Top ten greatest weapons in history

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fanklok

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Seriously, Katana at #1 and saying it's perfect in every way just makes you look like a troll and/or weaboo, neither of which are a favorable status. Any well made sword can be just as "perfect", a massive part of a swords killability is user skill. A guy with a crowbar can kill a guy with a katana if they don't know what they're doing.
 

loc978

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A katana is just an eastern bastard sword with a really good PR campaign... that said, it's the sword I know best... but still, any of these guys could hand me my ass with their western swords:
 

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Knifewounds said:
#1. The Katana: There is no such greater weapon than that which can feel as an extension of the person who's using it. In that light the katana as a sword, and a weapon is perfection. It has perfect balance, precise control, its has great strength while still being flexible, and its shape, and sharpness combine create a powerful edge. It is every bit a slashing sword as it is a stabbing, and thrusting one. Honestly I believe it is impossible to create a sword as perfect as the katana.
Katana at number one? The Katana is a nice sword, great for swinging attacks, but it hasn't got much penetration ability. I'd suggest that the Damascus Scimitar or the Pattern 1796 Light Cavalry Sabre could easily compete with a Katana.

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Here's my proposed list, anyone can feel free to nit-pick it apart because i do have a few doubts about it.

10)Gladius: Standard Roman infantry weapon which, due to Roman battle formations, gave them a formidable advantage over their barbarian adversaries and helped spread the Roman Empire around Europe. The Gladius also evolved into the Spatha, a weapon from which all straight edged European swords evolved from.

9)Lance-The weapon that made cavalry so effective on the battlefield and marked their domination of medieval warfare- you never wanted to be on the receiving end of a lance.

8)Bayonet-enabled infantry to threaten cavalry charges, marking an end to their reign on the battlefield and a beginning to purely infantry-based combat.

7)Crossbow-Began to make armour redundant, and like the flintlock, halberd and longbow, marked a historical move from cavarly to infantry based warfare were mass peasant armies could match smaller, expensive and highly trained knights.


6)AK47- A relative to the first assault rifle, STG 44, which combined the strengths of sub-machine guns and rifles into one weapon. The Ak47 itself however is effective in that it gave 3rd world military forces a means of realistically opposing 1st world armies and an ability to kill one another in a modern fashion.

5)Maxim Machine Gun- First effective machine gun, ended era of mass-infantry/cavalry charges, turning combat into something more recognisable today.

4)Longbow-Again, allowed peasants to slaughter highly skilled knights at a distance- similar in effect to the halberd.

3)Halberd- A versatile weapon which enabled infantrymen to get the better of knights in battle, a mark on the road towards infantry-based warfare.

2)Flintlock's- Slow to reload and very inaccurate, but none the less revolutionary as it heralded the era of infantry armed with firearms and mass national armies.

1)Cannon- Made castles obsolete, breaking the stalemate in medieval warfare which castles had produced allowing for major conflicts in the early modern period to shape world history.
 

SimuLord

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The appearance of the M1911A1 on your list shows that you are no fool. I'm tremendously fond of the M3 Grease Gun m'self, that thing was a honey of an SMG.
 

Double A

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Katana-wielders can still lose to people wielding western swords. Damascus Steel in particular will shatter many a katana.

And aren't bombers, battleships, and tanks weapons? I would also consider nuclear missiles to be weapons, and nothing can beat one of those, save flying a plane into one (which would be pretty damn lucky, considering how fast they travel).
 

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loc978 said:
A katana is just an eastern bastard sword with a really good PR campaign... that said, it's the sword I know best... but still, any of these guys could hand me my ass with their western swords:
I've always thought European martial arts where much more beautiful (and functional) than their Eastern counterparts.

I wouldn't put a katana at the number one spot. They didn't even actually see that much real use on the battlefield, and a guy with a sabre will beat out a guy with a katana every time.

I would put the Browning Hi-Power in the number one spot. It opened the way for every modern gun.
 

Jellly

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Hmm I was going into this thread thinking that it was going to be a stupid list like:

1. nukez
2. NUKZ!
3. Ninjaszzzz

or some crap like that. Pleasantly surprised :) Nice read and informative.
 

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I would have placed the crossbow higher on the list. It was condemned by the pope at one point because of how lethal it is. Also, if you've got a crossbow, you can probably take down the guy with the katana and the halberd.
 

