Total War Warhammer 2: Gameplay teaser and other news.

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Also the game has a confirmed release date, September 28 this year.

And the game is already avaliable for Pre Order.

And there is a Pre Order incentive that apperently you will get a New Faction/Race Pack for the FIRST game.

Along with other news of the Old Friend Free DLC and such.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:

Also the game has a confirmed release date, September 28 this year.

And the game is already avaliable for Pre Order.

And there is a Pre Order incentive that apperently you will get a New Faction/Race Pack for the FIRST game.

Along with other news of the Old Friend Free DLC and such.
Nice to have a release date. It would be nice to know what the Old Friend DLC is. They've left it too long now, whatever it is will be dissappointing.
 

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Here Comes Tomorrow said:
Samtemdo8 said:

Also the game has a confirmed release date, September 28 this year.

And the game is already avaliable for Pre Order.

And there is a Pre Order incentive that apperently you will get a New Faction/Race Pack for the FIRST game.

Along with other news of the Old Friend Free DLC and such.
Nice to have a release date. It would be nice to know what the Old Friend DLC is. They've left it too long now, whatever it is will be dissappointing.
I was more shocked at the release date because I was expecting November/December at the earliest, and March at the latest.

They better show off the Dark Elves and Skaven sooner then.
 

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im really looking forward to to linking the games personally and having a huge campaign
 

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Sync kills. Nifty.

I hope they back-patch them for units in the first game too.

pookie101 said:
im really looking forward to to linking the games personally and having a huge campaign
I dunno. It sounds good in theory, but then I thought about it for five seconds.

In my experience campaigns would peak about 30% of the way through and from then on it was mostly just a long slog of auto-resolved sieges to the finish line. Extending that slog to another entire continent doesn't strike me as an improvement.
 

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Zhukov said:
Sync kills. Nifty.

I hope they back-patch them for units in the first game too.

pookie101 said:
im really looking forward to to linking the games personally and having a huge campaign
I dunno. It sounds good in theory, but then I thought about it for five seconds.

In my experience campaigns would peak about 30% of the way through and from then on it was mostly just a long slog of auto-resolved sieges to the finish line. Extending that slog to another entire continent doesn't strike me as an improvement.
guess im missing the multi continent conquests of empire :)
 

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pookie101 said:
Zhukov said:
Sync kills. Nifty.

I hope they back-patch them for units in the first game too.

pookie101 said:
im really looking forward to to linking the games personally and having a huge campaign
I dunno. It sounds good in theory, but then I thought about it for five seconds.

In my experience campaigns would peak about 30% of the way through and from then on it was mostly just a long slog of auto-resolved sieges to the finish line. Extending that slog to another entire continent doesn't strike me as an improvement.
guess im missing the multi continent conquests of empire :)
You forgot having to sit and wait for 3 minutes while the AI has its turns. It'll be even worse after the thirds game campaugn is added and you're waiting 5 minutes.
 

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Here Comes Tomorrow said:
pookie101 said:
Zhukov said:
Sync kills. Nifty.

I hope they back-patch them for units in the first game too.

pookie101 said:
im really looking forward to to linking the games personally and having a huge campaign
I dunno. It sounds good in theory, but then I thought about it for five seconds.

In my experience campaigns would peak about 30% of the way through and from then on it was mostly just a long slog of auto-resolved sieges to the finish line. Extending that slog to another entire continent doesn't strike me as an improvement.
guess im missing the multi continent conquests of empire :)
You forgot having to sit and wait for 3 minutes while the AI has its turns. It'll be even worse after the thirds game campaugn is added and you're waiting 5 minutes.
i played pride of nations...the grand campaign was 1780 turns with 5-10 minutes waiting for the AI.. i dont think anyone has ever completed the grand campaign of that
 

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Here Comes Tomorrow said:
It would be nice to know what the Old Friend DLC is. They've left it too long now, whatever it is will be dissappointing.
My bet is that it's just Krell, Heinrich Kemmler's BFF [http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Krell] that was conspicuously absent from the game.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
And there is a Pre Order incentive that apperently you will get a New Faction/Race Pack for the FIRST game
Of course there fuckng is....why stop with Chaos?

