Trailers: Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - End of an Era Trailer

[Team Hollywood]

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - End of an Era Trailer

Dragons sure do hate Japan. Maybe it's the hair?

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[Kenjitsuka]

Soooo... all of these amazing wizards can't stop that sky dragon with their amazingly square looking spell, but in the end our 4, 5 or 6 heroes can?

Sigh... Guess I'll replay FF VII or IX again.

 

[GenGenners]

It costs me nothing to admit that I was actually choking back tears a bit at that.
S-E, you should just go into making movies. No dialogue or voices, just art in e-motion (see what I did there?).

Oh, this is a trailer for Realm Reborn? Well......fuck, how is this going to make sense to anyone that hasn't played FFXIV?
Can a XIV player please explain what's going on here?

 

[Lunar Templar]

um ... ok, well it looked neat ....

but wtf just happened? and why should i care 'not Bahamut' is wrecking 9999 flavors of shit?

some context is sorely needed here

 

[EmperorSubcutaneous]

It costs me nothing to admit that I was actually choking back tears a bit at that.
S-E, you should just go into making movies. No dialogue or voices, just art in e-motion (see what I did there?).

Oh, this is a trailer for Realm Reborn? Well......fuck, how is this going to make sense to anyone that hasn't played FFXIV?
Can a XIV player please explain what's going on here?

Here's a summary. [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Seventh_Umbral_Era] It's just as confusing as you'd expect from a FF storyline.

On topic, they've proven time and again that they can make a good CGI video, and this one is no exception. They've also made a number of lofty promises about 2.0, and released some pretty concept art and alpha videos [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQb_t5zkfoY]. But as someone who was hyped to the moon about this game from the time it was announced until the time it launched, and then experienced a slow but painful growing disappointment in what it ended up being, they're going to have to do a hell of a lot more to win back my trust.

I'll definitely play it for the free trial month, but I'm sure as hell not going to get hyped for it like I did before.

 

[EmperorSubcutaneous]

um ... ok, well it looked neat ....

but wtf just happened? and why should i care 'not Bahamut' is wrecking 9999 flavors of shit?

some context is sorely needed here

"Not Bahamut"? This is a Final Fantasy game, you silly person, it's literally Bahamut. Again.

Anyway, the reason you should care is that he's destroying the world so that FFXIV can be remade from the ground up, and it will hopefully be playable this time. If nothing else, you have to give SE credit for trying.

I posted a summary of the XIV story for context in a previous post, but here it is again [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Seventh_Umbral_Era] if you're interested.

 

[Lunar Templar]

um ... ok, well it looked neat ....

but wtf just happened? and why should i care 'not Bahamut' is wrecking 9999 flavors of shit?

some context is sorely needed here

"Not Bahamut"? This is a Final Fantasy game, you silly person, it's literally Bahamut. Again.

Anyway, the reason you should care is that he's destroying the world so that FFXIV can be remade from the ground up, and it will hopefully be playable this time. If nothing else, you have to give SE credit for trying.

I posted a summary of the XIV story for context in a previous post, but here it is again [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Seventh_Umbral_Era] if you're interested.

could have been Tiamat, you know 'Bahamut but evil', but since they never said in the trailer, who knows.

um, .... why is Bahamut doing Tiamats job of wrecking shit?

 

[Flamezdudes]

I'm interested, so i'm going to be patient and just watch how well this game turns out until to decide whether to play it or not now.

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

Even though I like the dragons Bahamut and Tiamat to no end...

...still not interested in getting this game. At all. Ever. Though watching Tiamat/Bahamut wreck an entire planet's shit never gets old.

 

[Nieroshai]

um ... ok, well it looked neat ....

but wtf just happened? and why should i care 'not Bahamut' is wrecking 9999 flavors of shit?

some context is sorely needed here

The world of FF14 just ended, now they're rebooting the game on a new world by literally killing everyone. And making the mistake of charging a subscription fee, thus killing the likelihood that anyone new will sub.

 

[GenGenners]

um ... ok, well it looked neat ....

but wtf just happened? and why should i care 'not Bahamut' is wrecking 9999 flavors of shit?

some context is sorely needed here

"Not Bahamut"? This is a Final Fantasy game, you silly person, it's literally Bahamut. Again.

Anyway, the reason you should care is that he's destroying the world so that FFXIV can be remade from the ground up, and it will hopefully be playable this time. If nothing else, you have to give SE credit for trying.

Technically, no I don't have to give them any credit whatsoever. They convinced people to spend money on a pile of crap that they promised to fix but never did, and then they later opt to close down and replace with a new game. Will they be asking people to pay for the new game, too? Why should I respect this decision when it's only a decision they had to make because they made such a terrible game to start with? >_>

And this trailer does nothing to convince me they learned from the last game, either. It's the same-old. Flashy CGI trailer with lots of pretty stuff in it, but no substance or context to any of what is happening so there's no reason for me to CARE about what's happening. And still no footage of the game itself in the trailer. I know this is becoming a "thing" but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I want to see the game I'm playing before I play it, and I can't be alone in that sentiment. So why is this okay?