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I would have placed the crossbow higher on the list. It was condemned by the pope at one point because of how lethal it is. Also, if you've got a crossbow, you can probably take down the guy with the katana and the halberd.
The lethality wasn't the issue the Pope had with the crossbow (as weapons go, it's slow-firing and doesn't hold a candle to a longbow for penetrative power.) The problem, as the Pope saw it, was that now ordinary commoners could be put on an equal footing with armored sergeants and mounted knights, and the idea of the nobility and peasantry being equal was quite disgusting to the Church---after all, once you give a peasant an idea that he's got power, he might get it in his head to learn to read and challenge the clergy as well!

The lesson, as always? Rich and powerful people are complete fuckwads when it comes to their fellow man and a few crossbow bolts to level the playing field can only be a good thing.
 

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#10. The crossbow:
Naw. The longbow was better, it allowed for faster, more accurate shots, and it's what won Britain many battles in the 100 years war.

#9. Bowie Knife:
Agree with this, can't beat a good old knife.

#8. M1911A1: its recoil hinders its accuracy which bumps it down several notches.
The recoil of the 1911 is less than a glock shooting the same caliber.

#7.Thompson Submachine Gun:
Talking about recoil, this thing kick like a mule. It's really quite heavy as well. Good placement though

#6. The Halberd:
Good choice, but I would have to go with the Shaolin Spade instead, combed the ideas of the Halberd into a more maneuverable package.

#5. M1 Garand:
While this does deserve it's place in any top 10's list, I don't really agree that it belongs this high. I think the Sturmgewehr 44 deserves this spot as it really is the grandfather to most of today's assault rifles.

#4. RPG7
Yes, it is a useful anti-tank weapon, but the problem is that you have to be quite close. The small fins on the projectile itself don't really help in keeping it going straight and it will shoot off into random tangents. Many of them are also duds, not exploding when they hit something, or even not even firing out of the tube.

3#. Bow & Arrow:
I have to disagree with you here. I think this spot goes to the Browning M2. That's been in service since WWII, is extremely reliable, and it fires a .50caliber round. They were mounted on tanks, planes, jeeps, IFV's, and they're still used on tanks and many vehicles.

#2. AK47:
I don't think that the AK-47 even deserves to be in the upper 6. Yes, it is reliable and easily used, but it's unwieldy, unbalanced, and it's hard to control. There are only a couple of reasons AK is seen as good. One is because the USSR sent out boatloads of them to any country claiming to be communist and against America. Another is because it's so close to breaking constantly that it never actually does break from exposure. It does constantly misfire and jam. The last is because it can be cleaned easily, but it never needs to be cleaned. This is both good and bad. If it's never cleaned, it misfires more often. However, most people that use them don't actually know how to clean it. They know how to take apart the receivers, and that's about it.

#1. The Katana:
If you're going for the whole "extension of the body" thing, why not go all out and say what many military special forces say. Your own body, once properly trained, is the most lethal weapon in all of history. A well trained, determined man, can overpower any foe 9 times out of 10, and for the other time, there's automatic rifles.

OT: My list:
#10 The longbow
#9: The Bowie Knife
#8 The Thompson
#7 The 1911
#6 The Shaolin Spade
#5 The Sturmgewehr 44
#4 The GAU-8 or the M134 Minigun
#3 The Browning M2
#2 The AR-15 platform (if maintained)
#1 Your own Body

Reasons for #2, (because I know someone is going to say that AR-15's are shit)
The AR-15 platform is an amazing system. However, because of the first few months of fielding in Vietnam, it is seen as a jam-o-matic. The only reason was because the troops never cleaned it. It was sold to the U.S. army as a "self-cleaning firearm." That will never exist until we figure out how to speed projectiles faster than the speed of light without the use of gunpowder of any kind. If you properly maintain and lubricate the AR-15, it will never jam on you. My AR-15 has upwards of 20,000 rounds through it, and it's never jammed once. Why? Because I clean it every month, every time I shoot it, and I keep it well lubed. I also use good ammunition, none of that Wolf crap. It is more of a rifle than the AK-47, which is seem more as a machine gun than a rifle, and it can provide tighter groupings than it's counterpart. It is extremely adaptable for any mission you put it through as well.
 

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Why am I not on the list? Have you seen Rambo? That's about me.

Seriously though, as others have stated the katana is over rated.
 

