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Slipknot1Justin

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To what extent can a Biology teacher teach us about evolution? Many schools get in trouble for even mentioning Darwin's theory, yet my text book in Biology has a whole chapter about Darwin and the like.
 

Grand_Poohbah

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Slipknot1Justin said:
To what extent can a Biology teach us about evolution? Many schools get in trouble for even mentioning Darwin's theory, yet my text book in Biology has a whole chapter about Darwin and the like.
What schools are you talking about? I've gone to private(christian) and public schools and both taught Darwin's theory.(Although the former obviously said it was false.)
 

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Separation of church and state should include school. I, and the rest of the class, had to argue with a substitute teacher in middle school about evolution because he said it was a lie. Needless to say we got him fired.
 

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Gxas said:
Separation of church and state should include school. I, and the rest of the class, had to argue with a substitute teacher in middle school about evolution because he said it was a lie. Needless to say we got him fired.
"Separation of Church and State" is actually not in the United States constitution therefore making it unconstitutional. However; if you are from Russia, it's in there.
 

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They have to teach you evolution theory, it is more religious teachings that get schools into trouble. Typically there may be a disclaimer explaining that there are other explanations (bible), but they cannot go any further than that. Evolution is Science, religion is not, therefore it has no place in your biology class.
 

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We are taught evolution though my teacher insists that the shit theory that the earth is only 10,000 years old and that man came included in "Little Deities first galaxy starter kit"...Ugh!
 

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I went to a catholic school and they did not teach darwins theory, i had a teacher that wanted to but said he could get fired
 

Grand_Poohbah

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Sure intelligent design is based largely on faith, but evolution has huge holes in it. Darwin himself denounced evolution on his death bed because it got out of hand. Evolution originally was a theory that stated creatures adapted to their environments through natural selection. No new species are made through the process of evolution.
 

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Kukul said:
Negating the theory of evolution in the western world makes me scream "WHAT THE FUCK!?"

We are the people of reason, we built the LHC, sent a man into space, harnessed atomic energy, yet somehow we (or more like you, see later) let people tell our children bullshit in schools.

I live in an eastern european, so called "catholic country" and only a handful of nutjobs here deny evolution, while in the USA people still debate on the subject.

Seriously, what the fuck?
Anyone is entitled to what they believe. Evolution is not fact. It has yet to achieve the shiny title of law which is why it still goes by "THEORY of Evolution."
 

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To some people, religion IS science and I think that it can't hurt to respect that. I don't think either evolutionary theory or absolute creationism tells the whole story. The most solid theory for me right now is that God used evolution and that Genesis is symbolic. As in, the six days weren't literal days.

But answering you... Um, I think at least all US schools are REQUIRED to teach Darwin's theory and quite a few prohibit intelligent design. So, maybe you're asking the wrong question?
 

Grand_Poohbah

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darthzew said:
To some people, religion IS science and I think that it can't hurt to respect that. I don't think either evolutionary theory or absolute creationism tells the whole story. The most solid theory for me right now is that God used evolution and that Genesis is symbolic. As in, the six days weren't literal days.

But answering you... Um, I think at least all US schools are REQUIRED to teach Darwin's theory and quite a few prohibit intelligent design. So, maybe you're asking the wrong question?
True, one of the common misconceptions is the belief that all christians think God created the universe in 6 literal days. A day is a measure of time created by man. God could have created the world in 1 second or over the span of billions of years.
 

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Grand_Poohbah said:
Darwin himself denounced evolution on his death bed because it got out of hand.
Thats not actually true. It was made up by pro-creationist Christians.
 

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Grand_Poohbah said:
Sure intelligent design is based largely on faith, but evolution has huge holes in it. Darwin himself denounced evolution on his death bed because it got out of hand. Evolution originally was a theory that stated creatures adapted to their environments through natural selection. No new species are made through the process of evolution.
We know. Anyone who actually studies evolution in school knows that. It's only the people who deny evolution that believe it's some "magical theory whereanimals instantly become better when there's a problem", which is actually as close to a direct quote to a denier I talked to as I can remember.
 
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My school was a bit odd for this. They taught us the creationist theory in "religious studies" class. But the science syllabus completely ignored evolution. I had to educate myself on that, and many other things.
 

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Grand_Poohbah said:
Anyone is entitled to what they believe. Evolution is not fact. It has yet to achieve the shiny title of law which is why it still goes by "THEORY of Evolution."
Now, that last part is wrong. A Law is not more true than a Theory, it just explains a different thing. By the time something becomes a theory, it's damn near proven. Here's what I mean:

Law of Gravity: Things fall
Theory of Gravity: Things fall because...

EDIT: In other words, Laws describe what happens, theories describe why.
 

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Grand_Poohbah said:
Kukul said:
Negating the theory of evolution in the western world makes me scream "WHAT THE FUCK!?"

We are the people of reason, we built the LHC, sent a man into space, harnessed atomic energy, yet somehow we (or more like you, see later) let people tell our children bullshit in schools.

I live in an eastern european, so called "catholic country" and only a handful of nutjobs here deny evolution, while in the USA people still debate on the subject.

Seriously, what the fuck?
Anyone is entitled to what they believe. Evolution is not fact. It has yet to achieve the shiny title of law which is why it still goes by "THEORY of Evolution."
Exactly. I can't believe athiests feel the need to downtalk something they don't believe in every chance they get. OP didn't ask for a debate on religion, he wanted to know about school policies.
 

Flap Jack452

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I go to a private school, we had a whole chapter on evolutionary processes and were told that we were old enough to form our own beliefs without being forced to go one way or another