Top 5 Friday: Top 5 Worst Videogame Romances

[johnnnny guitar]

Well that was painful to watch I wonder if he can pull a Jim and have me like him eventually I doubt it though.

On the other hand if any of you folks want videos containing Joshua (The dude in this video) that are actually funny.....

 

[likalaruku]

I'm a fan of the Friendzone when it comes to the Mario, Zelda, &Batman, I don't care who the pairing is.

 

[IronMit]

Otacon and Niaomi is MGS4

 

[hazydawn]

So we are in agreement. You see my argument was aimed at that attitude you are presenting. Thinking this awarness as I call it is commmon sense is the high stuck attitude of a self entitled gamer culture who does not reflect upon its own weltanschauung and how it works thus just being arrogant towards anyone who is not that deep into the trenches of gaming culture as oneself and understanding how choices are presented within the nonlinear storytelling of the particular genre we are currently discussing.

In agreement about what exactly. I don't see how I agree with you on anything about the DA romance.
It has nothing to do with how deep you are into gaming. I can only assume you haven't played it yourself or if you did, not went for the Zevran romance. You are ignoring why I said it is so obvious and I won't repeat myself.
Just watch the Zevran romance on Youtube or something. If you really think you have sex with him without knowing that it would come to this it is hopeless to argue with you.

PS: Yeah I later got what you were trying to say myself that's why I edited my post, but you were faster

PPS: Wow you can use Weltanschauung as an English word, even though there is "worldview" guess you never stop learning :0
I'm German myself, that's why it catched my eye.

Edit:

Seeing how someone who says that the escapist is known for witty arguments is himself not that witty it hurts my heart. If you had read the post of me you are quoting from you would know better than to call the relationship of pacman as presented in the video and for the sake of the joke gay. The joke is that Pacman is literaly (look up the word if you dont know the denotation of literal) Ms. Pacman him/herself and not in love with someone else. That is not "homo" that is narcism. Look that word up. I have the suspicion you are not a native speaker and have not that broad of a vocabulary.

Well congratulations for being so witty and arrogant then! You are right I'm not a native speaker and I did misunderstand what he was trying to say about Pacman. Mainly because I never watched Ace Ventura and didn't bother to look up what he meant by that reference. Maybe you should look "literaly" up and discover that it is written "literally", sorry for being a grammar nazi but you come off way to arrogant.
Btw I never said that I think of myself to be witty(god that word starts to sound weird in my head).

 

[Alfador_VII]

Right, I've watched the first 3 to let every presenter have a chance now, and this series is a definite no.

Before I get into the content of the video itself, this series has the lowest production values of anything I've ever seen on the Escapist, and I've been here for years.

On the parts where the host is in front of the standard red background, the aliasing is worse than anything I've seen since the ZX Spectrum. What software are you guys using? because you're definitely not doing it right.

As for this Top 5, the presenter is less awkward than the guy from last week, but as far as I'm concerned none of his attempts at humour worked remotely.

He also comes across as somewhat bigoted if not homophobic.

TLDR: I've given this a fair shot with all 3 hosts, and won't be watching more.

 

[tippy2k2]

Right, I've watched the first 3 to let every presenter have a chance now, and this series is a definite no.

Before I get into the content of the video itself, this series has the lowest production values of anything I've ever seen on the Escapist, and I've been here for years.

On the parts where the host is in front of the standard red background, the aliasing is worse than anything I've seen since the ZX Spectrum. What software are you guys using? because you're definitely not doing it right.

As for this Top 5, the presenter is less awkward than the guy from last week, but as far as I'm concerned none of his attempts at humour worked remotely.

He also comes across as somewhat bigoted if not homophobic.

TLDR: I've given this a fair shot with all 3 hosts, and won't be watching more.

Amen to that. I thought this the first week, actually stated it the second week [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.400571-Top-5-Friday-Top-5-First-Person-Shooters?page=2#16469926], and am now giving up on the series this third week.

Nothing is changing at all with this series. I don't know who these guys are or why their opinion should matter over the millions of other voices out on the internet. The lists have all just been generic and boring. Lastly, the production values look like something I'd expect out of a college project, NOT a group of guys who are actually receiving money to do this. All three presenters stumble over their own words and stand in front of a generic background.

If something changes I might come back eventually but at this point, I'm just going to have to write this video off as a decent try that fell flat until it proves to me otherwise.

 

[Nexxis]

Ellie and Norton -Dead Space 3

Exactly what I was going to say.
God that love triangle was the worst idea anyone can put in a game like Dead Space.

Not to mention .. Ellie was dumbed down into a very stereotypical and unreasonable character. Poor Isaac man.