Read the link someone else posted and you'll find the context you seek. This trailer is actually more of a final cutscene for the end of the Seventh Umbral Era story arc.

 

[GenGenners]

um ... ok, well it looked neat ....

but wtf just happened? and why should i care 'not Bahamut' is wrecking 9999 flavors of shit?

some context is sorely needed here

The world of FF14 just ended, now they're rebooting the game on a new world by literally killing everyone. And making the mistake of charging a subscription fee, thus killing the likelihood that anyone new will sub.

And if it was F2P, you'd also complain that it was 'just another microtransaction-based pay-to-win MMO, like every other game being made these days.'
What magical method of funding their game do you suggest they take?

 

[EmperorSubcutaneous]

Technically, no I don't have to give them any credit whatsoever. They convinced people to spend money on a pile of crap that they promised to fix but never did, and then they later opt to close down and replace with a new game. Will they be asking people to pay for the new game, too? Why should I respect this decision when it's only a decision they had to make because they made such a terrible game to start with? >_>

And this trailer does nothing to convince me they learned from the last game, either. It's the same-old. Flashy CGI trailer with lots of pretty stuff in it, but no substance or context to any of what is happening so there's no reason for me to CARE about what's happening. And still no footage of the game itself in the trailer. I know this is becoming a "thing" but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I want to see the game I'm playing before I play it, and I can't be alone in that sentiment. So why is this okay?

I can't believe I'm actually defending SE, but here goes.

First of all, they did fix FFXIV 1.0 as much as they were able. They changed a lot about it since its original launch. The main problem was that it ran on an extremely shitty engine, which is the first thing they're changing about 2.0. From what we've seen, the new engine is better--though that honestly wouldn't be hard to pull off.

People who subscribed to the first game for 3 months since it went P2P will get a lifelong discount on 2.0. Unfortunately it will still require a monthly fee, which will drive off a ton of potential customers. Also, everyone who previously played the game will get to try it out for free for a month when it comes out, whenever that will be.

Finally, this is mislabeled as a trailer. As someone else said, it's more like a final cutscene for 2.0. It went up right after the servers closed down after the final event. 2.0 has just begun alpha testing, and there are only 2 races and 1 area available right now since they're just testing the basics. So any gameplay that currently exists in the game might be totally different when it launches.

That's assuming they actually listen to alpha and beta feedback this time, of course.

 

[EmperorSubcutaneous]

When I have to go look up the story arc of a game because its trailer revealed absolutely nothing about it, that means the trailer has failed. And that remains true whether you call it a trailer (which it is, since part of the point of making it is to attract new customers) or a cutscene.

No actually, the point is to say "here's what happened next, thank you and goodbye for now" to the people who played the final event. It's not a trailer. People are just posting it everywhere as if it were. The real trailer is going to come much later on, and that is where they're going to try to convince people to play.

As for the rest of your post, you're preaching to the choir. They haven't convinced me to play again with their new video (though like I said, that wasn't their intent), and they're going to have to pull a pretty spectacular turnabout in order to impress me, especially since I've been playing GW2 for the past 3 months. And I don't like that they're still charging a monthly fee, and I hope that they have a short open beta or some beta weekends for people who didn't buy the game in the first place.

 

[Ghostdraconi]

This trailer had me excited for a moment until I realized that

A: This was an MMO
B: Square's CGI are usually way better than the games
C: Holy World of Warcraft Cataclysm Batman

 

[bafrali]

This was like a total cataclysm

 

[NoctisXZ]

um ... ok, well it looked neat ....

but wtf just happened? and why should i care 'not Bahamut' is wrecking 9999 flavors of shit?

some context is sorely needed here

"Not Bahamut"? This is a Final Fantasy game, you silly person, it's literally Bahamut. Again.

Anyway, the reason you should care is that he's destroying the world so that FFXIV can be remade from the ground up, and it will hopefully be playable this time. If nothing else, you have to give SE credit for trying.

Technically, no I don't have to give them any credit whatsoever. They convinced people to spend money on a pile of crap that they promised to fix but never did, and then they later opt to close down and replace with a new game. Will they be asking people to pay for the new game, too? Why should I respect this decision when it's only a decision they had to make because they made such a terrible game to start with? >_>

And this trailer does nothing to convince me they learned from the last game, either. It's the same-old. Flashy CGI trailer with lots of pretty stuff in it, but no substance or context to any of what is happening so there's no reason for me to CARE about what's happening. And still no footage of the game itself in the trailer. I know this is becoming a "thing" but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I want to see the game I'm playing before I play it, and I can't be alone in that sentiment. So why is this okay?

Read the link someone else posted and you'll find the context you seek. This trailer is actually more of a final cutscene for the end of the Seventh Umbral Era story arc.

Finally, this is mislabeled as a trailer. As someone else said, it's more like a final cutscene for 2.0. It went up right after the servers closed down after the final event. 2.0 has just begun alpha testing, and there are only 2 races and 1 area available right now since they're just testing the basics. So any gameplay that currently exists in the game might be totally different when it launches.

