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Valkyrie101

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Demented Teddy said:
Cpt_Oblivious said:
Demented Teddy said:
Julianking93 said:
I am not a drop-out but I find bullying to be higly disgusting.
The school authority figures allowing scum to make others miserable is enraging!

Did you go to a teacher about the bullying?
Having been bullied when I was younger, I feel this course of action doesn't work. When I was a kid, I got bullied for being fat, so I'd get pissed off and lash out. I'd then get in trouble for responding to abuse and everyone else involved would get off.

In fact, the school then decided I had "anger management issues" and put me in special classes for 2 years. So I learned to colour in pretty things instead of what a paedophile is, like everyone is. Of course, when my parents confronted the headteacher, after about a month of these classes and me still being bullied, she just said "Oh, there's no bullying in our school".

So I haven't had good experiences with the "Tell a teacher" option.
That is why I asked that question.

"The school authority figures allowing scum to make others miserable is enraging!"
In my experience, teachers don't tend to be very interested in bullying. Their hands are tied and there's not a lot they can do, so they don't bother. At the end of the day, it doesn't affect them, so they'd rather not have to go to the trouble of handing out detentions or whatever. Fortunately in my school it's not much of an issue, and largely confined to wankers who bring it on themselves, but I can't see a lot being done if something serious were to happen. They prefer to sweep it under the carpet because it looks better.
 

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Valkyrie101 said:
Demented Teddy said:
Cpt_Oblivious said:
Demented Teddy said:
Julianking93 said:
I am not a drop-out but I find bullying to be higly disgusting.
The school authority figures allowing scum to make others miserable is enraging!

Did you go to a teacher about the bullying?
Having been bullied when I was younger, I feel this course of action doesn't work. When I was a kid, I got bullied for being fat, so I'd get pissed off and lash out. I'd then get in trouble for responding to abuse and everyone else involved would get off.

In fact, the school then decided I had "anger management issues" and put me in special classes for 2 years. So I learned to colour in pretty things instead of what a paedophile is, like everyone is. Of course, when my parents confronted the headteacher, after about a month of these classes and me still being bullied, she just said "Oh, there's no bullying in our school".

So I haven't had good experiences with the "Tell a teacher" option.
That is why I asked that question.

"The school authority figures allowing scum to make others miserable is enraging!"
In my experience, teachers don't tend to be very interested in bullying. Their hands are tied and there's not a lot they can do, so they don't bother. At the end of the day, it doesn't affect them, so they'd rather not have to go to the trouble of handing out detentions or whatever. Fortunately in my school it's not much of an issue, and largely confined to wankers who bring it on themselves, but I can't see a lot being done if something serious were to happen. They prefer to sweep it under the carpet because it looks better.

I know this quite well, 'tis a sad truth. I remember hearing that a kid got thrown into the PE washing machines or something at school (high school mind you, the kid was also pretty short from what I heard) and when he told the coaches one of them said "THIS IS HIGH SCHOOL. GET USED TO IT."
 

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Djehuty said:
Valkyrie101 said:
Demented Teddy said:
Cpt_Oblivious said:
Demented Teddy said:
Julianking93 said:
I am not a drop-out but I find bullying to be higly disgusting.
The school authority figures allowing scum to make others miserable is enraging!

Did you go to a teacher about the bullying?
Having been bullied when I was younger, I feel this course of action doesn't work. When I was a kid, I got bullied for being fat, so I'd get pissed off and lash out. I'd then get in trouble for responding to abuse and everyone else involved would get off.

In fact, the school then decided I had "anger management issues" and put me in special classes for 2 years. So I learned to colour in pretty things instead of what a paedophile is, like everyone is. Of course, when my parents confronted the headteacher, after about a month of these classes and me still being bullied, she just said "Oh, there's no bullying in our school".

So I haven't had good experiences with the "Tell a teacher" option.
That is why I asked that question.

"The school authority figures allowing scum to make others miserable is enraging!"
In my experience, teachers don't tend to be very interested in bullying. Their hands are tied and there's not a lot they can do, so they don't bother. At the end of the day, it doesn't affect them, so they'd rather not have to go to the trouble of handing out detentions or whatever. Fortunately in my school it's not much of an issue, and largely confined to wankers who bring it on themselves, but I can't see a lot being done if something serious were to happen. They prefer to sweep it under the carpet because it looks better.

I know this quite well, 'tis a sad truth. I remember hearing that a kid got thrown into the PE washing machines or something at school (high school mind you, the kid was also pretty short from what I heard) and when he told the coaches one of them said "THIS IS HIGH SCHOOL. GET USED TO IT."
Holy shit, I take it the washing machines weren't turned on?
 

