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The Stonker

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Well I remeber that I played Yugioh alot and I was kinda good at it when I was eight.
But what I did was when the pokéfad got on then I bought 1 booster and then I got really lucky and got a Charizard I said oh goody a Charizard I guess my scheme can go on now.
So I traded the Charizard for a set of 70 super rare cards and then those 70 for 55 ultra rare then finally in the end I had about 140 "shiny" cards but then I started to sell and buy pokémon cards for about I don't know 3 dollars for 2 cards and there with that 2.50 dollar pack I spended I turned it into 180 dollars.
And guess what I did with that money? I started buying manga with it and there starts my manga fad...
 

sketch_zeppelin

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I prefer magic the gathering because unlike some of the other TCG i've played, each card both functions on it's own and goes into deepening the experience of the overall game. Mastering the game is like becoming some kind of strange lawyer because the game is just so flexable.

i've never played dual masters so i can't offer any opion on that.
 

BlindMessiah94

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Jonluw said:
BlindMessiah94 said:
I play a lot of TCG's and by far I think MTG is the most strategic. I don't know what kind of decks your friend is using but If you are merely just playing the cards in you hand with no synergy he probably just has some really basic decks.
It is very possible his decks are basic; but still, I miss the aspect of prioritizing what cards to use for mana, and what cards to keep. In magic, my hand often consists of some cards that can only be used for mana, and only a few that I can actually cast, and I rarely have to make a choice regarding what spells to cast, since the lands taking up space in my hand means I almost never find myself in a situation where I hold several spells that I can afford to cast.
Since you are very new to the game too I would say give it more time, and make your own deck if you can afford it (I know how pricey it can be). But it really depends on the deck you have. If you find yourself having limited options on what to cast and having decisions be limited in games I would say the deck itself was designed that way or designed poorly. Also in Magic sometimes it's not what you have in your hand but what is on the board - so decision and strategy making comes from deciding how to spend your resources the most effectively, or building decks with cards that have a lot of synergy so one decision can open the door for 3 more. The more deckbuilding you do (especially if you do drafts or tourney's), the more you will learn just from watching other people and then the real strategy becomes really evident. If that doesn't convince you I can send you a link with thousands of card combos in magic that will prove just how strategic it is :p
 

migo

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I can't speak to Duel Masters as I know nothing about it, but I'd say MTG is definitely my favourite game, although I stopped playing it thanks to the need to upgrade cards, and I'm very keen on Duels of the Planeswalkers for exactly that reason.
 

Steppin Razor

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I collected some of the Pokemon cards, but I wasn't all that into it. When Yu-Gi-Oh! came out I collected a whole lot of them and played it quite a bit with my mates until they stopped playing. Now I've got thousands of the things lying around the place and no one to play against.

Gigaguy64 said:
I think Duel Masters was labeled Kiddy because of that "Thing" that was Aired on Cartoon Network for a while*Shudders^

I Collect and Play the Bleach, Naruto, and Maple Story Card Games.
I have a few cards from the DBZ and Blue Dragon Card games as well.
o_O
There's a Maple Story card game?
 

Gigaguy64

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Alpha1089 said:
I collected some of the Pokemon cards, but I wasn't all that into it. When Yu-Gi-Oh! came out I collected a whole lot of them and played it quite a bit with my mates until they stopped playing. Now I've got thousands of the things lying around the place and no one to play against.

Gigaguy64 said:
I think Duel Masters was labeled Kiddy because of that "Thing" that was Aired on Cartoon Network for a while*Shudders^

I Collect and Play the Bleach, Naruto, and Maple Story Card Games.
I have a few cards from the DBZ and Blue Dragon Card games as well.
o_O
There's a Maple Story card game?
Oh yea.
I haven't gotten the chance to play with anyone but it looks like fun.
And some of the cards can unlock items and other things on the game.
......speaking of which....i haven't been on my MS account in a Loooooooooooooooooooong time...
I should get on so it wont be deleted if it hasn't been already.
 

Azure Sky

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When it boils down to it, Duel Masters, Pokemon and Yugioh all stem from Magic, in both good ways and bad.

DM and Yugioh branched away from the land system while still retaining the 'player life' in various ways.
Pokemon kept the concept of 'land' with energy, but like with the life points they are attached to the individual cards instead to the player or field.

