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Tutorials help, quite a bit.

There are also a plethora of art books available for every style ya can think of.

It's just practice. A time investment.

If you dedicate the hours and internalize the basics, you'll see an improvement over time.

Don't get discouraged either- it just takes time. And don't bother trying to hold yourself up to the standards of an art senpai.

They were noobs at one point too.
 

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Kibeth41 said:
There's no 'what if', because it works. It's how every master artist got to where they are.

Efficient practice makes perfect. Tutorials help astronomically for learning techniques. Practice gives you control over the techniques.

Watch Sinixdesign's sketchbook tour. From ages 15-19 he's absolute garbage. He practiced extremely diligently to get to where he is.
In my defense, that's what basically happened with me and calculus. I put in the work, I studied every day, I failed every test.
 

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Just as an aside, y'know those hair-lo thingies on certain anime-styled characters?


Know how to properly make one with just a pencil and sketchpad? (was able to bullshit one by erasing it, then thinning the erased area, but I'd rather do a proper one).
 

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Erasing is a viable option if you want a straight line, or you could miss out that part totaly if you want a more jagged line like this
 
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Chie Satonaka (I hope I didn't potatize Persona 4's best girl too much)
Hmm, I can see you've made a common mistake that beginners make, which is not recognizing that Yukiko is in fact best girl in Persona 4.

As a recommendation, try using construction lines. This ties into the form primitives (cubes, spheres, cylinders, cones) that I was talking about in my first post, if you still remember. I've read a few books on drawing the human figure, and drawing the head is usually the same, a sphere and a wedge.

I drew a Chie to illustrate an idea of how it works. Just a heads up, I haven't drawn in many years, I never considered myself very good at drawing, I've never draw anime before blah blah, so if this looks terrible and it looks like I have no idea what I am talking about, I apologize.



I start by copying the lines around the skull, trying to get a feel for what angle the head is at, whether it is looking down or up, tilted to one side, etc. I want to draw a sphere the right shape and size, along with the angle of depression of the diameter guideline. If I can't get it right, I erase it and start over, until I can get it right. Then, I draw a guess to where the mid-line of the face, and then I draw the jaw as a wedge. Then I draw a bunch of face landmarks to make proportions easier.

I draw the body as a bunch of distorted cylinders and cubes. Keep it simple. If you can get the construction of this right, everything should fall into place. If you mess up like I did, or rush through this/give up, you will have to correct it later. Better to get most things right the first step.

This part I copy some lines, try to apply some anatomy that I learned. The construction lines help, as it is already looks like a 3D object, so you can do things such as drawing along the face of a cylinder or sphere.

Just linework. At this point it is more like tracing. I had to change the arm, because I had drawn the chest at the wrong angle.

Some quick and simple shading.

If you painstakingly copy the contour lines, or start with one part, such as the eyes and draw everything else around it, what usually happens is a lack of structure, hence it looks asymmetric or lopsided. For a face, you can spend a lot of time adjusting the lines getting everything right until it is perfect, but when you stick the drawing in front of a mirror, it is completely skewed to one side (Using a mirror is a very good test for anything to see if things are drawn properly).

So, unless you are some kind of genius or have photographic memory, I recommend using construction lines. Just ask yourself, which is easier, drawing a picture without any guides, or drawing a picture that is already half finished.

DarklordKyo said:
Just as an aside, y'know those hair-lo thingies on certain anime-styled characters?

Know how to properly make one with just a pencil and sketchpad? (was able to bullshit one by erasing it, then thinning the erased area, but I'd rather do a proper one).
You mean the highlights? You can use a kneaded eraser to create the highlight, or if we are talking about 3 tone cell shading, you can draw the lines for the shadows and the highlight, and color everything as you would a coloring book.

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As others said, there are tons of tutorials on youtube and DeviantArt. If you don't know how to draw something, chances are there is a tutorial on that. But feel free to ask more questions.
 

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Dood, real talk, if that's what you consider bad, I don't want to know what you consider good.

Anyways, I tried doing the head only, but it just won't come out right for some reason.
 

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It's just practice. A time investment.

If you dedicate the hours and internalize the basics, you'll see an improvement over time.
What if I never get any better? I put the work in learning calculus, and I was further motivated by a desire to fulfill my dreams, and I failed.
 

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DarklordKyo said:
LostGryphon said:
It's just practice. A time investment.

If you dedicate the hours and internalize the basics, you'll see an improvement over time.
What if I never get any better? I put the work in learning calculus, and I was further motivated by a desire to fulfill my dreams, and I failed.
I'll give ya one more piece of advice.

Going into it with the attitude that you're going to fail is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Just do it. Enjoy the time spent. And don't hold yourself to unrealistic standards.
 

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LostGryphon said:
I'll give ya one more piece of advice.

Going into it with the attitude that you're going to fail is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Just do it. Enjoy the time spent. And don't hold yourself to unrealistic standards.
Except I went into upgrading a desktop with utmost confidence, having done the research, gotten compatible parts, and having the process drilled into my head, and I ruined the whole damn thing. Luckily, I was able to afford a replacement laptop, but the fact remains that I fail even at something I feel good about succeeding in.