I agree with you, there. I was kind of surprised that they hooked up to begin with. I know that they've been through a lot in Dead Space 2, but I didn't think that warranted any sort of romance between them. I've heard that there's suppose to be a book that covers the events that happen between the 2nd and 3rd game. Maybe the answers are in there. Otherwise, yeah. I hate that they dumbed her down to generic "love fodder"/"damsel in distress" for Issac.

My own personal vote goes to Ellise & Sonic from Sonic '06. Just ...... no. The "romance" (If you can call it that) was just weak and creepy. I also hate Ellise as a character.

 

[Olas]

I'm always reminded of the same thing when people are naming the worst X ever.


It's one thing to be the supposed best at something because quality is hard to obtain, but mediocrity is easy.

 

[NoTroll]

Not funny, and kind of homophobic. Why is this show on EscapistMagazine, my favourite website?

 

[Fiairflair]

So if someone is against same sex marriage we call them a homophobe. If someone is against cross species marriage we call them a xenophobe. What do we call someone who is against human / robot marriage... and isn't it the same thing as the other two? If you're all about fair sexual preference then what's wrong with Joker and Edi? For that matter, what's wrong with pacman and pacman? Your position makes no sense.

I couldn't agree more. Joshua is a 'creeped out' by Joker and Edi because she hasn't got lady bits? Two characters loving each other enough that physical satisfaction just doesn't seem as important, and this is somehow unromantic? And yeah, what is wrong with pacman and pacman? PacLove power, people!!

 

[Fiairflair]

So if someone is against same sex marriage we call them a homophobe. If someone is against cross species marriage we call them a xenophobe. What do we call someone who is against human / robot marriage... and isn't it the same thing as the other two? If you're all about fair sexual preference then what's wrong with Joker and Edi? For that matter, what's wrong with pacman and pacman? Your position makes no sense.

Cross-species marriage is still a biological relationship, so human/robot marriage/love - especially if you believe in souls - is essentially masturbation but with an interactive object. If you fall in love with a robot you're loving the illusion of a personality and essentially sleeping with a hyper-advanced sex-doll. Once again if you believe in souls and their connection to love, it's only real love if there's a connection in souls so...yeah...

Anyways, as for pacman and ms. pacman, although Dorkly made the drag joke before and Robot Chicken already pointed this out with the Disney crew, it's just sexual narcissism, not a regular same-sex union.

And he said he was cool with same-sex marriage, he never said he wasn't a xenophobe or a robophobe or whatever.

Yes but in the same sense that homophobia is totally not on, it would seem that plenty of people on this forum (such as I) have a problem with xenophobes and robophobes (I love this word) as well.

I didn't quite follow your comment on Pacman but I'd prefer to address Mass Effect. As you say, dualists (people who believe in souls, as distinct from physical bodies) would likely share your expressed view of human-robot relationships. But a monist (such as whoever wrote the whole biotic-synthetic integration plot of ME3) would genuinely ask whether EDI is a person and whether she is really so incapable of romance.

 

[Goliath100]

Escapist, just pull the plug on those guys. This is a "Games-are-art-hippie" side, not a "mainstream" no-depth IGN side. Half the hobby "Listmakers" on Youtube do a better job than this guys.

 

[ZexionSephiroth]

Guys, I hate to say it, but I think Romance is dead.

... And it's not coming back from the grave until we learn exactly what it is we personally need out of our relationships before we pursue them.

Me? I need a girl who can keep me pointed in the right direction. Some kind of leader. One with awe inspiring confidence and determination, and is able to inspire it in me. Preferably able to lead from both the commander's tent and from the head of the army, as a great general and Warrior. And in return, I will be her most Loyal Knight, performing whatever duties she requires of me, and for the most part, working alongside her in the thick of whatever we strive towards.

...

... Doubt that will actually happen though. Regardless of if we're talking metaphorical or Literal...

That stuff just refuses to fly.

Allow me to politely suggest that the problem here may not be with Romance.

...Well, for me the problem isn't romance. But with everyone else, there seems to be problems in that regard.

With me, I suppose I over romanticize the role that my ideal partner would play. But at the same time, it's something I can't change because of the simple fact that even after striping it back a lot, I'm still left needing a partner who is a Leader to make up for my critical lack of direction. And that is something few people seem to have inside them.

It's strange that through an intimate understanding of what makes romance work I seem to have come to the conclusion that I'm going to be forever alone.

While on the other hand, everyone who doesn't understand the core concept of two people playing a much needed role to further each other, and its place in romance... are doomed to have a large number of meaningless relationships.

Go figure.

 

[Diddy_Mao]

Liara and Shephard.