And just announce Skaven already FFS.
 

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erttheking said:
Samtemdo8 said:
And there is a Pre Order incentive that apperently you will get a New Faction/Race Pack for the FIRST game
Of course there fuckng is....why stop with Chaos?

And just announce Skaven already FFS.
So far people think its either:

Dogs of War Mercanaries.

Norsca (there is a differnce between Warriors of Chaos and the Chaos Vikings in Norsca)

Or Skaven playable in the Old World in Skavenblight.

But seriously none of these things were like ChaosWarriors where they removed from the first game to sell it as DLC.

Again this is new content for the FIRST game. And in my case I already Pre-Ordered the game because I have been saving money for it.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
erttheking said:
Samtemdo8 said:
And there is a Pre Order incentive that apperently you will get a New Faction/Race Pack for the FIRST game
Of course there fuckng is....why stop with Chaos?

And just announce Skaven already FFS.
So far people think its either:

Dogs of War Mercanaries.

Norsca (there is a differnce between Warriors of Chaos and the Chaos Vikings in Norsca)

Or Skaven playable in the Old World in Skavenblight.

But seriously none of these things were like ChaosWarriors where they removed from the first game to sell it as DLC.

Again this is new content for the FIRST game. And in my case I already Pre-Ordered the game because I have been saving money for it.
How would Dogs Of War work? Just roam the world using the Diplomacy menu to ally with people then play as reinforce them during battles? Limit their stacks to 10 units so every battle they participate in isn't a total walkover?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
So far people think its either:

Dogs of War Mercanaries.

Norsca (there is a differnce between Warriors of Chaos and the Chaos Vikings in Norsca)

Or Skaven playable in the Old World in Skavenblight.

But seriously none of these things were like ChaosWarriors where they removed from the first game to sell it as DLC.

Again this is new content for the FIRST game. And in my case I already Pre-Ordered the game because I have been saving money for it.
Yeah, new content that you have to pledge sixty fucking dollars in order to get. Fuck that noise, doubly so after the first game tried to charge its asking price all over again in the fucking splurge of DLC that it had. And you may need to do this to play as Skaven in the old world? I repeat. Fuck that noise.
 

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erttheking said:
Samtemdo8 said:
So far people think its either:

Dogs of War Mercanaries.

Norsca (there is a differnce between Warriors of Chaos and the Chaos Vikings in Norsca)

Or Skaven playable in the Old World in Skavenblight.

But seriously none of these things were like ChaosWarriors where they removed from the first game to sell it as DLC.

Again this is new content for the FIRST game. And in my case I already Pre-Ordered the game because I have been saving money for it.
Yeah, new content that you have to pledge sixty fucking dollars in order to get. Fuck that noise, doubly so after the first game tried to charge its asking price all over again in the fucking splurge of DLC that it had. And you may need to do this to play as Skaven in the old world? I repeat. Fuck that noise.
Oh don't be such a stingy Mr Krabs, if you really wannt it than get it, what do you have to lose?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
erttheking said:
Samtemdo8 said:
So far people think its either:

Dogs of War Mercanaries.

Norsca (there is a differnce between Warriors of Chaos and the Chaos Vikings in Norsca)

Or Skaven playable in the Old World in Skavenblight.

But seriously none of these things were like ChaosWarriors where they removed from the first game to sell it as DLC.

