Titanfall Runs at 792p, 60 FPS on Xbox One

[DarkhoIlow]

Pros: Awesome concept, seems like it plays smoothly, good resolution/fps.
Cons: Xbone exclusive.
I'm having a moral dilemma here.

Here's the solution for your dilemma = play it on the PC.

 

[Dark Knifer]

We couldn't even make 1080p

How can cat videos on youtube achieve 1080p and a console from a gigantic corporation can't.

How come people still honestly care about this crap? Oh no its at 792p whatever will we do with ourselves? All sarcasm aside its articles like this that just make me shake my head at everything. All the graphics and HD in the world don't mean jack if you don't have a good aesthetic to the game. I'm getting this game for the 360 anyway. Only game I'm even remotely interested in that is coming out on the Xbox ONE and you put it on the 360? One less console being sold. It'll be fine and look nice when it finally comes out.

Because better graphics matter to some people? People who are interested in technology and plus the better graphics and frames the consoles can manage the easier it would be to port and 1080p is pretty much the standard on TV these days so they should meet that.

I do agree aesthetic is more important but some aesthetics work best with great hardware, such as a large sandbox and what not.

It's not really a huge deal but it would be nice to meet the benchmark of standard on televisions with standardised hardware.

 

[Evonisia]

Pros: Awesome concept, seems like it plays smoothly, good resolution/fps.
Cons: Xbone exclusive.
I'm having a moral dilemma here.

Here's the solution for your dilemma = play it on the PC.

Pros: The benefits of PC gaming.
Cons: You have to download Origin.

At this rate it's just wait a few months for the Xbox 360 port.

 

[DarkhoIlow]

Pros: Awesome concept, seems like it plays smoothly, good resolution/fps.
Cons: Xbone exclusive.
I'm having a moral dilemma here.

Here's the solution for your dilemma = play it on the PC.

Pros: The benefits of PC gaming.
Cons: You have to download Origin.

At this rate it's just wait a few months for the Xbox 360 port.

Origin is barely a con. I played a few EA games through the past 2 years and I never had trouble with Origin crashes (Mass Effect 3 and Battlefield 3 were the games I played on Origin).

Let's not forget the M&K which is quite a big pro when playing shooters.

 

[KazeAizen]

How come people still honestly care about this crap? Oh no its at 792p whatever will we do with ourselves? All sarcasm aside its articles like this that just make me shake my head at everything. All the graphics and HD in the world don't mean jack if you don't have a good aesthetic to the game. I'm getting this game for the 360 anyway. Only game I'm even remotely interested in that is coming out on the Xbox ONE and you put it on the 360? One less console being sold. It'll be fine and look nice when it finally comes out.

Because better graphics matter to some people? People who are interested in technology and plus the better graphics and frames the consoles can manage the easier it would be to port and 1080p is pretty much the standard on TV these days so they should meet that.

I do agree aesthetic is more important but some aesthetics work best with great hardware, such as a large sandbox and what not.

It's not really a huge deal but it would be nice to meet the benchmark of standard on televisions with standardised hardware.

I'm interested in technology but pretty much the whole of the internet has me so burned out on the thing that when I'm sitting in virtual environments classes at school I begin to roll my eyes when they start mentioning this kind of stuff. I shouldn't be burned out on it to the point that I want to get up and rant about this crap in my class. In my opinion we should've just buckled down with the leash Nintendo put on us with their Wii U since it is as powerful as a 360 and PS3 and quite frankly between those games and everything I'm seeing for new generation I can't really tell a lick of difference. None at all. The fact that people continue to flip their lids over this just boggles my mind. Unless it is visibly affecting gameplay or the in game experience in a negative way we really shouldn't care.

Can you tell I'm burned right the heck out on this subject?

 

[Dark Knifer]

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Fair enough, the internet does that to things. It's not a huge deal, certainly not "anything less then 4k is not a game, its a rock with some carvings on it" or something silly like that.

I'll just say, the movie your avatar is based benefitted greatly from advances in technology so gaming should also be looking to advance, but it's not the most important thing next to story and of course gameplay.

I think we can both agree with that.

