accepting Time as REAL? Equally sure.
Believe in it? No. Use it? Sure.
Have a huge laugh when people disprove Time Travel while accepting Time as REAL? Equally sure.
Er, right. But the point is, if time wasn't measured, would it exist? Just like, if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody hears it, did it make a sound? Scientifically, you can say "yes, of course. Kinetic energy from the tree falling would convert into sound waves, regardless of whether there's anyone around to have their eardrums vibrated by it", but you can't ever be 100% totally positively sure the unobserved world really exists.King Toasty said:
Seriously, you can win virtually any argument with a physicist just by saying "NO, what if dark matter randomly comes along and fucks shit up?"
Time was created by man using mathematical concepts but I know that I ate breakfast before I typed this response so therefore time exists.
Hours, days, years, etc... are inventions of man yes. But they are just measurements of the passage of time. While you can argue about the philosophical nature of time, time is a fundamental physical property. Yet it is also relative. It is a truly interesting topic if you want to delve into it.
To put it simply: if there is motion, there is time. Because that motion has to take place over a certain interval.
Ray Cummings wrote an interesting quote back in 1922 about time: "Time...is what keeps everything from happening at once"
To put it simply: if there is motion, there is time. Because that motion has to take place over a certain interval.
Ray Cummings wrote an interesting quote back in 1922 about time: "Time...is what keeps everything from happening at once"
Well, your theory is wrong. The past is made up of events that have occurred. The present is made up of events that are occurring. The future will be made up of events that will occur.
Time exists despite our futile attempts to rewind, freeze, fast forward or otherwise control it. The only reason we as a species care so much about time is because it is synonymous with decay.
Time exists despite our futile attempts to rewind, freeze, fast forward or otherwise control it. The only reason we as a species care so much about time is because it is synonymous with decay.
We know that time moves in one direction, (at least not on the quantum-mindfuckery level) because we see that atoms decay in one way- downwards. They degrade, always, all the time, instead of every getting stronger (or the reverse of decay). If we ever saw an atom that reverse-decayed, our notion of time would be challenged. But we haven't; we've only seen them get weaker.Snowy Rainbow said:
Time is measurable in much the same way, for really exact time, but humans generally use perspective time- our brain erases, speeds up or slows down memory according to a situation, so in retrospect time seems to have gone faster or slower.
Time being "bent," or more of fluctuated, around extremely heavy objects is fairly common knowledge. Think of putting a ball of a taunt linen sheet: it curves and bends the sheet. I can find stuff on it, I guess, if you really need it.
But that's our idea of time -- that progression is a forward moving force. If time exists outside our need for it, how do you know decay is not caused by time moving sideways? How do you know time moves at all? Or even within our understanding of direction? Perhaps the entire concept of time being movement is wrong.King Toasty said:
My point isn't that time doesn't exist (fuck knows if it does), but rather who's to say our man-made view of it is right? It all just seems so... arrogant (not you - the concept). As if the way we understand time is truth. I dunno.
Everyone should go buy Chronoclast (Selected Essays on Time-Reckoning and Auto-Cannibalism). An album more or less about humanity's obsession with the need for time (to the point of life seeming impossible to operate without it) and the different areas in which it rules our lives and is used by others to control us. I've always been something of an armchair philosopher and I found this band's concept of time and its use as a tool very interesting. Some cool stuff. Made me rethink a lot.
