this is his job, this is how he makes his money, not like other youtubers who do it as a hobbie this is all he does to earn a living. and he spent a lot of money on going to pax and with the low viewer count probably made a loss on it. so he has every right to be upset and he made that video to ask why there was so few viewers.
TotalBiscuit's very strange behavior in this Vlog video....
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Maybe he could start doing requests? Oh wait, he doesn't want to pander to the desires of his fanbase or read their comments. That said, this video didn't seem to blame the viewers (or lack of them) at all so I'm not seeing where the OP is coming from.
It seems I did overeacted somehow with the whole thing...Ironside said:
I don't know, all of you have right, but it seems I didn't released how I get affected when he speak negative for specific things.
Sure, when he tell his opinion for a game or in some gaming news, I don't mind, I like the style he have, but now I don't know....
I mean he doesnt seem angry so much as worried, i can understand reviewing games and media myself. its nerveracking when stuff doesnt get views o when you get deep into at is level im sure its traumatic. on a sidenote, does anyone know how to figure out what thread you made corresponds to the hot topic badge?
What do you mean? Can you explain with more details please? My English isn't so good I must admit.Zeke63 said:
He did nothing wrong. There was nothing at Pax I wanted to see covered. It's Holidays, I was also with family.
That's it. I had a media overload and just zoned out from most events.
He took the risk of going to it and covering it, interest must just not have been as high as last time. And sadly... financially it probably hit him in the stomach.
Youtube also tends to dick around with their layouts constantly and it causes some people not to see some videos from channels they're subscribed to, this probably didn't help as I know there was a slight outbreak of this.
Also TB tends to be a tad too tempted to acknowledge his trolls and antagonists more often than the people who are supporting him. See twitter for more of that.
Other Youtubers just completely zone out their overtly negative (not constructive criticism, stuff like 'lol u din like mi fav game ur a fegget') responses and tend to create an image of a more stable and genial person. TB Is...not that guy. And that's what some of his fans like him for. Others...detest it.
I know his tag line is 'The Cynical Brit' but he's got to realize that people can only take so much of before they get annoyed and go off to look at cute cat videos and people with friendlier attitudes. I'm no peach myself, but...thankfully I don't have to make a living off my personality. I'd be broke and homeless.
That would be my two cents but...what do I know, even if I wrote it to them, I doubt anyone would care, or agree with any of it.
I used to watch him back when he was enthusiastically (and with seemingly a happier tone of voice?) covering the WoW: Catacylsm Beta. But a year after that I found I just wasn't enjoying him as a personality anymore and moved on.
Nothing against the guy, but if he wants my attentions back I'd like the person who sounds like he enjoys what he's doing.
But as it is, I'll listen to him shoutcasting Starcraft matches sometimes. And him + Jessie Cox is a far more welcome formula to my ears since Jessie tends to poke something terribly amusing out of him, but that's it. I don't watch him play games, interview or cover events or any of that anymore.
That's it. I had a media overload and just zoned out from most events.
He took the risk of going to it and covering it, interest must just not have been as high as last time. And sadly... financially it probably hit him in the stomach.
Youtube also tends to dick around with their layouts constantly and it causes some people not to see some videos from channels they're subscribed to, this probably didn't help as I know there was a slight outbreak of this.
Also TB tends to be a tad too tempted to acknowledge his trolls and antagonists more often than the people who are supporting him. See twitter for more of that.
Other Youtubers just completely zone out their overtly negative (not constructive criticism, stuff like 'lol u din like mi fav game ur a fegget') responses and tend to create an image of a more stable and genial person. TB Is...not that guy. And that's what some of his fans like him for. Others...detest it.
I know his tag line is 'The Cynical Brit' but he's got to realize that people can only take so much of before they get annoyed and go off to look at cute cat videos and people with friendlier attitudes. I'm no peach myself, but...thankfully I don't have to make a living off my personality. I'd be broke and homeless.
That would be my two cents but...what do I know, even if I wrote it to them, I doubt anyone would care, or agree with any of it.
I used to watch him back when he was enthusiastically (and with seemingly a happier tone of voice?) covering the WoW: Catacylsm Beta. But a year after that I found I just wasn't enjoying him as a personality anymore and moved on.