 

[ToastyMozart]

Pros: The benefits of PC gaming.
Cons: You have to download Origin.

At this rate it's just wait a few months for the Xbox 360 port.

Origin's not fantastic, but it's not so horrible that it's worth buying it on 360 if you already have a capable PC. If it's because you can't trust EA as far as you could throw them like me, you could always run it in a sandbox like I do.

 

[ToastyMozart]

I'm just finally going to start building my own rig.

Nice! Do you already have a build planned out?

 

[ToastyMozart]

792p? No monitor, or TV will support that resolution nativly. At 792p it will look bad on every LCD monitor ever made. It should have been trimmed down to 720p or letter boxed in 1080p. Otherwise it will just be wrong.

That's not really how upscaling works. If you're running 1280x720 on a 1920x1080 monitor without large borders around the image, you're already upscaling the image, so increasing the internal resolution will just make the image look better.

 

[KazeAizen]

I'm just finally going to start building my own rig.

Nice! Do you already have a build planned out?

Nope. I have absolutely nothing planned out. I was gonna go off of advice from two of my friends who do have rigs as well as internet advice. I figure it'd take me a while to actually get all the pieces so I'm gonna try and get stuff that won't make my computer obsolete within 2-3 years.

 

[KazeAizen]

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Fair enough, the internet does that to things. It's not a huge deal, certainly not "anything less then 4k is not a game, its a rock with some carvings on it" or something silly like that.

I'll just say, the movie your avatar is based benefitted greatly from advances in technology so gaming should also be looking to advance, but it's not the most important thing next to story and of course gameplay.

I think we can both agree with that.

Yes it did and we can agree on that. Heck a strong story was what kept people coming back to Final Fantasy pre VII since they were some of the very few games that told a strong narrative back in the day. Well I think I shall leave this thread before I view more content that makes me roll my eyes and or get my blood boiling. Oh Internets my best friend and worst nightmare all in one place.

 

[ToastyMozart]

I'm just finally going to start building my own rig.

Nice! Do you already have a build planned out?

Nope. I have absolutely nothing planned out. I was gonna go off of advice from two of my friends who do have rigs as well as internet advice. I figure it'd take me a while to actually get all the pieces so I'm gonna try and get stuff that won't make my computer obsolete within 2-3 years.

Well, assuming your budget's around $700-800 total, I'd recommend the GTX 760 in terms of price/performance for the video card, or an HD7870/270x if that's not an option.

Also, just save up until you can buy all the parts at once. No point in dropping $250 on a component when its price has fallen to $210 by the time you can use it.

 

[KazeAizen]

I'm just finally going to start building my own rig.

Nice! Do you already have a build planned out?

Nope. I have absolutely nothing planned out. I was gonna go off of advice from two of my friends who do have rigs as well as internet advice. I figure it'd take me a while to actually get all the pieces so I'm gonna try and get stuff that won't make my computer obsolete within 2-3 years.

Well, assuming your budget's around $700-800 total, I'd recommend the GTX 760 in terms of price/performance for the video card, or an HD7870/270x if that's not an option.

Also, just save up until you can buy all the parts at once. No point in dropping $250 on a component when its price has fallen to $210 by the time you can use it.

Thanks for the tip and yeah that's about my price range. This Mac has served me well for the past 4 years but its probably about time to put her out to pasture. The reason I held onto it for so dang long was because its not everyday you find a computer for $1000 with the entire Adobe CS5 and Microsoft office programs in it. CS5 was like fresh on the market when I got this thing.

So the GTX 760 or HD7870/270x eh? I'll write that down.

 

[medv4380]

792p? No monitor, or TV will support that resolution nativly. At 792p it will look bad on every LCD monitor ever made. It should have been trimmed down to 720p or letter boxed in 1080p. Otherwise it will just be wrong.

That's not really how upscaling works. If you're running 1280x720 on a 1920x1080 monitor without large borders around the image, you're already upscaling the image, so increasing the internal resolution will just make the image look better.

Incorrect, taking an 800 x 600 resolution and piping it to a 1024 x 768 native LCD monitor results in this.

Some have weird stretching options to compensate but they all mess up the quality of the image.

