Took it too seriously, fandom

[Arnoxthe1]

The gaming "fandom" in general if I can get away with that. I think we all take games way too seriously and I, ironically, get very angry when someone's overreacting over something.

I take 343 Industries' complete butchering handling of the Halo series too seriously and I'll admit that. Then again it's not as if my anger is completely unjustified.

Did you think that they were trying to purposefully screw it up? Halo 4 was, of course, a very flawed game compared to the last Halo's. Even 343 admitted it AT LEAST two times. HOWEVER, to say that they did not do their best at the time with what they had (which was rather little for most of the development of the game, actually) is just wrong.

Well, I guess you can count two things I take too seriously now. Halo.

 

[Evonisia]

The gaming "fandom" in general if I can get away with that. I think we all take games way too seriously and I, ironically, get very angry when someone's overreacting over something.

I take 343 Industries' complete butchering handling of the Halo series too seriously and I'll admit that. Then again it's not as if my anger is completely unjustified.

Did you think that they were trying to purposefully screw it up? Halo 4 was, of course, a very flawed game compared to the last Halo's. Even 343 admitted it AT LEAST two times. HOWEVER, to say that they did not do their best at the time with what they had (which was rather little for most of the development of the game, actually) is just wrong.

Well, I guess you can count two things I take too seriously now. Halo.

I don't think they're doing it on purpose, I think they're doing it because they're fans, and fans only care about doing the series 'justice'. For the most part they've messed up, and the only thing I'd say was done well was Cortana's rampancy (or at least how it's handled in Halo 4). Those god awful forerunner novels, the terminals in Anniversary and Halo 4 give me enough evidence to not trust them when they say "it'll get better".

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

I get very passionate with discussions of Mass Effect 3s ending. Not only do I think it's hate is completely over the top, but contrary to most people I believe the destroy/refusal ending is renegade and synthesis/control are paragon.

I also get kinda passionate about that :/ I think reject is the only valid option that makes any sense at all with regard to everything shepard stands for but thats a discussion for another matter. And since they fudged the refuse ending by making it so the NEXT cycle wins by picking one of the others anyway synthesis was my choice. Begrudgingly. I wanted a fourth option where, you know, all that "We can overcome our issues WITHOUT the use of giant god machines" wasnt totally proved wrong. The moral of ME3 people. The human spirit is weak and easily destroyed, only with the power of god machines can anyone be in a room for 3 seconds without stabbing eachother. Peace is impossible because we are all stupid and suck. Yayyy. Option 1 you murder all the AI to avoid the tricky notion of making a lasting peace. Option 2 you fuse with the AI, avoiding the need to overcome any differences by just fusing everyone into a conglomerate. Option 3 you enforce peace with giant god machines. There is NO option where, by merit of our own characters, we create peace DESPITE our differences. Which is EVERYTHING, fucking EVERYTHING, Shepard believed in. Its what I believed in :C He said we were strong enough to make our own path and create our own peace. And those endings proved him wrong. We arent strong enough, we are a bunch of warring animals and the star child is right. We are violent and cannot be trusted to control ourselves as long as people who are different exist. We needed help to destroy either the people, the differences or the sense we can fight without being destroyed. And that sucked. It made me very sad. The lesson i was learning throughout the series was empty and hollow. And the series did such a good job teaching the lesson of "Refuse the paths people build for you, build your own instead".

 

[Thomas Barnsley]

