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PureChaos

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Seeing as they say TV programmes and films are just as bad, why are they only buying back games? Why not a full violent media buy back?
 

EHKOS

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Fuck it, you can have 'em if you really want. I'll just go play Gex and Tomba....fuckers.

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Xanadu84

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JudgeGame said:
God forbid they actually bought back guns. Because guns are protected by the Constitution while videogames are clearly incredibly dangerous tools of murder that endanger everyone involved.
They do, there are a number of gun buyback programs, particularly ones that cropped up recently. I bet this buyback is modeled on gun buybacks.

Buyback programs like these never work. They are always predicated on the idea that pure numbers of something causes the ill effect. Even if you are going to assume that gun control would decrease crime (I am NOT going down that road here), actual gun buybacks end up just appealing to people who want to get some cash for a gun they have no intention of useing. If a person owns the item to be bought back, they attach a value to it. If they abhor it, they won't use it, or they will get rid of it. If they own the thing to begin with, they will only exchange it if it has a negligable use. If they were being bought back for enough to entice people to sell off the items they may actually use, then the program would be so prone to abuse that it would be ludicrous.

And this program here? Its so broken as to be crazy. Basically, your creating a huge value for any game that is not valuable in the secondary market. Id love to bring a stack of used PS1 games, PC games that I already redeemed on Steam, clunkers from the 99 cent bin etc, and turn a bunch of non-violent old games into money with which I can go and buy a new, violent game. Ideally to redeem on Steam, and then trade back to the program. I mean, these people won't have a robust knowledge of the secondary market here, how many shovelware games, cereal/fast food freebies, demo disks, redeemed games and the like will find its way into the pile? Even a upstanding anti-hacker might consider buying a game, and getting a no cd crack so they can eek out some cash from the disc. Heck, they might even buy another game from that same developer so they can say that piracy absolutely brought them more business. There are far to many examples where this buyback is functionally the equivalent of trying to stop obesity by offering to buyback candy bar wrappers.But hey, if they are that ignorant about video games in the first place, I saw awesome. Go rob them of a few bucks, and ideally, mock them with it afterwards.
 

Chester Rabbit

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I don't have anything to really add to this topic other than reading this just lead to me banging my head against my desk.
 

MeChaNiZ3D

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This ample evidence being...?

Besides which, I don't know about you, but I'm either playing a videogame or have traded it in for another one. I don't just have games sitting around when they could be traded in. At best this is an opportunity for people who need to clean out their drawers, and even then they'll have to offer a better deal than retail outlets or eBay. I must say though, I do love how a shooting spree has lead to a buyback scheme for VIDEOGAMES.
 

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Xanadu84 said:
JudgeGame said:
God forbid they actually bought back guns. Because guns are protected by the Constitution while videogames are clearly incredibly dangerous tools of murder that endanger everyone involved.
They do, there are a number of gun buyback programs, particularly ones that cropped up recently. I bet this buyback is modeled on gun buybacks.

Buyback programs like these never work. They are always predicated on the idea that pure numbers of something causes the ill effect. Even if you are going to assume that gun control would decrease crime (I am NOT going down that road here), actual gun buybacks end up just appealing to people who want to get some cash for a gun they have no intention of useing. If a person owns the item to be bought back, they attach a value to it. If they abhor it, they won't use it, or they will get rid of it. If they own the thing to begin with, they will only exchange it if it has a negligable use. If they were being bought back for enough to entice people to sell off the items they may actually use, then the program would be so prone to abuse that it would be ludicrous.

And this program here? Its so broken as to be crazy. Basically, your creating a huge value for any game that is not valuable in the secondary market. Id love to bring a stack of used PS1 games, PC games that I already redeemed on Steam, clunkers from the 99 cent bin etc, and turn a bunch of non-violent old games into money with which I can go and buy a new, violent game. Ideally to redeem on Steam, and then trade back to the program. I mean, these people won't have a robust knowledge of the secondary market here, how many shovelware games, cereal/fast food freebies, demo disks, redeemed games and the like will find its way into the pile? Even a upstanding anti-hacker might consider buying a game, and getting a no cd crack so they can eek out some cash from the disc. Heck, they might even buy another game from that same developer so they can say that piracy absolutely brought them more business. There are far to many examples where this buyback is functionally the equivalent of trying to stop obesity by offering to buyback candy bar wrappers.But hey, if they are that ignorant about video games in the first place, I saw awesome. Go rob them of a few bucks, and ideally, mock them with it afterwards.
I know they exist. I'm also skeptical about their effectiveness in general. I'm just bewildered by the ridiculous logic path somebody followed to conxlude a violent videogame buyback program would fix anything.
 

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Bullying and crime has gone down over the last 10 years hasn't it?

These people are off the hook because they have mental health problems, not because they play violent games. My brother had a fairly recent mental breakdown and became violent and forgetful, but before that and now he is on medication he was/is fine.
 