By virtue of not wanting to bone Biotic McPoopy pants or the ship's resident racist I was left with the virginal doe eyed "merely a child by our standards." blue space chick who of course is just super into me for...reasons.

Bleh.

 

[latenightapplepie]

How awkward.
This was an unfunny, dumb mess.

 

[ZexionSephiroth]

Guys, I hate to say it, but I think Romance is dead.

... And it's not coming back from the grave until we learn exactly what it is we personally need out of our relationships before we pursue them.

Me? I need a girl who can keep me pointed in the right direction. Some kind of leader. One with awe inspiring confidence and determination, and is able to inspire it in me. Preferably able to lead from both the commander's tent and from the head of the army, as a great general and Warrior. And in return, I will be her most Loyal Knight, performing whatever duties she requires of me, and for the most part, working alongside her in the thick of whatever we strive towards.

...

... Doubt that will actually happen though. Regardless of if we're talking metaphorical or Literal...

That stuff just refuses to fly.

Allow me to politely suggest that the problem here may not be with Romance.

...Well, for me the problem isn't romance. But with everyone else, there seems to be problems in that regard.

With me, I suppose I over romanticize the role that my ideal partner would play. But at the same time, it's something I can't change because of the simple fact that even after striping it back a lot, I'm still left needing a partner who is a Leader to make up for my critical lack of direction. And that is something few people seem to have inside them.

It's strange that through an intimate understanding of what makes romance work I seem to have come to the conclusion that I'm going to be forever alone.

While on the other hand, everyone who doesn't understand the core concept of two people playing a much needed role to further each other, and its place in romance... are doomed to have a large number of meaningless relationships.

Go figure.

I can only speak for personal experience. However... the ways in which people can compliment and balance out one another are not always the ways that you initially expect, and while not every (or even most) relationship lasts for life, the fact of romance is not made weaker for that fact, and a non-permanent relationship is not the same as a meaningless one. The people that we are with change us, and you might find that someone who pushes you to gain direction could prove to be as valuable a romantic partner as one who leads you.

More importantly, when I look at the people I know, I see an ever-growing number of them falling into relationships that last, and that make them both happy, content, and balanced with one another. I don't see romance dying, I see it thriving.

Is it possible that you have simply reached a stage of life faster than most of your fellows, and are growing cynical waiting for them to catch up? I don't know how old you are, but I have to admit that I'm kind of assuming "early to mid twenties", if only because you sound like me five years ago.

I'm about 19... So you're pretty close.

Anyways, I suppose you're right to say I'm cynical about these things. I feel like I reached a point ages ago where I started to expect proper relationships to be more than just... Whatever it is that people around here are doing when they go out to clubs and gum on each-others mouths.

And somehow, everyone else my age, give or take a year is doing pretty much that: Going out with Girls or Guys just for the carnal experience, or just cause they're friends in some cases. (I've seen a few relationships that look less like love and more like two Best Friends from looking at it.)

Anyways...

As for romantic roles, even if it ends up being something I don't expect, I hardly see it being taken up by any of the girls I've met in real life. It's hard to describe what exactly is wrong with them, but they all seem so... Young... Or Naive... Like they never experienced something that would make them stronger inside, and as such, if they actually experienced it now, they'd break.

"A heart will never be practical, until it can be made unbreakable..." -Wizard of Oz

As for the big question of how many romances I see work or fail... So far, Most of the relationships I've seen in person have rarely even qualified as a relationship, and looked more like a fling.

... Save for one guy other than me it seems... But he seems to frequently get dumped and left wondering what went wrong, while the girls he dates never seem like they cared about the relationship much. And what has he gained from these relationships? Something along the lines of learning not to let that kind of thing bother him... So at this point, he should really be looking for a different kind of relationship, but hasn't figured that out yet.

...

Actually, maybe you're right and it isn't all so clear cut as to whether romance is dead or not.

But either way, I'm still left at a point where I've matured past, or ignored the need for "puppy love" for years, and I'm waiting for one with a strong heart to come along; And yet nobody seems to have that.

Le Sigh.

 

[Warachia]

Cross-species marriage is still a biological relationship, so human/robot marriage/love - especially if you believe in souls - is essentially masturbation but with an interactive object. If you fall in love with a robot you're loving the illusion of a personality and essentially sleeping with a hyper-advanced sex-doll. Once again if you believe in souls and their connection to love, it's only real love if there's a connection in souls so...yeah...

I find this interesting, you say you are fine with a biological relationship, yet seem against a robotic one even though EDI is self-aware (and so is the guy in the video), but say that isn't love, if the only reason he likes characters interacting with other living characters is because they have a body, then that's objectifying them just as much, you aren't in it for the person, you just want their body.