I also get kinda passionate about that :/ I think reject is the only valid option that makes any sense at all with regard to everything shepard stands for but thats a discussion for another matter. And since they fudged the refuse ending by making it so the NEXT cycle wins by picking one of the others anyway synthesis was my choice. Begrudgingly. I wanted a fourth option where, you know, all that "We can overcome our issues WITHOUT the use of giant god machines" wasnt totally proved wrong. The moral of ME3 people. The human spirit is weak and easily destroyed, only with the power of god machines can anyone be in a room for 3 seconds without stabbing eachother. Peace is impossible because we are all stupid and suck. Yayyy. Option 1 you murder all the AI to avoid the tricky notion of making a lasting peace. Option 2 you fuse with the AI, avoiding the need to overcome any differences by just fusing everyone into a conglomerate. Option 3 you enforce peace with giant god machines. There is NO option where, by merit of our own characters, we create peace DESPITE our differences. Which is EVERYTHING, fucking EVERYTHING, Shepard believed in. Its what I believed in :C He said we were strong enough to make our own path and create our own peace. And those endings proved him wrong. We arent strong enough, we are a bunch of warring animals and the star child is right. We are violent and cannot be trusted to control ourselves as long as people who are different exist. We needed help to destroy either the people, the differences or the sense we can fight without being destroyed. And that sucked. It made me very sad. The lesson i was learning throughout the series was empty and hollow. And the series did such a good job teaching the lesson of "Refuse the paths people build for you, build your own instead".

I've never really seen it put like that. I'm glad that you've acknowledged that killing all the geth as a finite solution is a bad idea, something which most people disagree with. I also agree that rejection actually makes the most sense; not only that but I think it is actually the most elegant in a way. The final cinematic is well constructed and it feels quite realistic. Despite that, I still wouldn't so it because it basically sucks in the context of the game.
Otherwise I sort of get what you mean. It makes sense. I was just thinking about your feelings about the message though; couldn't you could think of it like the problem is bigger than just humanity, or even the galaxy as a whole. The problem is with life in general. So allying with the Reapers doesn't make the human spirit weak, it makes the spirit of life in general strong.
Do you sort of see what I mean?
See, this is me getting carried away with a fandom.

 

[Fractral]

I got a little annoyed with the type effectiveness changes in the new Pokemon games. Not the addition of fairy so much, but with the steel resistances nerf. It doesn't exactly ruin steel as a defensive type, just make it a whole lot worse (and means that Aegislash is but a shadow of what it could have been).
As for fairies, I kind of like them. I don't think dragon needed a nerf but they make the metagame more interesting, and as someone who uses two Fairies in his competitive team I have to like them.
My friends on the other hand despise the addition of the fairy type, and have sworn never to use a fairy pokemon.

 

[captainballsack]

Shadow of the fucking Colossus.

I'm generally very excited by criticism. I love when someone can show me a eye opening criticism of something I enjoy, because it is the best way to gain a better perspective of what constitutes great games/films/books etc. It means I continue my search to find finer things in literature/media from a much more "tested" point of view.

But if you say one bad thing about Shadow of the Colossus (that isn't about the blatant dehumanization and objectification of Mono and how Wander's journey to save the damsel in distress leads to his self destruction communicating some very questionable themes), I will hunt you to the ends of this earth and scorch everything in my path.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

Mmmmm... I am still a bit pissed about the whole Karen Traviss issue with the Republic Commando/Mandalorian debacle. Her writing was my favorite viewpoint on all that and she ended up quitting due to the Lucas-canon rewriting a lot of her stuff after it was already approved canon. So the whole Commando series ended at 501st with no resolution.
Yeah, still pissed about that. Big time.

 

[PsychicTaco115]

Honestly, I've never really gotten that worked up about anything that much to call myself a "fan" of it

I mean, I like it and all but the moment is fleeting if that makes any sense .-.

But to the people who do all the gay sex in their fandoms... Why?

 

[Alarien]

Mordin Solus.

I am a Mordin Solus F'ing Fanboy.

I dare you to say anything bad about Mordin.

Actually, I'd kinda like to see someone try. It's kinda hard to find something to criticize.

 

[mechalynx]

Mass Effect and Legacy of Kain. I consider LoK to be one of the shining beacons of VA in the gaming industry and story telling in pretty much everything. I can and will get touchy if someone starts tearing into it for no good reason.

Mass Effect. It's been almost 2 years and I am still just as butthurt over how the whole debacle ended, starting with RGB and ending with generally shittier storylines for FemShep.

These days I tend to simply change the subject once anything BioWare/EA comes up in order to avoid bloodshed.

