TotalBiscuit's very strange behavior in this Vlog video....

[Targ0]

Well, this discussion about TB and his attitude towards his viewers turns up again and again. Basically TB has a way to perceive insults where most others see none. Not every non-constructive criticism is meant as an insult. It may not be helpful, but that doesn't make it aggressive or harmful. More often than not people just want to be right about something. That doesn't mean a video sucks and has to be redone or that TB has done poor research. It may just be a remark people want to get out, just for the sake of it.

The problem is that TB's behavior puts a lot of people off. Whenever TB replies to comments, he's basically communicating with his customers. And the way he does it seems to be harmful towards his business. There are a lot of people who complain about TB's behavior, this happens time and time again.
But TB seems to want to "educate" people, because in his mind he is doing nothing wrong. It's a shame, really, because the content he provides is really good, he gives extensive explanations, states his reasons for his statements and offers a lot of insight in general.

 

[wulf3n]

This was posted in response to your Content Patch #18 regarding the Humble Amnesia Fortnight. Keeping in mind that my contribution to the discussion was erased with my being blocked, I'll post the actual quote (since it's stuck in my mind and all) here in spoiler tags. Also my apologies, he did mention you (though not in a negative way) and your response was "Man up baby," not "Grow up baby."

Spoiler

Karl Ramstedt
TB, you missed that they changed the amount of prototypes to 5 from 4. That means that Black Lake is also being made!

TotalHalibut
I am not a time traveller

MrPlayerofgames
Where's the need man? That guy was just trying to be nice and you replied like a major douche...

TotalHalibut
Man up baby

ti1tus
Why are you so hostile? You don't usually seem like somebody who answers helpful comments like that.

Mjolnir258
For all his talk of wanting the comment section to be a cool place, his own commenting leaves a lot to be desired. If I didn't know any better i'd think there's some dude with a similar name trolling to his hearts content.

TotalHalibut
The comment section would be a cooler place if people stopped getting offended at EVERYTHING I SAY.
This happens everywhere, it's the root of ALL drama. It's why the WoW forums sucked, it's why the comments section sucks, a bunch of prissy easily-offended bleedinghearts derail EVERY discussion because they find something to take offense to and once that happens, GG, discussion is over.
Why the fuck would you sub to this channel if you couldn't deal with sarcasm and cynicism aye? I wonder

inferno232
You have a point if they're getting offended at, say, the fact you think their favorite video game sucks. Yeah, that's stupid as hell and those people don't really matter. But when you treat a guy like a dick because he's trying to point a simple bit of news out (he didn't say, "CHANGE YOUR VIDEO TB"), it makes sense that the guy's a bit surprised and upset.
It's the difference between throwing a fit over an opinion and being upset one of your favorite content creators decided to flip you off.

TotalHalibut
Nobody treated him like a dick, NOBODY.
Fucking reality man, such a ***** when trying to get upset over nothing, but I guess ignoring it is a way around tht.

That's four different viewers (and many more not included) offering you some valid criticism about how you treat people. I don't think that I'm going out on a limb when I indicate that you didn't handle the criticism quite like you suggested in your vlog.

I don't see this as a case of TB being unable to accept criticism.

The first poster tried to point out something that was apparently "missed", with TB's response indicating it wasn't missed, rather it hadn't happened at the time of the video, at which point the next user overreacts and begins insulting TB. Understandably TB reacts accordingly with "Man up baby" which is quite tame compared to being called a "major douche".

And then everyone acts as though TB went mental.

I quite like the line

Why the fuck would you sub to this channel if you couldn't deal with sarcasm and cynicism aye?

He is called the Cynical Brit for a reason.

Now if you want an example of the inability to handle criticism, take a gander at youtube and the Issue between Clevernoob and Smudboy, In which Clevernoob has used underhanded tactics to have all criticism of one his videos removed, Going so far as to have videos taken down on several sites including Youtube and Vimeo under false pretences.

