Torture and Morality

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Jedoro

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MaxTheReaper said:
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Torture is inefficient because the tortured might say anything to get it to stop, and if bad enough, he or (God forbid) she might believe it themselves, thus removing your chance to get the truth.
Why is it worse to torture a girl?
Females are not inherently delicate flowers.

But you are right - torture is pretty much useless for information gathering, because anyone who has nails in each knucklebone is going to say anything to get the pain to stop.
No "might" about it.

Now, that being said, I personally have no problem if you're torturing someone for another reason - like revenge.
Or, if you wish "for justice."
After all, there are some times where you're justified in doing horrific things to horrific people.
Well, when torturing someone for revenge or justice, it's not really torture, it's punishment. That's how I see the difference, anyways, and punishment is A-OK with me.

And I know females aren't delicate flowers, but the tattered remains of chivalry inside me would make me cringe while I tortured a woman. I mean, I would do it, but it would definitely hurt me on the inside.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
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Well, when torturing someone for revenge or justice, it's not really torture, it's punishment. That's how I see the difference, anyways, and punishment is A-OK with me.

And I know females aren't delicate flowers, but the tattered remains of chivalry inside me would make me cringe while I tortured a woman. I mean, I would do it, but it would definitely hurt me on the inside.
Fair enough.
I don't tend to treat people differently when it comes to things like beatings based on sex or color or size - if someone has earned hurting, they have earned hurting.
Of course, they're gonna get what they deserve:
-Evil man tied to a chair, and I have a bat, he gets a hit upside the head
-Evil woman tied to said chair, and I have said bat, she gets said hit upside the head, but I'll likely close my eyes before contact
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
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Of course, they're gonna get what they deserve:
-Evil man tied to a chair, and I have a bat, he gets a hit upside the head
-Evil woman tied to said chair, and I have said bat, she gets said hit upside the head, but I'll likely close my eyes before contact
*Sigh* Teacher always said we had to make allowances for the weakness of others...
I made an "allowance" about his allergy to bullets.
Now open your eyes and do it properly this time!
Or this adorable kitten gets it!
I call your bluff, good sir. You wouldn't dare hurt that kitteh!
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
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I call your bluff, good sir. You wouldn't dare hurt that kitteh!
Thaaaat was a mistake.

While I would normally never hurt an adorable kitten, I cannot abide being told what I will and will not do.
No, don't hurt it! I just meant I didn't think you would, please don't hurt the kitty because of me...
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
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No, don't hurt it! I just meant I didn't think you would, please don't hurt the kitty because of me...
Too bad.
Live with its blood on your hands!
...I may have to live with its blood on my hands, but you're standing there with its body in yours.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
Trust me, I'm used to stashing bodies.
All of my friends are girls.

This happens to me a lot.
Wait a minute, so are all of your friends girls because you have had to stash the bodies, or are you used to stashing bodies because your friends are girls?
tayla_88 said:
Also, holy crap. 12 posts made while I was typing, and that evidently means I was at it for 4 hours or so... X( I really need to get a life, eh? And again, I didn't intend to be rude, but I know I can get pretty mean in this sort of thread, so... sorry again.

PS: And... This is the part where I realize I just replied to a 2 year old post, and that I look like a complete ass. If I hadn't spent so much time on that post, I'd just clear it and stick in a lolcat pic or something. (dunno if I can do that. don't think so.)
Welcome to The Escapist, and yes, you can stick a lolcat picture up, if it pertains to the subject, i.e. no "I Can Haz Cheezburger?" picture on a thread about torture.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
I do believe you are catching on.
Yes. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitle3zaap0y7ym6o?from=Main.MathematiciansAnswer]
Well, I understand what you mean now, but I'm sad because I can't think of a clever reply.

And that dead kitty in your hand isn't helping.