Again this is new content for the FIRST game. And in my case I already Pre-Ordered the game because I have been saving money for it.
Yeah, new content that you have to pledge sixty fucking dollars in order to get. Fuck that noise, doubly so after the first game tried to charge its asking price all over again in the fucking splurge of DLC that it had. And you may need to do this to play as Skaven in the old world? I repeat. Fuck that noise.
Oh don't be such a stingy Mr Krabs, if you really wannt it than get it, what do you have to lose?
Nice counter-argument. Instead of finding a way to tell me how pre-order bonuses aren't a fucking poisonous practice, nor how the first game didn't blow its load all over the wall, just insult me. What do I have to lose? More money than its actually worth, that's what I have to fucking lose. The first Total War Warhammer is a good game. It is not worth 120 motherfucking bucks. If I didn't get it via Humble Bundle monthly, I'd feel highly ripped off, and I still don't have Chaos, Beastmen or Wood Elves, something that makes the game feel incomplete every single fucking time I open it.
 

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erttheking said:
Samtemdo8 said:
erttheking said:
Samtemdo8 said:
So far people think its either:

Dogs of War Mercanaries.

Norsca (there is a differnce between Warriors of Chaos and the Chaos Vikings in Norsca)

Or Skaven playable in the Old World in Skavenblight.

But seriously none of these things were like ChaosWarriors where they removed from the first game to sell it as DLC.

Again this is new content for the FIRST game. And in my case I already Pre-Ordered the game because I have been saving money for it.
Yeah, new content that you have to pledge sixty fucking dollars in order to get. Fuck that noise, doubly so after the first game tried to charge its asking price all over again in the fucking splurge of DLC that it had. And you may need to do this to play as Skaven in the old world? I repeat. Fuck that noise.
Oh don't be such a stingy Mr Krabs, if you really wannt it than get it, what do you have to lose?
Nice counter-argument. Instead of finding a way to tell me how pre-order bonuses aren't a fucking poisonous practice, nor how the first game didn't blow its load all over the wall, just insult me. What do I have to lose? More money than its actually worth, that's what I have to fucking lose. The first Total War Warhammer is a good game. It is not worth 120 motherfucking bucks. If I didn't get it via Humble Bundle monthly, I'd feel highly ripped off, and I still don't have Chaos, Beastmen or Wood Elves, something that makes the game feel incomplete every single fucking time I open it.
The DLCs were not release until after the game launched, you have no one else to blame but yourself for not buying it at launch beofre all the DLC accumalated. And the DLC was expected. I bought each as they released because I had new money to spend and there wasn't any other game that interested me at the time.

And you also have to consider that the DLC factions were litirally built from scratch, that means brand new voice file, new original models, skeletons, animations, and textures, and all of that in this day and age of gaming is expensive.

And again if you really want the DLC to make the game feel complete than buy it. Either wait for a sale or buy them individually each time you get paid. However it is you make your money.

And lastly your prefernce. Do you like the Beastmen, Wood Elves, and Chaos Warriors enough to play them?
 

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So I should've bought it right away while the price was still high? And that would've done what to stop the game from feeling incomplete when the floodgates opened? All that could do for me is give me a month or two of blissful ignorance. Except Chaos would've still been there and I would be down forty-eight bucks. Hey? Sametemdo? My money situation is not your money situation. And even if it was, the problem is not that I can't afford it, it's that the concept of DLC this much and this expensive in a full price game pisses me the fuck off and makes it feel like the developer is trying to fuck me.

Struggling to care. I don't care if the Wood Elves were built from scratch, they were not worth nearly a third of the game's base price. And, somehow, they were able to find the Infinity Gauntlet and release Bretonia for free, so I get the feeling these people can release content for free. When they're not charging for fucking gore.

Oh yes, let me just piss away forty bucks just like that. Actually I think I won't do that. Because I, as a concept, am not paying that much money for a single game and I'd appreciate it if you would stop acting like I should just shut up and buy everything. It's how Creative Assembly makes their money, and they already got money from me, so I'd appreciate it if they stopped trying to constantly suck it out of my wallet. Stellaris manages to release content packs in reasonably priced amounts AND have massive free updates. I'd like to know what it is they do that Total fucking War can't.
 

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erttheking said:
Samtemdo8 said:
erttheking said:
Samtemdo8 said:
So far people think its either:

Dogs of War Mercanaries.

Norsca (there is a differnce between Warriors of Chaos and the Chaos Vikings in Norsca)

Or Skaven playable in the Old World in Skavenblight.