 

[ramboondiea]

is this thread still going? i wouldn't think it was that controversial of a topic?

oh-well, i saw the video, whats wrong with asking for a feedback on low views? he runs a business, hes a job provider he needs to ensure his income?

i also dont see where all the TB hate comes from? i mean do people actually know him? has he done unscrupulous things with peoples mothers or something? yeah he can come of as a bit of a dick sometime, he aint a saint, who is? i mean its not like he doesn't accept criticism, he has changed his channel several times to match the general consensus, such as dropping shows and changing how he goes about content, he just doesn't cater to every individual whim,

he also appears to just not people who trying to impose there personally fancy or just flat out insult him, and considering that is a daily thing for the guy i wouldn't be surprised if he is high strung.

so yeah he can come of as a bit of a dick, but he seems well informed and he is trying to run a successful business, cant fault a guy for that

 

[BrotherRool]

I don't have any influence over what people do, but I'm going to put it out there, that maybe this thread is no longer doing anyone any good.

 

[Susan Arendt]

Erm...bit of a whiny git, isn't he?

How so? By asking for honest feedback when he sees views drop drastically? I don't think that's whiny, it's pretty smart actually considering the money he laid out to go to PAX.

Asking for feedback is one thing - obsessively listing how many views all the other videos got is another. It's perfectly reasonable to say "Hey, doesn't look like you guys enjoyed that, so what *would* you like?" but that's not his approach at all.

Wow.

"Obsessively listing."

Susan, I feel like I understand that your personality is highly infused with hyperbole, but it also seems to me that you mean this literally...so I am both disappointed and slightly saddened at this time.

I would posit that (in your example) TotalBiscuit was listing his views to include hard numbers to validate the basis for his video's purpose. Speaking for myself, I strongly desire such information in any kind of debate/discussion/argument, and go out of my way to include such information myself. I like to "cite my sources," as it were, whether it's a scholarly resource, or simply Wikipedia.

I would also posit, from a much weaker position, that you did not read all of the comments in "your" own forum, before your first post with the "whiny git" insult, having simply read the OP and watched some (if not all) of the linked video. A lot of your readers had posted opinions contrary to the OP, and by association yours. Not that there is anything wrong with having a different opinion as a reasonable individual. Again, as I have no factual basis for this argument, I must emphasize that it is only an vague impression I formed at first blush.

I was going to make a snide comment along the lines of "So, is this the official position of escapistmagazine.com?" but I decided against it...

Instead, I will just say:

It's perfectly reasonable to say "Hey, I wouldn't have expressed myself in quite the same way as he did in this one specific video," but that wasn't your approach at all.

Depressed now.

I don't understand why you think it's relevant in any way that I expressed an opinion that differed from others. Should I only speak up when I'm agreeing with the majority of the people in the forum? Sorry, that's a rather ridiculous thing to say.

 

[Woiminkle]

Yeah as far as TB being a douche for saying "Not a time traveller" gonna have to disagree there. This is a very harmless comment with no insult being either directed at or implied to the person to whom he was responding. As for "Man up baby" if somebody who wasn't even the guy TB responded to got upset over the comment then they do kinda need to grow up a bit.

 

[Mr Companion]

And Brevity is the soul of wit

Wit is not a priority, this is not a comedy show.

snip

Time to critique the critic.

Well the first part probably didn't happen, but hey, whatever. You'd think if it stuck in your mind so much you'd have an actual quote.

In regards to that VLOG on criticism, hey guess you really didn't listen to the video at all. I never suggested that you respond to "negative feedback" with reasoning, I suggested you criticise the criticism to see if it holds any water. If your criticism isn't constructive in any respect then it's nothing but a flame. Yeah, blocking is the best way to handle people like that. If I don't want to hear your bullshit, I have an ability to stop you from posting it, which is good for the audience since you don't rile them up either and start unnecessary arguments.

Logical disconnect in your next paragraph where you claim that "he equates all criticism of himself with insults", nope. I equate insults with insults. Unconstructive negative criticism is an insult, that's kinda the point. If it's unconstructive you did not deliver it with good intentions, you delivered it with the sole purpose of insulting the person in question. If you're suggesting you "reason" with people like that then I'd invite you to spend a week in my shoes and see how you feel by the end of it. Being shouted at by thousands of people a day on the internet will burn away your good intentions faster than an acid bath. "Declaring yourself the winner" is irrelevant, there is no contest, the end goal of blocking someone is to stop them from communicating with you, which is about as offensive as not picking up the phone when someone is trying to sell you kitchenware you don't want. Some people are extremely easily offended, I guess they got it into their heads that the internet is a very democratic place and that their voice has the right to be heard. Not on private discussion forums it doesn't.