 

[ToastyMozart]

So the GTX 760 or HD7870/270x eh? I'll write that down.

The 760's amazing price/performance wise, but it's also around $50 more than the 7870, which is what I went with for my initial build (I made it before the 7xx series launched).
The 760's definitely the more powerful of the two though.

And I'd say still hang onto the mac if you can. You can always convert it into a media center/HTPC/Server/etc.

 

[Strazdas]

1080p and 60 FPS? I guess you didnt deliver neither of those. now all i have to do is manuacly laugh as i see microsofts flagship sink.

We couldn't even make 1080p

How can cat videos on youtube achieve 1080p and a console from a gigantic corporation can't.

They cant. Youtube doesnt have 1080p. What youtube has is very blurry super-compressed video that runs on 1080 resolution and 25 FPS.

I'm happy to hear the beta is underway, but why are so many people hung up on resolution of late? I guess it's nice when you have a 40+ tv or something. It seems every other time when a game isn't 1080 people get mad or make snide remarks. I really don't care how good a game looks in relation to how well it plays. I mean I love Paper Please, and it looks like something made for Apple II E. I guess I just have low standards; if it works and glitches, I'm good. Anything after that is gravy.

probably because 1080p is bare minimum the new consoles should have delivered. and no, you dont need 40 inch tv for that. any 19 inch tv will show you a difference real nice.
It doesnt play well either though, it cant do 60 fps.

And is this weird resomolution just on the Xbone or for PC too? Because it seems the only people who care about such things are mostly PC gamers.

resolution on PC wil lbe costumizable. If they dont allow that that would probably be a first game in years to do that. No, wait, there was also Guise of the Wolf that locked your resolution but thats very much indie.
And everyone cares about resolution. Its like being served shit in a restaurant when you ordered a 100 dollar dish. sure you can still eat it but it wont be a smart idea not to complain.

I'll take a lower resolution if it means the game runs smoothly

But, alas, it doesnt.

Most people who game on television screens can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.

False. The only people who cannot tell the difference are those who have eye-sight problem.

792p! Welcome to the future people. Honestly if you are playing on a tv from a couch and not two feet away from a computer monitor you won't know the difference.

Yes you will.
The only way you will not see a difference is either you are:
A) Lieing
B) Have Eye-sight problems
C) Not actually watching HD.

Hopefully this is just a development issue due to working with a new API.If not microsoft is going to have a lot of unhappy customers when the divide between ps4 and xbox one gets bigger.

Its not. There is no new API. Its using PC infrastructure. If you could program games for PC you can program them for new consoles. The only thing is Microsofts retarded idea of using united RAM for both GPU and CPU.

I don't think these consoles are trying to match high-end PCs.

they were doing this sucesfully for EVERY generation but this.

They're trying to provide high-end gaming experiences to consumers without the hassle PCs can sometimes be and usually the associated costs.

Then they have completely failed on both sides of this need. They neither provide high-end gaming experiences nor do they avoid the hassle that PCs have.

It's not a hardware issue. Forza 5 does 1080p at 60fps. It's more about the devs being able to achieve it, which by the sounds of things is like trying to thread a camel through the eye of a needle. I'm not overly concerned; Titanfall is still a month from release.

It is hardware issues. Forza gets away with it because racing games are not processing intesive because it factors in only the racing. heck, people already made fun at how AWFUL anything but the cars and main track look on forza already. Thats like saying battlefield shoudl run at max resolution always because we can make tetris do that so its not hardware!

Pros: Awesome concept, seems like it plays smoothly, good resolution/fps.
Cons: Xbone exclusive.
I'm having a moral dilemma here.

It does not paly smoothly nor has good resolution.
And it isnt xbone exclusive, it all comes out for 360 and PC.
So much wrongs in this post....

You speak the truth. I'm just finally going to start building my own rig and if not that at least get an Alienware laptop so I can run League of Legends better than my Mac can (very long story there).

Sigh. Yes, pay twice the amount of money for product that you dont even need then complain about expensive PCs. you can run League of Legends on a laptop for 200 dollars if thats all you want to play on it. Alienware is made for idiots that got more money then sense.

