Tokyo's Anti-Loli Bill has Passed in Committee.

[EHKOS]

Let them have their fun! Now personally I don't like loli shit but if it gets you off then go for it.

 

[EHKOS]

After reading some of these comments and the article I'm still not entirely sure what this law will ban, but I very much hope it bans the abomination that is lolicon. Seriously, anyone who supports it as "freedom of expression" or something think about what it is a representation of: sexual abuse of small children . However much you may claim that it's an "attraction to youthful looks" or an "attraction to an art style" the fact is these pictures are made to look like little girls and so in my opinion are totally wrong.

Better pictures than real children though.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

The last Loli thread I remember we had turned into a real shitstorm real fast... this seems marginally more civil.

I think it's bad cause generally censorship is a bad thing and how the hell will I enjoy my Loli after this?

I really don't understand all these restrictions and classifications... porn is porn, all should be treated as such IMO.

 

[Funkysandwich]

This law isn't just about lolicon though, if you read it it can be used to restrict virtually anything. This is not good news.

 

[Infernalistgamer]

So... does this mean I won't get anymore loli? *sadface*

Start downloading, store it on a flash drive and hope the FBI don't show up at your door because it doesn't go into affect until July...<.<

I'll have to do that, thank you for the suggestion :3

FBI wont show up at your door for some Japanese law...plus Lolis are legal in america..free speech of arts and wat not.

EDIT: by that I mean the drawn kind of not real people of course.

Actually, thanks to the PATRIOT Act, loli H, down to even ageplay on Second Life, constitutes a crime in the US. "Depicting a minor in a sexual situation". A guy went to prison and served time for a pic of Bart banging Lisa Simpson.

 

[TheRealCJ]

Also, why is it only going after anime/manga/games? So they're saying real sex with real people is fine, but fake sex isn't?

I'm pretty sure that Japan already has anti-sex-laws in place against statutory rape, etc.

That's like saying that a law being passed against violence in film/games/tv is saying that plain old IRL murder is fine.

 

[Infernalistgamer]

I don't agree with censorship, but I make an exception in the case of Loli.

In Canada, it is illegal to even be seen looking at child pornography. This law also covers the viewing of lolicon, as it is rendered an obscene image in our country.

So, I won't challenge peoples perceptions on whether looking at loli makes them a pedophile or not.
What I will question is this: what kind of a sick fuck would even think about making something that is a deplorable act in real life, into an exaggerated cartoon? Why does such a person even exist?

I'm speaking out of experience here. The number of pedophilia related arrests and stories I have heard about people living less than half an hour from my home disturbs me. And then I find out that there is a whole fucking genre dedicated to this type of shit for people to get off to?

What the fuck.

Devil's advocate here: I'd point out that gory murder is a deplorable, obscene act exaggerated into cartoons, video games, and movies daily.

 

[ShadowsofHope]

After reading some of these comments and the article I'm still not entirely sure what this law will ban, but I very much hope it bans the abomination that is lolicon. Seriously, anyone who supports it as "freedom of expression" or something think about what it is a representation of: sexual abuse of small children . However much you may claim that it's an "attraction to youthful looks" or an "attraction to an art style" the fact is these pictures are made to look like little girls and so in my opinion are totally wrong.

And the Saw movies are a representation of gratuitous torture of innocent people. I suppose we should ban Saw now, right? Same mentality. Or how about Grand Theft Auto? Representations of various illegal criminal activities in that game, yet no one raises a peep to have it banned like we are knee-jerking to do here.

It's better for these individuals interested in such to be wanking off to fictional characters, rather than being forced to (ban loli, people are going to be forced to go into more dangerous realms to get their "fix") end up looking for obviously illegal images of non-fictional characters instead. And then we have an even worse issue than before.

 

[Alon Shechter]

Yeah, the new children in Japan will not know what a Condom is 'till the age of 18 when they get a girl accidentally pregnant.
Why not teach them about sex from an early age, so they know why there's something pushing in their pants sometimes when they talk to the other sex?