The rest of it, well that's just a big bunch of insults. Yeah, I'm so narcissistic, the constant criticism I publicly level at myself and repeated self-deprecation of my abilities and appearance obviously indicate that. If you want to psycho-analyze me over the internet at least let me get comfortable on the couch first. As for Northernlion, it's amusing to hear you mention it. We both have extremely similar attitude and have been good friends for a while. We adore to ***** about the same kind of people all the time, he has simply taken a policy of ignoring the comments rather than tackling them. Smart guy, saves time, but it also demonstrates just how easy it is to colour the perception of your average Youtube user. The "haven" you ran to to get away from my unpleasantness is run by a guy who is the Canadian me.

Fun times, nice to critique the criticism, it's cathartic, you should try it.

Just to provide a brief respite in this storm of anger let me say I find the deliberately verbose and lengthy content you put out to be uniquely good. Where most youtube content is the equivalent of a Tabloid you provide a detailed broadsheet perspective. Brevity is a worthy sacrifice for substance.

Also assuming you are not some TB importer you have officially been welcomed to The Escapist in the most fitting way there is: getting caught in a massive flamewar.

 

[invadergir]

Spoiler

Karl Ramstedt
TB, you missed that they changed the amount of prototypes to 5 from 4. That means that Black Lake is also being made!

TotalHalibut
I am not a time traveller

MrPlayerofgames
Where's the need man? That guy was just trying to be nice and you replied like a major douche...

TotalHalibut
Man up baby

ti1tus
Why are you so hostile? You don't usually seem like somebody who answers helpful comments like that.

Mjolnir258
For all his talk of wanting the comment section to be a cool place, his own commenting leaves a lot to be desired. If I didn't know any better i'd think there's some dude with a similar name trolling to his hearts content.

TotalHalibut
The comment section would be a cooler place if people stopped getting offended at EVERYTHING I SAY.
This happens everywhere, it's the root of ALL drama. It's why the WoW forums sucked, it's why the comments section sucks, a bunch of prissy easily-offended bleedinghearts derail EVERY discussion because they find something to take offense to and once that happens, GG, discussion is over.
Why the fuck would you sub to this channel if you couldn't deal with sarcasm and cynicism aye? I wonder

inferno232
You have a point if they're getting offended at, say, the fact you think their favorite video game sucks. Yeah, that's stupid as hell and those people don't really matter. But when you treat a guy like a dick because he's trying to point a simple bit of news out (he didn't say, "CHANGE YOUR VIDEO TB"), it makes sense that the guy's a bit surprised and upset.
It's the difference between throwing a fit over an opinion and being upset one of your favorite content creators decided to flip you off.

TotalHalibut
Nobody treated him like a dick, NOBODY.
Fucking reality man, such a ***** when trying to get upset over nothing, but I guess ignoring it is a way around tht.

Totalbiscuit was quite right to say that people are too easily-offended. He makes a sarcastic, but not insulting, comment to someone, then other people decide to get offended for that person. TB was not acting "like a major douche" at all.

And you criticize Susan who actually contributes to the gaming discourse while your content is basically a lets-play with opinion tacked on. Some people have deadlines and editors breathing down their necks while you put out a review that was old two weeks ago and dare to question others journalistic integrity.

There is a difference between being trend-setting and being contrarian. Good job, you painted Bioshock Infinite as "not counter-strike". Pick up your medal at bro-gamer central where most of your fans dwell.

He was not criticising Susan's content, he was criticising her for calling him a "whiny git", then making up shit about his VLog.

And there is a huge difference between saying that Bioshock Infinite is "not counter-strike" and saying that the combat mechanics could be better. Unless you believe that sub-par combat was somehow important to the game.

It was late when I typed that. I meant to say "Susan and others of her ilk". I believe he's being contrarian towards the journalistic community just to raise views.

And no, he did not say it could have been better. He repeated for 40 minutes how the combat sucked. Story, art design, etc was shoved into like 10 minutes. There was barely any mention of the music if there was any.

And this is coming from someone who agrees with him that the combat was boring. I just thought he harped on it for far too long and his video quality suffered for it. But as you can tell, he doesn't like or welcome criticism.

 

[Costia]

I don't understand why you think it's relevant in any way that I expressed an opinion that differed from others. Should I only speak up when I'm agreeing with the majority of the people in the forum? Sorry, that's a rather ridiculous thing to say.