Unless it is visibly affecting gameplay or the in game experience in a negative way we really shouldn't care.

thats the thing though. Resolution and FPS is always visibly affecting the gameplay unless you go above 120 fps or to 4k resolutions. things like 1080p and 60 fps is bare minimum for visually pleasing gameplay nowadays.

Nope. I have absolutely nothing planned out. I was gonna go off of advice from two of my friends who do have rigs as well as internet advice. I figure it'd take me a while to actually get all the pieces so I'm gonna try and get stuff that won't make my computer obsolete within 2-3 years.

You could ask in reddits pcmasterrace place. they are arrogant assholes but damn do they deliver on PC build advice (much better than blind leading the blind in /r/buildapc )

So the GTX 760 or HD7870/270x eh? I'll write that down.

Ill have to second what ToastyMozart said, 760 is a great card and is a very good choice for your budget range.

 

[Robert Marrs]

1080p and 60 FPS? I guess you didnt deliver neither of those. now all i have to do is manuacly laugh as i see microsofts flagship sink.

792p! Welcome to the future people. Honestly if you are playing on a tv from a couch and not two feet away from a computer monitor you won't know the difference.

Yes you will.
The only way you will not see a difference is either you are:
A) Lieing
B) Have Eye-sight problems
C) Not actually watching HD.

Hopefully this is just a development issue due to working with a new API.If not microsoft is going to have a lot of unhappy customers when the divide between ps4 and xbox one gets bigger.

Its not. There is no new API. Its using PC infrastructure. If you could program games for PC you can program them for new consoles. The only thing is Microsofts retarded idea of using united RAM for both GPU and CPU.

When it is upscaled to 1080 no. You will not be able to tell the difference unless you have both side by side and even then just barely. And yes it is a new API. Its using x86 architecture which has nothing to do with the actual API. Maybe you got confused responding to so many people at once. Mantle is a new API that still uses x86 architecture. In case you were wondering I play most of my games on pc and know the difference in visuals on resolutions. I work with computers on a daily basis, I am Comp TIA A+ certified and I am a CCNA. Maybe you should do some research before you start ranting about things you clearly do not understand.

 

[KazeAizen]

Sigh. Yes, pay twice the amount of money for product that you dont even need then complain about expensive PCs. you can run League of Legends on a laptop for 200 dollars if thats all you want to play on it. Alienware is made for idiots that got more money then sense.

It isn't though. I've been wanting to get into PC gaming for a little while. I have a Steam account I rarely use for fear of not being able to play a lot of games, and quite a few games seem to be windows exclusive. Besides this old Mac of mine is on its last legs anyway. I'm due for a new computer soon. As for Alienware the only reason I mention them is because they are the one computer maker that I know makes dedicated gaming style laptops and a few of my friends have em. So yeah call me ignorant on that but if I could find a bargain on one that isn't too beat up I'm not going to complain.

thats the thing though. Resolution and FPS is always visibly affecting the gameplay unless you go above 120 fps or to 4k resolutions. things like 1080p and 60 fps is bare minimum for visually pleasing gameplay nowadays.

4K resolutions? Foreign language to me. On a personal level 1080p as in HD being the bare minimum for visually pleasing is just something really and truly sad to me. When we went HD in my home me and my bro didn't care or really see the difference. Somehow though our parents did care which it should be the other way around. I never use the HD channels on our TV and my mom and dad constantly wonder why. The reason is because there isn't much of a concerning difference between the two for me to care. Call me old fashioned or a fool or stupid but this kind of stuff has rarely bothered me. Should it? Probably, but I don't care.

You could ask in reddits pcmasterrace place. they are arrogant assholes but damn do they deliver on PC build advice (much better than blind leading the blind in /r/buildapc )

I'm afraid to go there. I've never actually been to reddit. Apart from 4chan that is the only other major realm of the internet I've never dared to go. It doesn't surprise me that they are arrogant assholes really, but I have no doubt they deliver. If they want to deliver to a n00b. I'll maybe ask their advice but I got at least 2 close friends that can help me out as well and I know they won't act like assholes about it.

Ill have to second what ToastyMozart said, 760 is a great card and is a very good choice for your budget range.