Nothing against the guy, but if he wants my attentions back I'd like the person who sounds like he enjoys what he's doing.
But as it is, I'll listen to him shoutcasting Starcraft matches sometimes. And him + Jessie Cox is a far more welcome formula to my ears since Jessie tends to poke something terribly amusing out of him, but that's it. I don't watch him play games, interview or cover events or any of that anymore.
he get money every time some one watches his videos, the only money he gets, this is his job, this is not about fanboys this is about he lively hood, if you suddenly began losing money on your job you by all right would be asking why, thats all TB is doing. as for the FOV thing, on larger moniter a small FOV can cause motion sickness, which for those who suffer it can be a big deal.Judgement101 said:
Hmmm..
There are two sides to this coin, first of all, it's the mans full time job. It's what he lives off of, and he just wants to know what to do next. He's asking what to do, to improve his product.
But the way he's going about it to his viewers isn't really helping. He's trying to make the viewer feel guilty for not watching everything he makes, even if you like it or not. That won't really help him, at all, probably do the opposite such as now.
There are two sides to this coin, first of all, it's the mans full time job. It's what he lives off of, and he just wants to know what to do next. He's asking what to do, to improve his product.
But the way he's going about it to his viewers isn't really helping. He's trying to make the viewer feel guilty for not watching everything he makes, even if you like it or not. That won't really help him, at all, probably do the opposite such as now.
I'm not really seeing the aggressiveness here, so I'm a bit confused. To me it just sounds like a guy asking for feedback on how to make the most out of his spending. If he's spent £10k on videos that no one is watching it's understandable to be concerned, especially if it's his living.
I know TB can be a prickly guy despite not really watching him, but this video isn't one of them. Even if he had been it would be somewhat understandable considering the position he's in.
I know TB can be a prickly guy despite not really watching him, but this video isn't one of them. Even if he had been it would be somewhat understandable considering the position he's in.
He's being honest about it. The reason you don't see other producers and reviewers talking like that is they know it will put fans off. But thats definitely the way they think. I bet if a reviewer on the Escapist started only doing indie games no-one has heard of or cared about and views started dropping off, the Escapist would probably stop paying them very much.SweetShark said:
But for everyone (maybe not the Jimquisition because Jim has a different job that probably pays enough that those videos can be a fun side project), they probably do think the way TB thinks. TB has family and if people don't watch his videos his family makes less money. It probably would have been better for him to disguise it and dress it up a bit. His choice of video title was bad, but you can guarantee every professional reviewers watches their view counts like a hawk
Just as a thought experiment, I'm going to take the top comments from two Retsupurae videos, two Game Grumps videos, two of Chip & Ironicus' Let's Plays, and two of Yahtzee's Let's Plays.IronMit said:
Retsupurae said:
I'll grant you the last comment as actually being somewhat constructive and/or helpful.
Chip & Ironicus said:
Game Grumps said:
Yahtzee said:
I don't find Youtube to really be the place I want to look for scintillating discussion.
OT: OP, TotalBiscuit is always like that. He's a very abrasive person, and he takes personal offense to a lot of the trollish things people do on Youtube -- Hence the blocking of comment voting, since his viewers regularly mark his own comments as Spam. I'll admit I probably don't have as much exposure to him as some other people, since I only regularly follow "WTF Is...", but he comes across as very prideful of his work, and this is his work.
What is the problem?
He's simply asking for viewer feedback. Aside from outlining his position, it's nothing more than that.
He's simply asking for viewer feedback. Aside from outlining his position, it's nothing more than that.
I really have very little interest in his pax coverage, call me when he gets back to his blood bowl tournament
I knew that was going to come back at meshrekfan246 said:
I didn't say the youtube comments are of high quality or useful (okay maybe I did imply - but my argument is not limited to that).
It's just that youtube has many channels competing for views, you need any edge you can get. And if you remove comments, or likes/dislikes, or voting on comments then it's not going to help your chances. it may not factor into your viewing habits but I guarantee you its a factor for a significant proportion of potential viewers.