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Valkyrie101 said:
Djehuty said:
Valkyrie101 said:
Demented Teddy said:
Cpt_Oblivious said:
Demented Teddy said:
Julianking93 said:
I am not a drop-out but I find bullying to be higly disgusting.
The school authority figures allowing scum to make others miserable is enraging!

Did you go to a teacher about the bullying?
Having been bullied when I was younger, I feel this course of action doesn't work. When I was a kid, I got bullied for being fat, so I'd get pissed off and lash out. I'd then get in trouble for responding to abuse and everyone else involved would get off.

In fact, the school then decided I had "anger management issues" and put me in special classes for 2 years. So I learned to colour in pretty things instead of what a paedophile is, like everyone is. Of course, when my parents confronted the headteacher, after about a month of these classes and me still being bullied, she just said "Oh, there's no bullying in our school".

So I haven't had good experiences with the "Tell a teacher" option.
That is why I asked that question.

"The school authority figures allowing scum to make others miserable is enraging!"
In my experience, teachers don't tend to be very interested in bullying. Their hands are tied and there's not a lot they can do, so they don't bother. At the end of the day, it doesn't affect them, so they'd rather not have to go to the trouble of handing out detentions or whatever. Fortunately in my school it's not much of an issue, and largely confined to wankers who bring it on themselves, but I can't see a lot being done if something serious were to happen. They prefer to sweep it under the carpet because it looks better.

I know this quite well, 'tis a sad truth. I remember hearing that a kid got thrown into the PE washing machines or something at school (high school mind you, the kid was also pretty short from what I heard) and when he told the coaches one of them said "THIS IS HIGH SCHOOL. GET USED TO IT."
Holy shit, I take it the washing machines weren't turned on?
My memory fails me but i could've sworn he said they were. Don't take my word on that.
 

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Furburt said:
Well, I always thought to drop out meant to just leave school, which is what I did. I legally removed myself from the schooling system and registered as an external candidate. You can still do the exams in Ireland if you've left school. I didn't do them in my school or anything, I did them in an examination centre.

I understand the word has negative connotations, but I always took the base meaning as "to leave school".
Oh, here you can't legally get out of school and still continue your studies. If you home school yourself, then that's that; no exams, no collage, no way to get any diploma whatsoever(well you could, but you still have to attend school to get access to the exams). In theory one has to attend over 95% of the classes to not get kicked out of school(as in, if you get kicked out once... the chances that an other school would accept you back in are really slim), but practically, as long as you forge medical papers saying "your sick", you can stay all 12 years home(if you don't know a doctor to make these fake documents for free, then there is just not worth it to pay someone for them).

Anyway, now I understand the term (and the learning system in Ireland) a lot better.
 

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Julianking93 said:
Pimppeter2 said:
What are you doing there?
yoyo13rom said:
I may have when I first started out here, but that was only in my case, not as a broad question for everyone who had gone the same route.

And yes, I know it's possible to get bullied in college/work (mainly because it happened at my second job) but there's a far less likelihood that it will happen and I do wish to go to college, so I'll just go for it.
Anyway, I hope you don't have to deal with aggressive people ever again(people actually bully others at work? man that's low), and succeed in going to college.
Btw, at which college do you want to go?(I'm more interested in what you want to study than the location of the building)
 

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Right well, I think it depends upon your situation to be honest.

I had to drop out to move on. I was a junior, top ten, very involved in sports and the various geek clubs. But I was also miserable. I wanted to leave early, but the school system said they refused to graduate me because I did not have 4 years of P.E. and History. That's right, you heard me. I had enough math, Science and English, but not enough P.E. to leave.

So I dropped out.

But the difference is I went directly to college. It turns out most private colleges don't really require a high school diploma, they only require decent grades and a good SAT or ACT score.

I still say it was the best decision for me at the time. I think when it comes down to it, you have to look at what is ultimately best for you. If staying in school isn't really going to get you to college, get out while you can, learn a trade and move on.

If you really want to do something that requires going to college, get enough out of your high school that you can jump to college sooner rather than later.

I'm one of those people who really doesn't think the institution of school is all that great. I went all the way through to get my Masters, and yes, my job has been nice. But I know people who left high school, got jobs right out, and now make very decent livings as well. I feel college is a way for people to feel like they are better than all the unwashed masses. Just because I read Plato in college doesn't make me better than the guy who changes my oil and dropped out of high school. Plato can't fucking change my oil.

I believe college is just a subtle way to reinforce the caste system. This isn't a particularly popular belief among my peers, but they also consider themselves above socializing with the "lower class" as well. College is the way out, but not because it makes you smarter (knowledge does not = intelligence. Knowledge cures ignorance only.) or a better person. It's the way out because society has deemed it so. But I digress.

Decide what you need to make you happy in the long run. If you think you will need a white collar job to be happy, then by all means, stay in school. But if you think you can be just as happy working blue collar, go for it.

