Time to have a talk about trends in anime

[Luminous Chroma]

You consider Psycho-Pass, Kill la Kill, and some anime (I've never heard of) called Captain Earth classics? in what alternate universe? where crap is considered good?...

I think these are all too new to be considered 'classic', but Kill La Kill and Psycho Pass are, to be fair, rather good shows. Captain Earth isn't even finished airing, and I strongly doubt it will be remembered at all, let alone as a classic. It's decent, and it's got a cool (if wildly impractical) robot-launching sequence, but it's nothing that people will be talking about in ten years.

 

[Riot3000]

I think you are very big overreacting in fact this attitude really rubs me the wrong way. Honestly anime does not need to all be smart and groundbreaking like you can have Cowboy Bebop, you can have your Fist of the North Star, Tenchi and all that stuff. I mean I hear all this stuff about pandering and their is only this and that type are people looking hard enough.

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I mean besides established genres it seems to a lot for everybody depending on what your looking for. I only see like 3 or 4 of this otaku bait everyone bemoans about.

I mean why does anime have this weird "basement dweller" vs "elite" dichotomy.

Like was there ever a time when all anime was groundbreaking and innovative that was a time that never existed.

Perhaps I will admit that I have a tendency to overreact but the fact that Blade and Soul( a piece of shit show that only has it's female characters as a draw) and Fuun Ishin Dai Shougun (a show that is very self-insert and with bad gender politics) are made does not speak well.

Also, there was a time that anime was groundbreaking and innovative: the very start. Osamu Tesuka, Go Nagai, Yoshiyuki Tomino and others had to use limited resources and even less money to the present to create what a lot of people still love today: Astroboy, Space Battleship Yamato, Captain Harlock, and various other classics. At this rate, the industry will be stuck up it's own ass

I can see just because there are shows you don't like does not mean there is anything wrong with the anime industry. Anime is medium with so many genres it is impossible to know where to begin. I mean sure Space Battle Ship Yamato is classic, I think Captain Harlock has aged alright not quite good but not bad and come on man Astro Boy is young child with ballistic coming out of his butt lets stop being so serial about things.

I don't think the anime industry is up its own butt I think there are lot of fans who are up there own butt I am not even going to envoke sturgeons law because with so many genres and different kinds of anime out there I don't there all this reaction is necessary.

So all this stuff about pandering and the terrible state of industry just comes off snobbish and the industry does not need be saved.

You should forget all the crappy anime and watch JoJo. JoJo is everything that is right in the world.

This should close the thread right here good lord the jojo anime I can't wait till they make part 4.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

I have a love hate relationship with fanservice, sometimes it is okay sometimes its just stupid and painful to watch. Like the 2nd season of Rosario vampire or Maken-ki it's just crap with T&A replacing everything. ><


PS:I thought Valvrave was decent not an instant classic but sheesh it and Mahou Sensou are far from bad.......

 

[Weaver]

Well, I love slice of life stuff. To be honest, I find something like Nichijou far more mature (maybe, dare I say, more cerebral) and suited to adult audiences than another combat shonen.

I truly find it amusing you say slice of life is simply catering to typical otakus instead of focusing on high minded intelligence plots. Yet just before that say Kill-la-Kill was a great example of a modern anime. Kill-la-Kill may be smarter than it initially appears, but this is Trigger here. Stupid is their jam, and the show was definitely made to pander to otaku and teens. The plot was anything but "high minded".

Quite frankly, I'm glad not everything is Serial Experiments Lain or Paranoia Agent.

Here's a secret: Most of the stuff back during the heyday was shit, too. Want to know why we only look back and see the classics? Because we collectively dump all the useless baggage. The shows that get remembered are the shows that are good, not the crap. Last year it was Attack on Titan, this year, it was Kill La Kill. How many other shows have been released this season that you are going to forget about in two months time?

History filters things down to the best ones. Do you think everything Winston Churchill said was instant quote gold? No, but we don't remember his stupid drunken rants, just his funny and clever ones.

This is true. To be honest I fell out of anime for awhile around 2002 because everything was just yet another generic shonen (or at least as far as I could tell). I was just bored of it. I'm finding now-a-days I at least have more options available to me. Though the fansub community in North America is stronger now so it might just be that there legitimately are more options to watch subbed anime.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

Well, I love slice of life stuff. To be honest, I find something like Nichijou far more mature (maybe, dare I say, more cerebral) and suited to adult audiences than another combat shonen.

I truly find it amusing you say slice of life is simply catering to typical otakus instead of focusing on high minded intelligence plots. Yet just before that say Kill-la-Kill was a great example of a modern anime. Kill-la-Kill may be smarter than it initially appears, but this is Trigger here. Stupid is their jam, and the show was definitely made to pander to otaku and teens. The plot was anything but "high minded".

Quite frankly, I'm glad not everything is Serial Experiments Lain or Paranoia Agent.

Here's a secret: Most of the stuff back during the heyday was shit, too. Want to know why we only look back and see the classics? Because we collectively dump all the useless baggage. The shows that get remembered are the shows that are good, not the crap. Last year it was Attack on Titan, this year, it was Kill La Kill. How many other shows have been released this season that you are going to forget about in two months time?

History filters things down to the best ones. Do you think everything Winston Churchill said was instant quote gold? No, but we don't remember his stupid drunken rants, just his funny and clever ones.

This is true. To be honest I fell out of anime for awhile around 2002 because everything was just yet another generic shonen (or at least as far as I could tell). I was just bored of it. I'm finding now-a-days I at least have more options available to me. Though the fansub community in North America is stronger now so it might just be that there legitimately are more options to watch subbed anime.

I said Kill la Kill was a classic not that it was smart. I think of it like the Paul Verhoeven Robocop and Spaceship Troopers in which it was stupid action but with some semblance of intelligence. I say that if you must make an action show that Kill la Kill's approach is something that is preferable to simply action without some substance behind it.

And while not everything has to be Paranoia agent I would hope that we don't get the stupid amount of Super Sonico or ReMySis type stuff that seems to only serve to pander using the most irritating and juvenile methods with no actual narrative backing