Anti Nudist Cupcake said:
Sniper Team 4 said:
funguy2121 said:
Team Hollywood said:
Aliens: Colonial Marines: E3 2011
Ripley is missing and the colonial marines must travel to the U.S.S. Sulaco to find her.
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Huh? Why would the ship be on LV-426 and not Fury 161? And only 2 civvies on board? What about Newt?
Newt wasn't part of the original crew, therefore she wouldn't be in the command's data base. Odd though, how the marines don't make any reference to the colonists.
Actually, Ripley and Newt were the only two civilians on board, Hicks was military and Bishop was an android.
Or am I forgetting someone? Have I made a mistake? I'm very tired.
Yes, you're forgetting Paul Riser's character, Carter Burke.
Remember, he was a representative of that corporation who had the secret agenda of trying to bring back one of the aliens for their private research. Remember, he locked Newt and Ripley in that room with the eggs, hoping they'd get impregnated, then they could just cryo them back as carriers (unaware to everyone else).
He got his when he locked everyone out of the lab during the big "alien's from everywhere!" attack and he turned around and there was a big slimy standing in the doorway waiting on him.
Worgen said:
And they should declare AVP as none-existent.
But that doesn't change the fact that aliens have been done to death, we know everything about them now and they just aren't scary anymore. It's time for a new monster to be made in this universe, luckily Ridley Scott has just this in mind with his next film.
the real problem with the aliens in the alien movies is that as the movies have gone on the aliens have become more and more zombie like, in other words they arnt the real threat, they are just a force of nature and the real threat is the people your with and thats now what people loved about the first 2[/quote]
Actually, I think the problem is that they went AWAY from the character development and concentrated TOO much on the "aliens" in the newer films.
What has changed is that Alien and Aliens were essentially horror movies, with the second being only slightly more sci fi action oriented. But as the series went on, it became less about the creepiness and fear of the aliens, and more about badass marines or prison inmates or mercenaries or bounty hunters kicking ass and taking names before being wiped out to a man in some macho-esque "last heroic stand" moment.
In the first two movies, you barely SAW the Aliens. They were shadows.. terrors in the night, and when someone saw one, they usually died a gruesome death very shortly thereafter. There was also a feeling of helplessness that pervaded the situation: IN the first, they were just a bunch of blue collar work types resorting to wielding wrenches and modified blow torches for defense and they didnt even know what they were defending themselves from.. they were just being picked off one by one by some menace in a cold, sterile, dark ship. In the second, they were stranded on a wasteland of a planet in an abandoned colony where every single other person was dead, and while they were marines, they were still going up against a foe they had little information about and knowledge of, greatly outnumbered, in a strange place that was dark, breaking down, and industrial in design, perfect for hiding unseen horrors in the "dark."
As the series went on it became about busting up bugs and kick ass human characters that were supposed to be as "vicious" as the very aliens that were killing them. That's what has killed the series, just as every horror series over the years has perished: When the main horror monster, psycho, thing, whatever starts to become a common occurrence and the movie becomes about lavish action sequences instead of filling us with suspense and terror, it loses it's punch. That's why Freddy stopped being "scary" around the Dream Masters. He went from demon in the night to witty one-liner using killer guy fighting kid warlocks and juvenile delinquents with switch blades. Thus Nightmare on Elm Street stopped being anything close to a "nightmare."