 

[EternallyBored]

Honestly, I've never really gotten that worked up about anything that much to call myself a "fan" of it

I mean, I like it and all but the moment is fleeting if that makes any sense .-.

But to the people who do all the gay sex in their fandoms... Why?

Because women and gay men like porn too, and despite what comedians say, female sexuality isn't nearly as complex or mysterious as we like to think it is. Probably also something to do with so many fictional properties having a majority of male characters, while female characters are either token presences or shallow love interests, so they run with what they've got, and start pairing up the more interesting fleshed out characters. Something similar happens in female heavy shows with large male audiences, a lot of the characters become spontaneous lesbians. Mostly, I just chalk it up to the total lack of same sex relationships in fiction, straight fans are getting their rocks off with sexual fantasies, that doesn't involve the sex they aren't attracted to, and gay fans are just trying to make up for the total wasteland that is homosexual relationships in fiction. There's more to it that that, but that probably covers some of the big reasons anyway.

OT: I used to take World of Warcraft way too seriously, I would get irrationally angry or happy whenever Blizzard made class changes to classes I played. I remember I stopped playing the game for a month after the PvP honor system was released back in vanilla and my main class seemed to be doing extraordinarily poorly in the server rankings for PvP. Of course, MMO balance is an eternally shifting beast, and when I realized that the classes could never be truly balanced for PvP and PvE, I calmed down and started enjoying the game a lot more.

 

[Plasmadamage]

The gaming "fandom" in general if I can get away with that. I think we all take games way too seriously and I, ironically, get very angry when someone's overreacting over something.

I take 343 Industries' complete butchering handling of the Halo series too seriously and I'll admit that. Then again it's not as if my anger is completely unjustified.

Did you think that they were trying to purposefully screw it up? Halo 4 was, of course, a very flawed game compared to the last Halo's. Even 343 admitted it AT LEAST two times. HOWEVER, to say that they did not do their best at the time with what they had (which was rather little for most of the development of the game, actually) is just wrong.

Well, I guess you can count two things I take too seriously now. Halo.

I don't think they're doing it on purpose, I think they're doing it because they're fans, and fans only care about doing the series 'justice'. For the most part they've messed up, and the only thing I'd say was done well was Cortana's rampancy (or at least how it's handled in Halo 4). Those god awful forerunner novels, the terminals in Anniversary and Halo 4 give me enough evidence to not trust them when they say "it'll get better".

Not to be awkward, but what exactly was so bad about the Forerunner Saga, and the terminals? Personally, I thought that they were a pretty nice fleshing out of the universe. The only things that annoyed me about Halo 4 was the fact the Saga was pretty much required reading, and the whole composer thing. It wasn't even needed to explain the presence of enemy forerunners, since they are not only inside a shield world, but near enough immortal inside their armor.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

I admit that I take Bioware/EA hate way too seriously. I get rather annoyed when I see people go into a topic involving Bioware/EA for the purpose of either mentioning how much they hate Mass Effect 3, and are through with the franchise no matter what Bioware says (so why are you reading an article about Mass Effect Next?), or gloating whenever EA has a stock drop (because, you know, having one of the biggest video game companies around go down will only lead to good things, right?)

Do I think EA is perfect? No. Have they made mistakes? Hell to the yeah. Do they deserve the blame for every single thing that goes wrong with any game they publish? Uh, no. Seriously, it seems like being a developer under EA would be great, since you'll get all the credit for a good game and they'll get all the blame for a bad one.

 

[Ipsen]

Have to say I'm a rather egregious fanboy of both ATLUS and just about anything Guild Wars.

Which makes the problems with Guild Wars 2 that much harder to bear.

At least ATLUS has no fault[footnote]Besides forgetting the existance of the EU for a couple of months[/footnote]!

 

[[Kira Must Die]]

The only series that I take seriously is Madoka Magica. I watch it religiously, whether subbed, dubbed, or raw, pick apart every theme and character action, try to experience everything the series has to offer, listen to the soundtrack, read the manga adaptation, read any and every piece of spin-off there is, from manga to drama CDs (waiting for someone to scan and translate Suzune Magica.) I can talk for hours about Madoka.