It's not the opinion, it how it was expressed. Calling someone a "whiny git" is disrespectful.
Also, it seems to me that you drew this conclusion based on a single video. If I watched a single Jimquisition episode I would definitely jump to the wrong conclusions about Jim. Seeing Jim on the escapist expo last year would prove those conclusions wrong. Knowing that, I would have been more careful in expressing my opinion about TB.
I think the first response to this thread sums up that video quite well. TB seems to take thing more personally than most journalists.

 

[Archer666]

Honestly, you can see why people don't think you are being sincere about wanting honest feedback? There is the you that doesn't deal with criticism very well (as seen in this thread), and there's the you that you claim to be. Personally, I'm going to go with the narcissist who doesn't care about his fans and just sees them as potential revenue.

Ding ding ding! We've got a winner! That's pretty much what his fans are to him.

 

[Tar Palantir]

Honestly, you can see why people don't think you are being sincere about wanting honest feedback? There is the you that doesn't deal with criticism very well (as seen in this thread), and there's the you that you claim to be. Personally, I'm going to go with the narcissist who doesn't care about his fans and just sees them as potential revenue.

Ding ding ding! We've got a winner! That's pretty much what his fans are to him.

Blunt sincerity doesn't appeal much these days.

Unless I greatly misunderstand TB (entirely possible) he doesn't want fans in the first place. He creates content, and if it's interesting enough people will watch it, and he'll get ad revenue for his work.

That is it. It's a business not a big happy family, and I don't see anything wrong with it. As long as the man will make interesting enough videos I will watch them if I care about the subject.

Speaking of which, the only interesting things (to me) at Pax were Transistor (because Bastion) and.....nothing else. A bunch of unknown games in mid-development aren't very appealing I guess. And exclusive or not, I don't think many people care about Project Shield.

 

[Susan Arendt]

I don't understand why you think it's relevant in any way that I expressed an opinion that differed from others. Should I only speak up when I'm agreeing with the majority of the people in the forum? Sorry, that's a rather ridiculous thing to say.

It's not the opinion, it how it was expressed. Calling someone a "whiny git" is disrespectful.
Also, it seems to me that you drew this conclusion based on a single video. If I watched a single Jimquisition episode I would definitely jump to the wrong conclusions about Jim. Seeing Jim on the escapist expo last year would prove those conclusions wrong. Knowing that, I would have been more careful in expressing my opinion about TB.
I think the first response to this thread sums up that video quite well. TB seems to take thing more personally than most journalists.

No, the person I was quoting took issue with the fact that I apparently hadn't read the comments and therefore hadn't noticed that my opinion was different from most people in the thread. (He also took issue with the way I expressed my opinion, and I have no quarrel with that, that's a perfectly fair critique.)

Taking issue with how I chose to say something - sure, no problem. Taking issue with the fact that I didn't just go along with the majority? Sorry, no.

 

[Susan Arendt]

Spoiler

Karl Ramstedt
TB, you missed that they changed the amount of prototypes to 5 from 4. That means that Black Lake is also being made!

TotalHalibut
I am not a time traveller

MrPlayerofgames
Where's the need man? That guy was just trying to be nice and you replied like a major douche...

TotalHalibut
Man up baby

ti1tus
Why are you so hostile? You don't usually seem like somebody who answers helpful comments like that.

Mjolnir258
For all his talk of wanting the comment section to be a cool place, his own commenting leaves a lot to be desired. If I didn't know any better i'd think there's some dude with a similar name trolling to his hearts content.

TotalHalibut
The comment section would be a cooler place if people stopped getting offended at EVERYTHING I SAY.
This happens everywhere, it's the root of ALL drama. It's why the WoW forums sucked, it's why the comments section sucks, a bunch of prissy easily-offended bleedinghearts derail EVERY discussion because they find something to take offense to and once that happens, GG, discussion is over.
Why the fuck would you sub to this channel if you couldn't deal with sarcasm and cynicism aye? I wonder

inferno232
You have a point if they're getting offended at, say, the fact you think their favorite video game sucks. Yeah, that's stupid as hell and those people don't really matter. But when you treat a guy like a dick because he's trying to point a simple bit of news out (he didn't say, "CHANGE YOUR VIDEO TB"), it makes sense that the guy's a bit surprised and upset.
It's the difference between throwing a fit over an opinion and being upset one of your favorite content creators decided to flip you off.