If you have supportive parents, you can always go back to school. Both my parents dropped out of high school, and they had a family by the time they went to college. It was hard for them, really hard, but even that can be done.
 

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I left High school and am the intelligences still. Jokes but I feel your pain my college is pretty shite so I've considered dropping out but I think I'll stick to it.
 

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Julianking93 said:
Indeed I did. Is it that surprising?
Heh, you wouldn't even be allowed to drop out of school at that age over here. School is mandatory until the age of 16, which is pretty much the age you are when you complete the shortest/easiest level of high school.

So I did complete high school, despite the bullying I too received. At one point it wasn't so much bullying no more, just being a social pariah. Bad enough y'know.

Sadly I did drop out of college. Twice, actually. My first time was when I did a course in Bio-Informatics. They advertised it as being a scientific field that worked with biology and all the subjects that really appealed to me (one branch even focussing on evolutionary research, like a dream coming true) but with very little mathematics. Hell even the people on it were exactly the kind of people I was longing to surround me with for years. No bullying, no judging, I was finally among my own.

In short; perfect for me. Turned out that was a stone-cold lie and I was forced to leave due to not having enough credits, thanks to the two maths subjects I failed miserably. So I had to leave my newfound family behind, oh joy oh joy.

The second time was the year after that, when I was doing a course in Journalism. The people around were radically different from me and started to bully me, exclude me from everything, you name it. After a few months I started growing more and more depressed, got to see a school shrink, the whole thing. I failed pretty much every subject (with the exception of English and History) but due to those psychological circumstances I was given another chance.

I did not take that chance. I figured I simply did not belong with those people and staying with them any longer would've only made me more and more miserable. I did not regret leaving. Not that I'm not miserable now, I am doing absolutely terrible, but staying there wouldn've done my any good either.
 

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I didn't drop out of high school, but I did drop out of a college course I was doing. I regret the fact that I have a large debt to pay off, but I don't regret dropping out. I decided to try a journalism course, only to find out that I really didn't like journalism all that much. [sub]I'm quite intelligent like that...[/sub]

Demented Teddy said:
I am not a drop-out but I find bullying to be higly disgusting.
The school authority figures allowing scum to make others miserable is enraging!

Did you go to a teacher about the bullying?
Speaking from experience here, telling teachers is probably the very worst thing you can do. The people bullying you always find out. Always. And when they do, it gets a lot worse. Hell, I'm pretty sure the teachers go straight up to the bullies and tell them that you've made a complaint about them. Thanks a lot for making school even more of a hellhole you stupid *****.

To be honest though, I never had to deal with the physical side of it, just the ridicule and emotional torment. Being punched would have probably been preferable to spending half my school life feeling like a worthless sack of crap though.
 

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yoyo13rom said:
Anyway, I hope you don't have to deal with aggressive people ever again(people actually bully others at work? man that's low), and succeed in going to college.
Btw, at which college do you want to go?(I'm more interested in what you want to study than the location of the building)
Well, I'm planning on going to college abroad, so probably somewhere in Europe like Italy or something.

I'm not 100% sure where though yet
 

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Julianking93 said:
yoyo13rom said:
Anyway, I hope you don't have to deal with aggressive people ever again(people actually bully others at work? man that's low), and succeed in going to college.
Btw, at which college do you want to go?(I'm more interested in what you want to study than the location of the building)
Well, I'm planning on going to college abroad, so probably somewhere in Europe like Italy or something.

I'm not 100% sure where though yet
Don't you need your highschool diploma before even going to a college?

Also, man up and get some friends. It's not exactly a difficult thing to do. I imagine your life must be a lonely one.
 

Julianking93

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Counter_Southpaw said:
Don't you need your highschool diploma before even going to a college?

Also, man up and get some friends. It's not exactly a difficult thing to do. I imagine your life must be a lonely one.
I have my GED and I enjoy my solitude.

Sure it gets lonely sometimes, but I'm a pretty happy person, so running out and getting friends isn't high up on my list o things to do right now.
 

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I got sick and dropped out at thirteen and I am not sure if I regret it or what.

I mean, on the one hand, I wouldn't be a useless sack of shit and waste of resources right now, but on the other I'd still be this fucking despicable Nice Guy turd and not even realise how utterly repulsive I am.
I mean, I'm still kind of completely unlikeable now, but at least it's in an entirely different way. More colossal dick than ingratiating little fuckwad. Which is a vast improvement, as far as I'm concerned.

I could always pick the education back up, I guess. If I can ever start giving a fuck again.
So... I suppose no. No I don't regret it.
I prefer being a different person. I could be a fucking nuclear physicist or something in an alternate future, and I would still pick this series of events just because I cannot stand who I used to be even more than I cannot stand who I am right now.