Yes, that's precisely the problem.

When I have to go look up the story arc of a game because its trailer revealed absolutely nothing about it, that means the trailer has failed. And that remains true whether you call it a trailer (which it is, since part of the point of making it is to attract new customers) or a cutscene.

If you're trying to draw a new audience but give them no context, they have no reason to be invested or care. I don't think it makes any sense to have to look up a synopsis of the game's entire story just to understand a trailer/cutscene. That generally hasn't been true of most other MMOs, and this is something that SE has always face-planted on. They need to give people a reason to care, otherwise they're going to see the FF14 logo and say "oh, isn't this an ad for that shitty MMO? lol w/e, don't care now" and move on.

So basically: if this is Square's attempt to get people interested in their MMO again, it is very likely not going to work. They have a VERY bad reputation to get over, and 6 minutes of flashy CGI isn't going to bridge that gap.

People who subscribed to the first game for 3 months since it went P2P will get a lifelong discount on 2.0. Unfortunately it will still require a monthly fee, which will drive off a ton of potential customers. Also, everyone who previously played the game will get to try it out for free for a month when it comes out, whenever that will be.

So basically, yes, they will still expect people to pay for this new game.

Which instantly screws them over, because very few people (except FF's most dedicated fans, i.e. the folks who were likely already playing the first game) are going to run to play another FF14 after the DISMAL reviews and infamous internet reputation of the first game released under the FF14 name. Like it or not, they have a nasty rep to overcome.

Look, it may well be a great game, but that's not what's important. What matters is them marketing the game to outsiders. And as for me, I might have even given them a shot if they had switched to a F2P system so I could try it out and see if they've made a game worth playing this time....but I'm absolutely not paying an upfront and monthly fee on a game which is proudly declaring itself as the spiritual sequel to one of the worst MMOs in recent years. And I know I'm not the only one who thinks this. Very likely there's a lot of folks who didn't even click the link to look at the trailer because of the game's name alone.

Face it: they burned a lot of folks with their last game, so it's up to them to convince them to come back.

"Please pay monthly, like you did with the last game! We swear we got it right this time, honest!" is not a good way to convince them to come back.

Neither is "Look at our flashy CGI trailer/cutscene and pretentious soundtrack, none of which you'll understand unless you've read the plot synopsis for our old game!".

You know.. I've never felt so compelled to create an account on a forum for the sole purpose of combating the statements of another. But here I am...

I must first admit that I absolutely love the Final Fantasy series.. including 14, but not at first. At launch it was a spectacular failure of epic proportions... but slowly over time it steadily improved as much as it possibly could given certain limitations. And during these growing pains if you will the game went free to play.. we weren't charged a single cent until it reached a point where subscriptions could be reinstated.

Before you begin to verbally bash a game I'd suggest you find out the facts because frankly you're coming off as someone who just hates SE or Final Fantasy in general. When 2.0 launches EVERYONE who had purchased 1.0 will NOT be charged.. so thank you for demonstrating your ignorance. And I find you're argument somewhat confusing to be honest. Are you trying to say that SE should have just let the game burn because it was so terrible instead of fix it? I'm sorry.. but when I buy something and it doesn't work I expect it to be fixed without charge.. and what do you know. That's exactly what has/is happening!

The "trailer" isn't even really a trailer to begin with. It's more like a farewell for all of those who have stuck around and hung in there with the game to see it through the changes.. Showcasing the final moments of a world before it is reformed for the relaunch of the game.

I mean.. like I said. I don't know if you just hate anything Final Fantasy or have somehow rationalized any of this. I think most level headed people understand that this isn't really meant to showcase the game itself but to generate a buzz.. like with any other game in general when it comes to this type of thing. Do you ever really get a full understanding of what the hell is going on in most game trailers? Not really.. but it DOES get you excited for the game in most cases... and it seems this "trailer" has done the same. Even if that's not what it really is...

I don't even really know how to address your second post really.. you just come off as so anti-FF it's somewhat funny to be honest with you. If you can't understand the general theme of the "trailer" then you're frankly kind of dumb. You see two sides clashing in battle.. you see fire raining down from the sky and destroying things... you see a big baddy proceeding to wreck the place. So to say it revealed nothing is silly. You can glean the basic idea of what's going on from that and that's more then enough considering it was meant for those of us who stuck around with the game.

I just.. if you don't like a game that's absolutely fine. But making up bogus excuses as to why it's shit just rubs me the wrong way. Even if you hate SE you have to give them props... they've made a new game from scratch pretty much while simultaneously adding content/improving on the original game... all while not charging a subscription free for most of the process.

I don't like WoW but I'm not going to use your same excuse about having to look up lore to justify why it sucks. They're virtually the same thing. Big ass dragon comes out and wrecks shit.. you might have to look up lore to understand who they are or how it happened. But if you can't get the idea of what's going on in either that's just to bad.