I know there are dozens more TCGs, but those 4 are the better known ones.

Edit for discussion point.
I know the rules well enough for Magic, Pokemon and YuGiOh.
While I never collected YuGiOh, I have dabbled in various digital incarnations, YVD in particular.
My magic knowledge is restricted to the Duels of the Planeswalkers game on 360/Steam.
But I did collect/play a fair amount of Pokemon in my younger days, my 3 color Eevee deck rarely lost me a game. =3
 

Asturiel

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Jonluw said:
It is very possible his decks are basic; but still, I miss the aspect of prioritizing what cards to use for mana, and what cards to keep. In magic, my hand often consists of some cards that can only be used for mana, and only a few that I can actually cast, and I rarely have to make a choice regarding what spells to cast, since the lands taking up space in my hand means I almost never find myself in a situation where I hold several spells that I can afford to cast.
From what I'm gathering it seems that the decks you played were mostly just creature decks? If so perhaps you'd like to try out decks with a more control oriented strategy, a lot of blue decks offer this.

You basically try to control the entire field, putting in a lot of counterspells, cards that cockblock whatever your opponent tries to cast, and have a few cards that restrict certain gameplay elements. If you'd give it a bit of time to learn how to effectively use it, it can be a lot of fun, but overall don't give up on a game like Magic, that offers so much just because of the kind of decks you played, Magic's been around for a while and it's got a lot of different playstyles in it.

OT: I collected a bit of Pokemon cards back in the day, have them around the house as proof. Same goes for Yugioh, although they are more numerous, and I wouldn't be totally against playing with them again (There was a tournament in the anime club a couple years back, I said "Why not?" Looked through my 5 boxes of commons, made a good deck, played with it. Won the first game within 3 turns, went undefeated for the tournament until the final round, where the guy with a deck pimped out to fuck beat me 2-1. I was quite proud of that. Crappy common deck storming a tournament and doing well against a good deck? Yeaaaah).

But nowadays I play Magic the Gathering, and I love it. The strategies of competitive players are starting to appeal to me more now, I play at the local Friday Night Magic ever week, buy a booster box of each new set, and I'm currently running a white-green ally deck I intend to pimp out with Japanese Garruk's and shiny cards.
 

Miumaru

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I used to play MTG. Still have my cards and my favorite green deck. I played "Duel Masters" but it annoyed me that the show and the cards never synched. The shows fault I guess, but still. MTG is better though, if only because its so much bigger here and widerspread.
 

Jonluw

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Asturiel said:
Jonluw said:
It is very possible his decks are basic; but still, I miss the aspect of prioritizing what cards to use for mana, and what cards to keep. In magic, my hand often consists of some cards that can only be used for mana, and only a few that I can actually cast, and I rarely have to make a choice regarding what spells to cast, since the lands taking up space in my hand means I almost never find myself in a situation where I hold several spells that I can afford to cast.
From what I'm gathering it seems that the decks you played were mostly just creature decks? If so perhaps you'd like to try out decks with a more control oriented strategy, a lot of blue decks offer this.

You basically try to control the entire field, putting in a lot of counterspells, cards that cockblock whatever your opponent tries to cast, and have a few cards that restrict certain gameplay elements. If you'd give it a bit of time to learn how to effectively use it, it can be a lot of fun, but overall don't give up on a game like Magic, that offers so much just because of the kind of decks you played, Magic's been around for a while and it's got a lot of different playstyles in it.
Hmm... My friend does have one of those decks. Maybe I should try using it. I've refrained from trying it up until now because I feel more comfortable in the company of the slivers or the eldrazi.

As a matter of fact I am probably going with my friend to some kind of magic-evening today.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Jonluw said:
Hiya escapists.

A friend of mine recently started playing Magic: the gathering; and as a consequence, I have also been playing the game a lot, using his decks.

Having gotten a taste of trading card gaming, I decided to dig something out of my room that I hadn't touched in a while: My old Duel masters cards. Now, I don't have all that many cards, so I can not make very advanced decks, but I am having fun never the less.

What I've noticed though, is that, to me, Duel masters - a game that I believe is thought of as "kiddy" - seems to be more strategically advanced and deep than Magic - the game I thought was the more mature of the two.

While playing Magic, I often feel like I am merely playing out the cards in my hand: There is almost always an obvious choice.
While playing Duel masters however, I feel I need to prioritize, and less is left to luck due to the abscence of "lands".