 

[Deadlock Radium]

Thank fuck!

Can I just say, that Japan has some really, really, really disturbing fetishes on their shelves. RapeLay [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapeLay] is one just example.

I am all for the freedom of expression/speech...but you can go too far. Japan has a history of flirting with the border of sanity with this kind of shit and I am glad that this bill passed.

If you are reading this Japan, I am happy that you have matured a lot in my eyes.

Every single word this person said.^

 

[red_tok]

"Under the new law, material deemed "harmful" would be forced into an adults-only section of stores that sell it[...]"

Banning? Where? More like banishing, but isn't hentai/rape/loli/whatever porn for adults anyway? Or am I being an anti-wapanese prude now?

 

[Hedberger]

I actually prefered it when the pedos stayed in their basements cuddling their Loli love-pillows as opposed to molesting real children. At least IRL lolis and their parents will have an easier time pretending the issue doesn't exist. It's good that people have their priorities set straight.

 

[oppp7]

Can someone post the rates of sexual assault in Japan? I need sources before I make an opinion.

 

[DTWolfwood]

sucks to be a lolicon in japan now don't it

Not like its banned, its just moved to adult only section <.<

Not like that has ever stop the sex fiends in Japan lol

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Better pictures than real children though.

Bingo.

There are times when hard choices have to be made. This is nothing on the same magnitude as Truman sitting in his office in late World War II, having been told that he should drop the Atomic bomb on Japan.

However, at some point we're going to need to make choices about how we deal with people who fall outside of societal norms in the West. Now in the cases of those who have the fetish wiring that makes Lolicon an attractive option; it may end up boiling down to two possibilities.

1. Legalise and regulate the sale of animated/comic drawn loli material so that those who want to, may enjoy and consume in the privacy of their own home.

OR

2. Kill them. Seriously, if all the softly, softly counselling or other aversion therapy doesn't work; just execute them.


Now one might argue what about technology that allows us to re-write sections of the brain. Well, maybe, but realistically, we've got the two above options with much middle ground that only seems to enable cyclical problems.


For the record, if the bill is to simply keep such material out of the hands of minors and restrict its sale to adults then sure, knock yourselves out. Just don't allow it be so vague that it can act as a rubber 'Stuff we don't like stamp'.

 

[Delusibeta]

The big, glowing problem is that, in effect, this is likely to have similar affects to the anime and manga industry as if the US rolled out the Californian law on violent videogames nationwide. Especially considering that the bill itself is vague and a similar bill is already in effect. Basically, anything deemed "harmful to children" in a sexual context is liable to get AO'd. Where's the line?

 

[JoJo]

After reading some of these comments and the article I'm still not entirely sure what this law will ban, but I very much hope it bans the abomination that is lolicon. Seriously, anyone who supports it as "freedom of expression" or something think about what it is a representation of: sexual abuse of small children . However much you may claim that it's an "attraction to youthful looks" or an "attraction to an art style" the fact is these pictures are made to look like little girls and so in my opinion are totally wrong.

And the Saw movies are a representation of gratuitous torture of innocent people. I suppose we should ban Saw now, right? Same mentality. Or how about Grand Theft Auto? Representations of various illegal criminal activities in that game, yet no one raises a peep to have it banned like we are knee-jerking to do here.

It's better for these individuals interested in such to be wanking off to fictional characters, rather than being forced to (ban loli, people are going to be forced to go into more dangerous realms to get their "fix") end up looking for obviously illegal images of non-fictional characters instead. And then we have an even worse issue than before.

There is a difference between what I said and the examples you gave, which is that unlike the other two lolicon is specifically designed to encourage a sexual response. We all know that sex is one of the most powerful and irresible motivations, so why encourage it towards children? I don't believe that it really reduces sexual abuse rates, it may or may not increase them.

 

[CrystalShadow]

I live in a country where a lot of this stuff is already banned.

I really don't know what to say about this though. I'm disappointed, but not particularly surprised. The world just seems to be moving towards ever greater censorship right now.

 

[amucha98]

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