TotalHalibut
Nobody treated him like a dick, NOBODY.
Fucking reality man, such a ***** when trying to get upset over nothing, but I guess ignoring it is a way around tht.

Totalbiscuit was quite right to say that people are too easily-offended. He makes a sarcastic, but not insulting, comment to someone, then other people decide to get offended for that person. TB was not acting "like a major douche" at all.

And you criticize Susan who actually contributes to the gaming discourse while your content is basically a lets-play with opinion tacked on. Some people have deadlines and editors breathing down their necks while you put out a review that was old two weeks ago and dare to question others journalistic integrity.

There is a difference between being trend-setting and being contrarian. Good job, you painted Bioshock Infinite as "not counter-strike". Pick up your medal at bro-gamer central where most of your fans dwell.

He was not criticising Susan's content, he was criticising her for calling him a "whiny git", then making up shit about his VLog.

And there is a huge difference between saying that Bioshock Infinite is "not counter-strike" and saying that the combat mechanics could be better. Unless you believe that sub-par combat was somehow important to the game.

Excuse me, but what am I supposed to have made up? (Edit: Oh, wait...was that part referring to someone else? Sorry it's just a bit muddled - apologies if I misunderstood to whom you were referring.)

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

Honestly, you can see why people don't think you are being sincere about wanting honest feedback? There is the you that doesn't deal with criticism very well (as seen in this thread), and there's the you that you claim to be. Personally, I'm going to go with the narcissist who doesn't care about his fans and just sees them as potential revenue.

Ding ding ding! We've got a winner! That's pretty much what his fans are to him.

You say TB treats his viewers only as potential revenue but then say he doesn't care about feedback as to why his viewers (and revenue) fell during PAX. Bit of a contradiction no? By that logic he should definitely care about the feedback because his revenue fell and he needs to know why so he can fix it and more.

And you can take an out of context quote, overlay it onto a terrible picture and make him seem like a douche compared to Freddie Mercury all you like, it doesn't really change anything.

If I remember correctly that quote was about people who threaten him by saying "I'll unsub if you don't..." or "You can't do this, I'll unsub" and his response is an entirely legitimate one. He's not going to change what he is doing because ONE person is threatening to unsub, when if he continues what he's doing, producing the same style of content he'll gain 1000 new subs by the end of the day.

 

[Susan Arendt]

Spoiler

Karl Ramstedt
TB, you missed that they changed the amount of prototypes to 5 from 4. That means that Black Lake is also being made!

TotalHalibut
I am not a time traveller

MrPlayerofgames
Where's the need man? That guy was just trying to be nice and you replied like a major douche...

TotalHalibut
Man up baby

ti1tus
Why are you so hostile? You don't usually seem like somebody who answers helpful comments like that.

Mjolnir258
For all his talk of wanting the comment section to be a cool place, his own commenting leaves a lot to be desired. If I didn't know any better i'd think there's some dude with a similar name trolling to his hearts content.

TotalHalibut
The comment section would be a cooler place if people stopped getting offended at EVERYTHING I SAY.
This happens everywhere, it's the root of ALL drama. It's why the WoW forums sucked, it's why the comments section sucks, a bunch of prissy easily-offended bleedinghearts derail EVERY discussion because they find something to take offense to and once that happens, GG, discussion is over.
Why the fuck would you sub to this channel if you couldn't deal with sarcasm and cynicism aye? I wonder

inferno232
You have a point if they're getting offended at, say, the fact you think their favorite video game sucks. Yeah, that's stupid as hell and those people don't really matter. But when you treat a guy like a dick because he's trying to point a simple bit of news out (he didn't say, "CHANGE YOUR VIDEO TB"), it makes sense that the guy's a bit surprised and upset.
It's the difference between throwing a fit over an opinion and being upset one of your favorite content creators decided to flip you off.

TotalHalibut
Nobody treated him like a dick, NOBODY.
Fucking reality man, such a ***** when trying to get upset over nothing, but I guess ignoring it is a way around tht.

Totalbiscuit was quite right to say that people are too easily-offended. He makes a sarcastic, but not insulting, comment to someone, then other people decide to get offended for that person. TB was not acting "like a major douche" at all.