But seriously none of these things were like ChaosWarriors where they removed from the first game to sell it as DLC.

Again this is new content for the FIRST game. And in my case I already Pre-Ordered the game because I have been saving money for it.
Yeah, new content that you have to pledge sixty fucking dollars in order to get. Fuck that noise, doubly so after the first game tried to charge its asking price all over again in the fucking splurge of DLC that it had. And you may need to do this to play as Skaven in the old world? I repeat. Fuck that noise.
Oh don't be such a stingy Mr Krabs, if you really wannt it than get it, what do you have to lose?
Nice counter-argument. Instead of finding a way to tell me how pre-order bonuses aren't a fucking poisonous practice, nor how the first game didn't blow its load all over the wall, just insult me. What do I have to lose? More money than its actually worth, that's what I have to fucking lose. The first Total War Warhammer is a good game. It is not worth 120 motherfucking bucks. If I didn't get it via Humble Bundle monthly, I'd feel highly ripped off, and I still don't have Chaos, Beastmen or Wood Elves, something that makes the game feel incomplete every single fucking time I open it.
But it's not $120, foryou it was $12 + optional investments of $10/$20 which you have chosen not to make.

If they released all the DLC at release and you bought it all at once then you might have a point (aside from the Chaos one which WAS bullshit). The main faction DLCs came out like a month or two after the main game with a month or two between them. When you buy your groceries you don't add your last months groceries onto the total cost. It's not hard to save up $20 in two months for most people.

Edit: You're probably typing a super angry reply right now so you likely won't see this, but your one-man crusade against CA's DLC won't make any difference because I'm going to unapologetically pre-order this and buy all the DLC because I love WHFB and The Old World. I got it in the Humble Bundle sale as well because I'd never played a Total War game before so I wasn't sure if I'd like it and didn't want to drop 50 euros on it (because I don't have a lot of money). But thankfully I loved it and I love all the DLC even though I'm not a big fan of any of the races (I played Skaven, Ogres, Bretonnia and Daemons).

So yeah, I'll buy their game and their DLC at launch. You can sit in your armchair and quietly seethe at me for having no empty slots on my Faction choice menu but I'll be happy getting my fix of The Old World and having fun.
 

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The game is asking for 120 bucks. Don't try and weasel out of it. You say optional like the developers aren't try and pressure customers into spending even more money on a game that they already fucking bought.

Video games are not groceries. They are not perishables. When you buy a bag of apples from work, the grocery store does not release an attachment for those apples that it that make the bag of apples feel incomplete. Also, once again, Stellaris has massive free content updates that put Warhammer to fucking shame. Creative Assembly's display here is nothing short of fucking pathetic.

You and Samtemdo may just ok with ignoring or downplaying how Warhammer has been DLCed to death, but I'm not, so kindly stop jumping on me for not being happy with Creative Assembly trying to milk a game I really like to death.
 

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erttheking said:
Here Comes Tomorrow said:
The game is asking for 120 bucks. Don't try and weasel out of it. You say optional like the developers aren't try and pressure customers into spending even more money on a game that they already fucking bought.

Video games are not groceries. They are not perishables. When you buy a bag of apples from work, the grocery store does not release an attachment for those apples that it that make the bag of apples feel incomplete. Also, once again, Stellaris has massive free content updates that put Warhammer to fucking shame. Creative Assembly's display here is nothing short of fucking pathetic.

You and Samtemdo may just ok with ignoring or downplaying how Warhammer has been DLCed to death, but I'm not, so kindly stop jumping on me for not being happy with Creative Assembly trying to milk a game I really like to death.
You call it milking to death I call it post launch support. More content, more factions, more units, updates and bug fixes.

Seriously you are complaining about new content for a game. The only thing I can't argue with you is pricing of the content because at this point its subjective. IMO I don't think its that expensive compared to the tabletop game or other Games with worse DLC whoring (Free to Play/Pay to Win games)