As for the spin-offs, The Different Story is not only my favorite Madoka spin-off, but my favorite spin-off in general (Although I guess it's more of a side story, though.) We learn more about Mami and Kyouko, and their relationship before the events of the show, but also gives us a new take on the story with Mami playing the lead role, and we are given a much deeper insight into her character. I actually quite liked Oriko Magica, despite it's messy art and other shortcomings, as I really like the idea of it, as well as the additional characters. I have my issues with Kazumi Magica, though. The story was a bit too complicated and hard to follow (Or maybe it's because by the time a new chapter came out, I more or less forget what happened previously), mostly due to the art. While it looks nice, I had a hard time following any of the action scenes, and a lot of the characters looked similar so I had trouble telling who was who. Also, as a fan, I didn't like the designs of the outfits. Madoka Magica's outfits were sleek, tame, very European-influenced, fitting in tone with the style and setting, while still being reminiscent to classic magical girl designs. Even Oriko Magica kept in tone with this. The designs in Kazumi were too flashy, showy, and didn't really fit in with the Madoka universe (And unfortunately, Suzune Magica looks like it suffers from the same problem. The main's outfit looks very similar to Black Rock Shooter's. Hopefully the story makes up for it.) A lot of elements just didn't fit into the Madoka storyline. Also, I thought the ending was fairly anticlimactic. This is probably one of the few cases where I partake in any sort of fanboy complaining (Other than Evangelion 3.0, but that's another story.)

 

[JagermanXcell]

I take Demon's/Dark Souls way too seriously. You'll generally see me defending it's design decisions to the death in any article or thread that it gets brought up in.

I tend to drop kick my monitor when someone brings up Artificial Difficulty as an argument against the Souls games.

I also tend to make sure DmC gets no amount of love, period, whatsoever, at all........ even if the platforming, aesthetics to the environments, and combat were ok.
I just lose my goddamn mind when people say this is the best thing to come out of the series! When has dumbing down what made the originals so great been a good thing? I thought we woke up to all that "broadening of the audience" bullcrap! Then I see people praising DmC to the moon and thinking "ITS A GODDAMN UNINSPIRED PIECE OF CRAP THAT HAS NO SOUL!!!"
Where's the styles? Where's the challenge?! WHERE'D THE FUN GO?! WHY DO PEOPLE DEFEND IT!?!?!?


At least I can rest easy an Uncle Dante fan knowing a sequel to Tameem's fan fiction won't happen.
Thank Sparda Inafune is considering making the real DMC5.

Now with those series of unfortunate events out the window, I'm currently not psychotic over anything with a fanbase. Hopefully it'll stay that way.
Its unhealthy.

 

[[REDACTED]]

Mordin Solus.

I am a Mordin Solus F'ing Fanboy.

I dare you to say anything bad about Mordin.

Actually, I'd kinda like to see someone try. It's kinda hard to find something to criticize.

Uh... the degree to which he is awesome is completely unrealistic?

Yeah, I got nothing. One of my top three favourite video game characters, the other two being Kreia and Clementine.

 

[DaWaffledude]

KOTOR II. Do not get me started on KOTOR friggin' II.

I was typing a rant out, but it's 1:00 in the morning on Christmas Day and quite frankly if I think about the plot of that game for too long I'll be up all night ranting about it to myself.

Suffice it to say, that game and it's adoring fandom Pisses. Me. Off.

 

[Nergui]

While I never took it that seriously, bringing Jellal back as a good guy and a love interest for Erza in Fairy Tail was a horrible move, he was a great villain, but a boring and annoying good guy (its also really annoying how his design is literally recycled from Rave Master, so all I fucking see is Sieghart)

I stopped reading at the end of the Magic Tournament/Return of the Dragons arc, but seriously, Jellal + Erza?

Although not as improbable as Natsu and Lucy getting over the whole brother/sister thing and becoming an item.