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JudgeGame said:
God forbid they actually bought back guns. Because guns are protected by the Constitution while videogames are clearly incredibly dangerous tools of murder that endanger everyone involved.
Aren't games protected by it now as well via the First Amendment? Non-US person here, but that's the last I heard on the subject.

OT: Yeah, I haven't met many bullies when I was a kid who played a lot of games. Most kids I knew who played games were the ones BEING bullied. Violent kids are most often violent because of their upbringing and environment.

You wanna connect it to something? Try sports. Every bully I know played some sport or another and they were usually violent during the sport (whether shoving, tripping or just getting pissed off when they lost). And no, I'm not saying sports produce bullies, but it's still a far more legitimate claim by the reasoning of these idiots, showing what a complete load of bollocks these studies are.

Yes, video game violence desentisizes you to violence. Video game violence. What desentisizes you from real life violence is real life violence (in kids, it's usually bullies in the household, who then pass it on by monkey see monkey do to kids who weren't taught basic social behaviour). It's not really a difficult pattern to follow.
 

Vault101

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fuck this...seriously

its not just one thing..true..but you can't fucking tell me this does ANYTHING in anyway shape or form, you can't tell me that baning shit is the answer,
 

Vault101

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nexus said:
LordNerevar said:
*sigh* dumb-asses make wanna cry :(
Nice string of faceless new users there.

"Dumb-asses make wanna cry" ? Mkay. Go back to your hole.
wake up on the wrong side of the bed did we?
 

Vault101

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Katatori-kun said:
Wow, some of you should see a orthopedic surgeon the way your knees are jerking over this.

Aside from the dubious claims about violence in the news story, this event doesn't hurt anyone. If they want to waste their money so they can feel like they've done something, then what skin is it off of your nose? I mean, since you're all so happy to let scientists study the effects of gaming violence on people, we've got easy evidence to show their claims are wrong- oh wait....
because its pure stupiditiy is why, its not jsut games, its the crusade against artistic expression, you can't prevent psycho nutters by banning whats already made and you certainly can't prevent them by getting sane people to hand over their games

I bet thease self rightous wankers would force us all to give up violent games if they could..I know they can't, but its the pure disrespect for art that actually distrubes me, especially when there are other things *cough*mentalhealth*cough* that need looking into
 

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nexus said:
LordNerevar said:
*sigh* dumb-asses make wanna cry :(
Nice string of faceless new users there.

"Dumb-asses make wanna cry" ? Mkay. Go back to your hole.
All those avatar-less people except 1 have been around longer than you. One of them has been around since 2007, and lots of users without avatars are well known.

You seem especially angry at them for no good reason.
 

Micah Weil

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...gonna reserve my commentary for right now. I'd LOVE to see a follow-up on this story on the 13th...
 

Dagda Mor

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As far as this sort of shit goes, this instance is a lot more tactful than most, in that they actually hold video games in equal regard as other media.
 

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nexus said:
LordNerevar said:
*sigh* dumb-asses make wanna cry :(
Nice string of faceless new users there.

"Dumb-asses make wanna cry" ? Mkay. Go back to your hole.
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The one in bold is the only one of these "faceless new users" that signed up after you. I would recommend checking stuff like that before posting.

OT: That's rather convenient of them in all honesty, if they are saying that violent video games aren't to be blamed for this specific incident, but that they are for violence and killings in general. In short, I don't buy it. And if all types of media are to blame, why is it only video games that are being chosen? Surely if you'd want to stop it, you'd offer to take all types.
 

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VMK said:
Taronus said:
Counries with school shootings: USA
Countries with violent video games: ALL
Countries with with lax gun laws: USA

Yes,it is obviously the video games' fault.
Can't argue with that.
Also, about gun buyback:
They offer, what, 50 dollars for weapons, that clearly cost a lot more? Those guys will sell them and make profit, and if not, they are complete morons.
$50 (or credit) is usually the least amount given. Recent gun buyback programs in my area offered up to $250 for each gun.

A lot of the guns turned in are junk guns such as Hi-Points, Lorcins, Cobras, Ravens, Brycos some of which don't even have the retail value of $50. A lot of gun shops I've frequented include those guns for free after purchases or as a perk for servicemen, law enforcement, Front Sight, and NRA members, (and because it's inventory that they need to clear.)

Most of these gun buyback programs are no questions asked, no IDs required or recorded, and no arrests made for any illegal nature behind the guns. So $50-$250 is a good deal for an enterprising collector/retailer who is trying to get rid of crap they don't want. $50-$250 is also a good deal for an enterprising criminal with stolen guns or guns they don't want to be caught with.
 

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Is there a way I can buy back the games from the buy backers and resell them? I feel the beginning of a good money making scheme in the works.

Captcha is "Sir Squirrel" With a squirrel holing a sword and shield... it is awesome.
 

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Cool, maybe I can sell them some useless crap I dont want anymore and then buy the newest Call of Duty, God of War or Mortal Kombat, yay!