Realizing this, I decided to do some research on the web: It turns out that while Duel masters has been discontinued in the west, it is the most popular trading card game in Asia (according to wikipedia). Now I am left with a decent Duel masters craving and I wish they would start selling it in the west again (though I probably couldn't afford to play it).
My questions to you are these:
Why did Duel masters get labelled a kids game? (My guess is the anime being aired as a childrens show)
What trading card game do you prefer, and why?
You're kidding right? Ever played a game of Magic with the old series of cards (and good ones) with someone who really knows how to play? It's a lot less about luck there. For example, one of my strategies is about a particular card called a Nightmare, which is more powerful depending on how many swamps I have. Put that with the card Blanket of Night which makes all my lands swamps in addition to what they normally are and I have a very powerful creature. Magic is all about strategy with how you put certain cards together.
 

Jonluw

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SL33TBL1ND said:
You're kidding right? Ever played a game of Magic with the old series of cards (and good ones) with someone who really knows how to play? It's a lot less about luck there. For example, one of my strategies is about a particular card called a Nightmare, which is more powerful depending on how many swamps I have. Put that with the card Blanket of Night which makes all my lands swamps in addition to what they normally are and I have a very powerful creature. Magic is all about strategy with how you put certain cards together.
I realize there is a lot of strategy involved in Magic as well, for example I tend to use Nirkana revenant to increase my mana significantly, and then, with the help of eye of Ugin, get high powered creatures like Emrakul the aeons torn out onto the battlefield.

The thing is though; most of these strategic choices lie in the realm of deck-building, and as I've mentioned, I play with decks that belong to a friend of mine. Therefore it feels like I am merely a tool for going through with the strategy my friend had in mind when he built the deck, and the strategy for me as a player simply boils down to what I have to do to complete the plan as fast as possible; whereas in Duel masters I need to make strategic choices within each game, mainly because of the system where you use spells and creatures as lands.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Jonluw said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
You're kidding right? Ever played a game of Magic with the old series of cards (and good ones) with someone who really knows how to play? It's a lot less about luck there. For example, one of my strategies is about a particular card called a Nightmare, which is more powerful depending on how many swamps I have. Put that with the card Blanket of Night which makes all my lands swamps in addition to what they normally are and I have a very powerful creature. Magic is all about strategy with how you put certain cards together.
I realize there is a lot of strategy involved in Magic as well, for example I tend to use Nirkana revenant to increase my mana significantly, and then, with the help of eye of Ugin, get high powered creatures like Emrakul the aeons torn out onto the battlefield.

The thing is though; most of these strategic choices lie in the realm of deck-building, and as I've mentioned, I play with decks that belong to a friend of mine. Therefore it feels like I am merely a tool for going through with the strategy my friend had in mind when he built the deck, and the strategy for me as a player simply boils down to what I have to do to complete the plan as fast as possible; whereas in Duel masters I need to make strategic choices within each game, mainly because of the system where you use spells and creatures as lands.
Fair enough, just for a second there I thought you were saying that it's a game that goes straight down to luck, which is a gross misrepresentation of what Magic is. But you're off the hook... for now.
 

Muramasa89

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Pokemon when I was about 7, though being so young I could never afford/get any decent cards. Plus no one liked to duel despite having them.

With YuGiOh, when I was 13 we had a nerdy club in school. I thought I was okay, but I still hate the ginger kid for lying about his card effects (Japanese ones). I still have two decks and a stash of rares (i.e. Gods) under my desk, and pull them out occasionally. Never really could see how good these decks were. :( Still against myself my Fire Deck owns (hardly a challenge that).

Edit: I did have a load of others cards, can't remember the game. I took them out one lesson to grab a pen and the prick substitute teacher took 'em. Didn't get them back. I hope his child is happy. Or him. ¬¬
 

GodofDisaster

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Yugioh has always been my favourite trading card game, I still play it today with my brother and friends occasionally.

I normally play a fiend deck, based around the dark world cards, but I enjoy building other decks with my extra cards. So far I've built an earth deck, water deck, warrior deck, machine deck, dragon deck and spell caster deck.

Right now I'm working on a crystal beast deck, although I only have about 10 of the cards needed, so it's really incomplete at the moment.