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95spartans

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1:50. requisat en pace?

That has to be a reference in assassins creed. It's not uncommon for someone to do that, but for them to put it in the trailer is a bit too much of a coincidence I think.
 

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OK, so I know some people have been badly offended by this trailer, as they have every right to be. But I have to say than the thing that stands out most to me is the fact that all of the "nuns" are in high heels. The leather outfits and fishnets they can get away with, because at least they're practical and give them a good cover, but high heels?! That's not being "combat ready". You'd think that they'd be a little more careful around an agent with a reputation like he's James Bond.
 

Reincarnatedwolfgod

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why were they wearing those fetish outfits and dressed as nuns?
they gave no context for this
i see why there is a controversy. it's because they gave no context and people made up there own. i am not even sure it is possible to give a logical context to it

over all i don't see any controversy but this trailer left me confused me and thinking the creator of the trailer are just stupid or it was made for shock value
 

Rigs83

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That was ridiculous. First no one in there right minds go's into a firefight in high heels let alone fetish wear, second assuming these are professionals why did no one check their six i.e. look behind themselves to see if a witness or policeman or bald headed assassin was getting the drop on them and third where the hell did that chick hide the rpg!
 

RonHiler

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I like it. If the nuns around here dressed in high heels and garter belts, I'd be a lot more religious.
 

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I hope that's just marketing and not... like... what the game is going to be. If this just turns into a bunch of cover-based shooting, giant explosions and tits I'm going to be angry.

Blood Money wasn't exactly modest in terms of the wardrobe at points, but it stopped short of kung-fu fetish gear nuns.

95spartans said:
1:50. requisat en pace?

That has to be a reference in assassins creed. It's not uncommon for someone to do that, but for them to put it in the trailer is a bit too much of a coincidence I think.
"Rest in peace" isn't necessarily a reference to AC, even if it's said in latin. It's not out of place given the religious theme in the game.
 

DuskServent

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A lot of things come to mind when I saw this, such as:

"What the hell?" and the good ole favorite of "Why boner why!?"

What was the need to put fetish nuns/ninja babes?
I'm so confused...
 

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ElPatron said:
Kenjitsuka said:
Sidenote to Hollywood and game makers; Nuns do not dress like that anymore, and appearantly have not for a long time. At least that's what I've heard.
Actually, they do. Just not in the United States.

I don't know of any law that prohibits foreign nuns from dressing like that.
While partly true, the ones that still wear the more traditional style habit (aka, what this trailer shows) tend to be located in more isolated locations that rarely, if ever, interact with the outside world. Think the type of spot that is very remote that is largely able to look after it's on small needs (like a mountain top).

Otherwise, nuns generally wear clothes that while simple, can let them move about without issue and are not really a uniform. This is a change that has happened following Vatican II (Second Vatican Council), and did lead to a somewhat spilt between those who felt the Catholic Church needs to be more flexiable with the times and those who felt that it was a betrayal of long held values.

Note, all of these points are simply stating facts and are are not there to lead into anything with that upcoming discussion I know this threat is going to hit sooner then later.
 

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Okay, first thing's first, I'll give it Spoony for helping me out here by summing up my opinion on this travesty.


Why is this a betrayal? Oh my poor ignorant fools, I shall tell you why.

This is NOT what Hitman is about. The Hitman games have always been about cold, calculated kills there is none of this Die Hard style shoot-'em-up, outdated 80's movie bullshit in the games. The game actively penalized you if you so much as thought about taking out an M16. Sure, it gave you the option but if you have to use a gun AT ALL then you're clearly not smart enough to play the game as it's meant to be played.

Hitman is about patience and studying your target, it's about planning your actions and forming a strategy in order to take out the mark without anyone even knowing what happened or even think that it was because someone actually did it. Y'know, like a real professional killer and not some dime-a-dozen murderer.

Every mission in the series was set up so you can make every death look like an accident so nobody would even suspect that you were ever there. It is entirely possible (and advised) to go into every mission with nothing more than the syringes, the fiber wire and a couple of bombs, that's literally all you need.

Anyone who's played the previous games knows that it's about stealth first and that includes how you take out your targets, it's more a puzzle game than an action game because you're supposed to look at what's in the environment and then figure out how you can use it. Like when you swapped the fake gun for a real one to take out an overacting stage performer before detonating a bomb to drop a chandelier onto his lover's head as he rushes out to see what's wrong with his boyfriend. The whole thing will look like an accident.

They don't show you the newspapers for no reason, it's to show you if anyone is onto you and how long it'll be before they come to catch you, if you did everything correctly and made it look like an accident then you wouldn't even be mentioned in the papers, it would just be another "tragic accident". That's what a professional killer does, THAT'S WHY YOU GET PAID FOR THIS SHIT, because there's absolutely no way it's going to get linked back to your client if nobody suspects murder, is there?

Also this Batman vision bullshit, what is this? Why is it here? What happened to my map? Why are the patrol paths of every NPC mapped out like a fucking paint-by-numbers colouring book? How does that even fucking work? Do you know how absolutely offensive that is? This is two great big middle fingers right up the ass to every player who felt the rush of sneaking up behind a bodyguard or target that you need out of the way. Everyone of us who slowly crept up behind them with the fiber wire at the ready chanting "please don't turn around, please don't turn around" over and over in our heads and adding a massive amount of tension to the missions.

Now what have we got? We've got a diluted version where we don't even have to make any effort to take someone out, which also means that it's actually ENCOURAGED that you take out innocent people with nothing to do with the intended target. In the old games you didn't do this because you wanted to, it was a last resort, if you could you'd avoid it as much as possible. In this version you're pretty much told to strangle any fucker just because they're there.

In the old games it's a bad thing to take out non-essential people because not only are they just the average working Joe Nobody who you've not been hired to take out, but more importantly: they're also a liability.

Every body you stash in a dumpster or laundry chute is another piece of evidence that's going to harm your ability to do your job professionally, which as I've said, means that nobody suspects foul play. Who the hell's going to not think that the target was murdered when they find the chef's body crumpled up in the laundry room like an old sock? That not only makes you a bad Hitman and no better than a petty thug, it also means that your client will be under suspicion.

I don't care if everyone in the entire building is a Nazi, I'm not going to kill any one of them unless I seriously have to and if I do, I will have to restart the mission to try and get a perfect run. It was exciting to sneak up behind someone and Garrote them, I agree, but it's also completely wrong and even though a "Game Over" screen isn't flashing up on the screen you can still be damn sure that the moment you've got to take out a non-essential target then you've failed the mission. I'm not getting paid to kill the underlings and by-standers, I'm being paid to kill the mark, everything else is murder, the mark's just business.

So, yeah, this is a massive slap in the face for any fan of the original games. It's a complete betrayal of everything established beforehand and it's a massive dumbing down of what once was a very intelligent series of games.

Hitman, I am disappoint.
 

leviadragon99

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Dropped by here to see what all the fuss was about... yeah this is pretty stupid, offensive and nonsensical.
 

mdqp

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I don't know. I mean, I am all for leather-clad nuns in real life (I have been promoting such an endeaveour for years), but in a videogame? Sounds a little tasteless (murdering is fine, he is a murderer, so it's kind of an old news). :p

In all seriousness, though, marketing in all kind of products is kind of bad recently, not just in the videogame industry, so I wouldn't be too upset about that. What I might be upset about is if that trailer showcase the direction the gameplay is really going. It would be just bad taste if this is "for the lulz", but if this is a declaration of intents, the game is officially off my buying list.

k-ossuburb makes several good points, so I am not going to repeat them, but I fully agree with him.