To All Atheists: Which Religion Do You Like The Most?
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Hmmm, how is that a stereotype? Maybe a simplification, yes...ExaltedK9 said:
Most people I know are Christians, but they are of very varying degrees of religiousness.
Many of them accept evolution (at least for the most part), have sex before marriage and so on...
While others are very strict in those regards, attend church all the time and whatnot...
Sure, there's not just "hardcore" and "casual", in reality it's a rather fluent transition.
But in principal I still agree with this simplified sentiment.
No, of course not, but certain things (which are fully accepted in a secular society) are still difficult if following religious rules to the letter.ExaltedK9 said:
I'd say that these topics are the ones where we can differentiate between "serious" and "casual" religious people (and anyone inbetween).
Especially if the rationalization of why is along the lines of "it's morally wrong because of religious statement XYZ".
But just because they are religiously motivated in those specific areas doesn't mean their whole lives are directed by religion and religion alone, I agree with you there.
Definitely the JW's.
They get treated like crap worldwide and yet they stay firm to their beliefs. That's dedication.
They get treated like crap worldwide and yet they stay firm to their beliefs. That's dedication.
I suppose if we weren't in an almost paranoid fear of it, yes, it probably would be comical.bad rider said:
Operation Freakout, Operation Snow White.
Look them up yourself.
To start, grow up, there is no need to throw personal insults. This is a discussion.ExaltedK9 said:
Evidence of the earth being over 10,000 years old:
"Since Darwin's time, the fossil record has been pushed back to between 2.3 and 3.5 billion years before the present. Most of these Precambrian fossils are microscopic bacteria or microfossils. However, macroscopic fossils are now known from the late Proterozoic. The Ediacaran biota (also called Vendian biota) dating from 575 million years ago collectively constitutes a richly diverse assembly of early multicellular eukaryotes."
So in order to believe that the earth is less than 10,000 years old you must ignore plenty of scientific evidence.
I still dont know how you can say there is one type of christian, like you're all clones. Have more self worth please. If we're going to get technical there are Anglicans and Episcopalians, Baptists, Eastern Orthodox Christians, evangelical Christians, Methodists, Irish Presbyterians, Puritans, Roman Catholics, Seventh-day Adventists to name but a few. All different types of Christians.
Within those groups you can go further with Active Christians, Professing Christians, Private Christians, Cultural Christians and None practicing Christians.
It goes on and on. Some are more militant than others, some take the bible more literally than other sects. Even amongst churches and sects you will find individual differences and interpretations. I could go on. Its like a whole rainbow of different christians. To say there is one type doesn't do it justice.
Good caps lock by the way.
Yes, I'm sure you could go on, sorry if I can't keep up, I left my thesaurus at home, but from what I do collect from your post...if you're gonna break up the christian "sects" that way then I have to point out that the Romans we're a race of people, catholics be;eive in something else entirely, the definition of evangelical christian is a christian who is actively preaching the bible. If you're gonna take it another step further with, "private christian", "active christian", "cultural christian???" Those werent sub-sects of christianity.bjj hero said:
Alot of those titles can slapped onto just about anything...Ok, lets say that there's this guy named Bob. Bob likes to golf, so he's a golfer. Now what kind of golfer, is Bob? Well he could be a private golfer (prefers not to golf in public). Or an active golfer (golfs regularlly?). Or perhaps maybe a cultural golfer (very immersed in the history and origins of golf possibly). A whole rainbow of golfers, really. And the same could be applied to pretty much anything.
Maybe it was a bit closed-minded of me to say that there is only one type of christian, I wasn't implying that all christians are just clones, everyone of them, just like everyone else are very much varied people, but most follow a simialr belief to be classified as christians. It's common knowledge that alot of christians have some differing beliefs, I mostly figured that that was a given.
Some christians I've met think that Harry Potter is satanic...personally I think Harry Potter is cool (I'm halfway through the fourth book). but what I'm getting at is that most of them generally follow the same beleif.
I apologize for my personal insult, I'm not in the habit of doing so...I offer only my sincerest apologies, in hopes that you will forgive me.
I accept your apology, its easy for these discussions to get heated.ExaltedK9 said:
Referring to privite christians etc is more to do with individuals rather than churches. Cultural Christians tend to believe that "good people go to heaven" regardless of belief. Maybe Im in the wrong but I always considered catholics christians. They still believe Christ died for our sins.
I think we're finding some middle ground here. Your Bob the Golfer is a great example. There is plenty of variation in any group of people. My local football supporters contain a small group called "the naughty 40" who are dicks and cause loads of trouble. Most stoke supporters are ok though. A few Christian groups give the rest a bad name. I know plenty of tollerent Christians, but they dont make it into the newspapers. Its the same with Islam. You only ever hear about the extremists.
I wouldn't want to tar all christians with the same brush, plenty are good people. Having said that, there are some clowns out there.
Beleive me, I'm not denying that there, aren't clowns of any type...Mostly because I've already made an ass of myself. And I have to agree with alot of what you said.bjj hero said:
I'm not sure though, how similar christians are to catholics, a close friend of mine is a catholic. He reads different bibles, and prays to different people.
I wish I could respond to the post you made before this one, referring to evidence of the earth being over 10,000 years old, but sadly, I am a junior highschool student, and I'm not even really sure how to counter that, due to my limited experience with that field of study.
But I'm glad that a middle ground has been reached. Once you begin to think about it, both theories have a giant hole in them from the start. Intelligent design, There's not telling where a God could have come from. Evolution, or the big bang, there is no explanation as to how the planets got there, or matter, or gravity. Honestly I don't know where God came from, or if he didn't use a big bang, or something of the sort, to make earth.
this is all starting to resemble something of a discussion....
I'm not going to start talking science but you're right, there is still plenty that science doesn't know and other things where they have an idea but cannot test it at this time. The large hadron collider [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadron_Collider] should be ready to go at the end of this year which will help with some of these questions and probably create some more. I cant wait, its an exciting time.ExaltedK9 said:
To be honest, my actual religion is actually not shared with any one "religion".captainwillies said:
It's sort of a blend of Taoism, spiritualism and some sort of "The Matrix" idea.
But the words of Lao Tsu is sort of the rules of conduct... First and foremost
the first few lines of Tao Te Ching which renounces the possibility to teach
what the Tao is in any manner of words. Thus a "priest" following Tao could only
teach by doing and not by preaching. None the less, I love discussing the topic.
Philosophies don't have Monks or Temples,Religions do. A Philosophy might require an acetic lifestyle including abstinance,but a Religion INSTITUTIONALIZES it. These uncoerced children are living around men wound a little too tight if you ask me. But I don't want you to think I'm picking on Buddhism, in my neck of the woods we call 'em "Youth Ministers"...kind of an ironic title.Matronadena said:
impnumber1 said:
Hey, i think your not being mindful enough....these people devote themselves to becomming better in their own eyes and trying to discover their own path through the great journey.
wisdom shared Or 2 heads better than one is a common concept. you may only have experience of religion having institutions as you call it, but never in any of my visits to a temple have the monks tried to preach or to get me to donate. not everything is within your experience, holding a very absolutist view of these things is not the best way to go about it (in my opinion) philosophies themselves may not have specific monks or temples. but a group whom aim is to explore their own philosophy may gather and share knowledge. there is nothing to stop this. Would you happen to be from Northen America? if so i could understand how you could believe only religion has temples and so on (not pickin on americans so please, no bitchy replies from other people)