K. Written down and in all my personal logs. Good lord I can't imagine how long it took you to make this post. Jeez. 0_0

 

[Strazdas]

When it is upscaled to 1080 no. You will not be able to tell the difference unless you have both side by side and even then just barely. And yes it is a new API. Its using x86 architecture which has nothing to do with the actual API. Maybe you got confused responding to so many people at once. Mantle is a new API that still uses x86 architecture. In case you were wondering I play most of my games on pc and know the difference in visuals on resolutions. I work with computers on a daily basis, I am Comp TIA A+ certified and I am a CCNA. Maybe you should do some research before you start ranting about things you clearly do not understand.

Upscaling does not make your game look better. It is still low resolution when you upscale it. That is like zooming on an image and applying a sharpening filter.
You are correct about Mantle being a new API, but is this game developed on mantle only? Does Xbone run on mantle? because last i heard it runs on directx.
It matters not who or what you are. what matters is that you falsely claim that you cannot tell the difference between different resolutions.

It isn't though. I've been wanting to get into PC gaming for a little while. I have a Steam account I rarely use for fear of not being able to play a lot of games, and quite a few games seem to be windows exclusive. Besides this old Mac of mine is on its last legs anyway. I'm due for a new computer soon. As for Alienware the only reason I mention them is because they are the one computer maker that I know makes dedicated gaming style laptops and a few of my friends have em. So yeah call me ignorant on that but if I could find a bargain on one that isn't too beat up I'm not going to complain.

well, then building a PC (that you seem to be going to do from your posts) or buying a prebuilt PC that isnt overpriced is the way to go. You cannot find a bargain on Alienware even if it was 50% off. They are simply overpricing their computers to enormous extent. You are better off with somone like "PC Specialist[footnote]Its a name of a shop[/footnote]" prebuilding your PC or finding some other locally prebuilt PC.

4K resolutions? Foreign language to me. On a personal level 1080p as in HD being the bare minimum for visually pleasing is just something really and truly sad to me. When we went HD in my home me and my bro didn't care or really see the difference. Somehow though our parents did care which it should be the other way around. I never use the HD channels on our TV and my mom and dad constantly wonder why. The reason is because there isn't much of a concerning difference between the two for me to care. Call me old fashioned or a fool or stupid but this kind of stuff has rarely bothered me. Should it? Probably, but I don't care.

Standard being bare minimum for modern hardware that is supposed to last for next 10 years according to MS. No, i dont find that sad at all. I find it sad that new hardware is incapable of that. When Standard definition was named standard it actually was a standard, but that was over a decade ago. HD is a standard now and its only going to go up from there.

I'm afraid to go there. I've never actually been to reddit. Apart from 4chan that is the only other major realm of the internet I've never dared to go. It doesn't surprise me that they are arrogant assholes really, but I have no doubt they deliver. If they want to deliver to a n00b. I'll maybe ask their advice but I got at least 2 close friends that can help me out as well and I know they won't act like assholes about it.

Its a long stretch from 4chan. They have actual moderators that will ban people that go around insulting others and such. Of course if you got clsoe friends that know this stuff thats very much an option. Not everyone on the internet are assholes though.

K. Written down and in all my personal logs. Good lord I can't imagine how long it took you to make this post. Jeez. 0_0

Just looked at the clock, so far 2:15 spent on escapist today. not sure how much for that exact post. probably around an hour. i do tend to read though every reply on topics i care to discuss.

 

[KazeAizen]

Standard being bare minimum for modern hardware that is supposed to last for next 10 years according to MS. No, i dont find that sad at all. I find it sad that new hardware is incapable of that. When Standard definition was named standard it actually was a standard, but that was over a decade ago. HD is a standard now and its only going to go up from there.

Where could it possibly go from HD? What are we gonna call it? Can't we just stay here for like 10 minutes without trying to break the bank on making everything so high res. and all that? Lets work on it some more when we get closer to holo decks I say....yeah if you couldn't tell I'm utterly tired of hearing about this nonsense. Clearly sticking to something like the Wii U would've been a better idea since they can't seem to get what they wanted to out of their overly bloated VCR of a console.