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bl4ckh4wk64 said:
#8. M1911A1: its recoil hinders its accuracy which bumps it down several notches.
The recoil of the 1911 is less than a glock shooting the same caliber.
The Plastic Fantastic is a piece of shit. If I'm picking a sidearm, the Glock 9mm is WAY down the list of guns I'd choose.
 

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SimuLord said:
bl4ckh4wk64 said:
#8. M1911A1: its recoil hinders its accuracy which bumps it down several notches.
The recoil of the 1911 is less than a glock shooting the same caliber.
The Plastic Fantastic is a piece of shit. If I'm picking a sidearm, the Glock 9mm is WAY down the list of guns I'd choose.
Yea, I was trying to provide an example of how little recoil the 1911 actually has. Not sure if it got through tough. Glocks are pieces of temperamental crap and I would rather use a pencil to defend myself than a glock. If given the choice, I'd go with the Sig P226.
 

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Knifewounds said:
#5. M1 Garand: ........ The Garand could essentially do everything an infantryman needed during the time of WWII.
Not 100% true. While the Garand was a great weapon, the M1 Carbine essentially replaced the Garand in terms of importance and became the most produced small arms weapon in American history. The Garand was too heavy for most troops that weren't on the front lines, and these "second-line" infantrymen were left with pistols. Winchester used Carbine Williams suggestions and placed a short-stroke piston system in place. The guns weighed under 6 pounds, were semi-automatic, and had great power and accuracy. MacArthur even accredited the guns for being a huge factor in the win in the Pacific.
Not so. The M1 Carbine was less accurate than the Garand, mainly because of its light weight. The weight wasn't really too much, seeing as how it was the standard service rifle, so it obviously wasn't phased out by a lighter weapon. Plus, the .30 Carbine is considerably less powerful than the full .30-06, though the Carbine did have some use for the Pacific War, where more compact guns were helpful, as well as in the hands of airborne troops.
 

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I'm sorry,but the pike would take #1.
It's so simple,a modern rugby player can pick it up and use it effectively.
If a trained soldier picked one up,every hostile within it's (considerable) reach would be dead.
 

SimuLord

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bl4ckh4wk64 said:
SimuLord said:
bl4ckh4wk64 said:
#8. M1911A1: its recoil hinders its accuracy which bumps it down several notches.
The recoil of the 1911 is less than a glock shooting the same caliber.
The Plastic Fantastic is a piece of shit. If I'm picking a sidearm, the Glock 9mm is WAY down the list of guns I'd choose.
Yea, I was trying to provide an example of how little recoil the 1911 actually has. Not sure if it got through tough. Glocks are pieces of temperamental crap and I would rather use a pencil to defend myself than a glock. If given the choice, I'd go with the Sig P226.
I'm just glad nobody in this thread has yet mentioned "the .44 Magnum. It'll take a man's head clean off." Because to do so would be to openly admit all you know about firearms you know from movies and/or video games.

Although I do love the Smith&Wesson Model 29 (the gun in question), that thing's not for novice shooters, and unless you have the strength of Hercules you're not shooting that fucker from the hip.
 

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Since no one else has shown us this...how about this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Pata-1-Archit-Patel.jpg
It's a sword, that you wear like a glove...
AWESOME!
 

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I noticed as couple factual discrepancies, and I want to make sure they are addressed.

For #10, I believe you confused the crossbow with the longbow. The crossbow was a complex, expensive, and hard to use weapon. Just reloading it required exact form and a huge amount of upper and lower body strength. It was usually only used by expensive, well trained mercenaries who could actually hit a moving target with it. The longbow, on the other hand, could be used by people ranging from a peasant to a trained archer. The arrows used by long bowmen had a long, dense tip that could rip through armor, essentially making knights and plate armor obsolete.

For #9, the bowie knife could be used for a decapitation, but it requires a lot of skill and you run the risk of losing the knife if it gets stuck in the person's spinal column. A much more common, and gruesome, strategy was to stab the opponent in the gut and, using the curved end, drag the blade down, disemboweling them.

For #5, you forgot to mention the M1's biggest fault; the way it ejected the empty clips. After the last shot was fired, the entire clip would fly out of the gun, making a very loud, very obvious PING. This sound led to the death of many American troops (the sound was basically an announcement saying "My clip is out, so come shoot me."), but was eventually turned into an advantage. American troops would throw an empty clip on the ground, which would make the same sound as the empty clip leaving the gun. This would cause enemy troops to pop out of cover and taken out by an M1 with a full clip.