And you criticize Susan who actually contributes to the gaming discourse while your content is basically a lets-play with opinion tacked on. Some people have deadlines and editors breathing down their necks while you put out a review that was old two weeks ago and dare to question others journalistic integrity.

There is a difference between being trend-setting and being contrarian. Good job, you painted Bioshock Infinite as "not counter-strike". Pick up your medal at bro-gamer central where most of your fans dwell.

He was not criticising Susan's content, he was criticising her for calling him a "whiny git", then making up shit about his VLog.

And there is a huge difference between saying that Bioshock Infinite is "not counter-strike" and saying that the combat mechanics could be better. Unless you believe that sub-par combat was somehow important to the game.

Excuse me, but what am I supposed to have made up? (Edit: Oh, wait...was that part referring to someone else? Sorry it's just a bit muddled - apologies if I misunderstood to whom you were referring.)

He wasn't "obsessively listing how many views all the other videos got", he mentioned a few numbers to, as he said, give context.

You said "It's perfectly reasonable to say "Hey, doesn't look like you guys enjoyed that, so what *would* you like?" but that's not his approach at all.", When that's exactly what the video was. If you didn't get that, then you either missed the point of the video or you are making shit up.

Wow..."making shit up"? That's a remarkably hostile way to interpret that. Having a different opinion is not "making shit up." You interpret his approach one way, I interpret it another. It's a disagreement, not falsehood.

 

[Archer666]

You say TB treats his viewers only as potential revenue but then say he doesn't care about feedback as to why his viewers (and revenue) fell during PAX. Bit of a contradiction no? By that logic he should definitely care about the feedback because his revenue fell and he needs to know why so he can fix it and more.

And you can take an out of context quote, overlay it onto a terrible picture and make him seem like a douche compared to Freddie Mercury all you like, it doesn't really change anything.

If I remember correctly that quote was about people who threaten him by saying "I'll unsub if you don't..." or "You can't do this, I'll unsub" and his response is an entirely legitimate one. He's not going to change what he is doing because ONE person is threatening to unsub, when if he continues what he's doing, producing the same style of content he'll gain 1000 new subs by the end of the day.

Well of course, once his revenue takes a hit then he starts singing a different tune. That's the fun of this situation: He didn't care until it hit him right in the money. When he found that there were no more replacements to be had. As seen in the OP video where he's asking for feedback because he knows that if this drop of viewers continues its going to hurt. Suddenly, he cares! He wants to know! Funny how that works.

Here's the quote for you, btw. Guy likes his content, he's just unsobbing because TB is a bit of a git, to borrow a term. If he didn't want to be seen as a git, he should have just ignored the comment.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

You say TB treats his viewers only as potential revenue but then say he doesn't care about feedback as to why his viewers (and revenue) fell during PAX. Bit of a contradiction no? By that logic he should definitely care about the feedback because his revenue fell and he needs to know why so he can fix it and more.

And you can take an out of context quote, overlay it onto a terrible picture and make him seem like a douche compared to Freddie Mercury all you like, it doesn't really change anything.

If I remember correctly that quote was about people who threaten him by saying "I'll unsub if you don't..." or "You can't do this, I'll unsub" and his response is an entirely legitimate one. He's not going to change what he is doing because ONE person is threatening to unsub, when if he continues what he's doing, producing the same style of content he'll gain 1000 new subs by the end of the day.

Well of course, once his revenue takes a hit then he starts singing a different tune. That's the fun of this situation: He didn't care until it hit him right in the money. When he found that there were no more replacements to be had. As seen in the OP video where he's asking for feedback because he knows that if this drop of viewers continues its going to hurt. Suddenly, he cares! He wants to know! Funny how that works.

Here's the quote for you, btw. Guy likes his content, he's just unsobbing because TB is a bit of a git, to borrow a term. If he didn't want to be seen as a git, he should have just ignored the comment.

Maybe he should've just ignored it but what is wrong with saying he doesn't take requests?
If he gets a dozen requests on every video to do a WTF IS.. Minecraft should he do it because that's feedback? No, he'll create the content he wants to create because that is what the overwhelming number of people enjoy watching from him.

The difference here is that it doesn't cost him $10k to produce WTF is for a week, whereas it does with PAX. He asked people if there was a specific problem with that content so he could fix it, or if it was even worth fixing. I don't get what the problem is here.