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Hitman: Absolution - Trailer

The latest in the Hitman franchise. Apparently now it's stealthy to jump through a plate glass window.

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I love the Hitman franchise to a fairly insane degree, but this is setting off quite a few alarm bells in my head. Provided I can still stealth through levels the way I could in the other games, I'll buy it. If it turns out they've dumbed it down or tacked on mandatory action sequences, I will not be happy. Don't fuck with the formula for perfection.
 

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Again, as I said before. That mission with the police? It seemed like one of the first missions because it was so damn scripted. Blood money did the same thing, we can stay calm for now.
 

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The 15 minute or so gameplay was a bit different from the previous Hitman games, tho i don't say it as a bad thing. Tho I'm not really sure it's good, either. I mean the part where you run trough the room and a helicopter sprays bullets at you was very cool and action-y, but not exactly the style the previous games favored.
Anyways, I guess we'll wait and see. Looking forward to it.
 

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Regenerating health? See-through walls? Drawing lines to show patrol routes?

Quite a few bells going off...

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
Regenerating health? See-through walls? Drawing lines to show patrol routes?

Quite a few bells going off...

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I liked the gameplay. The "x-ray vision" that draws patrol routes is supposed to be called "instinct mode" or something like that, and quite frankly, it, for the most part, is reasonable. You're not forced to use it, and its there for players who aren't so good. It provides an assist to not-so-great players, but if you don't need it, go challenge yourself further. I couldn't see anything to tell me there isn't regenerating health. I find that unfortunate, but so be it. Like previous installments, Agent 47 feels powerful, but isn't god-like, and you need the stealth to get through on harder difficulties. A very hard balance to strike in games like this. I don't see whats so bad. I mean, you could be a bullet-sponge in previous games too. Looks alright to me.

Edit: I do hate the raspy voice. It seems toe be an unwritten rule somewhere that if you're the protagonist in a stealth game, you must have a scratchy voice. Just once something normal please.
 

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- No Agent 47 (as in the voice actor, David Bateson)
- No Diana (again, voice actor, Vivienne McKee)
- Only set in the US (loved feeling like an actual international assassin in the original games, and virtually seeing Russia, India, Japan, Saudi Arabia, South America...)
- Detective-Vision (would do fine if it was a different character, but come on; even the gameplay looks like arkham asylum.)
- No Map (I MEAN, COME ON, WHAT THE HELL; WHY WOULD YOU REPLACE THE BLOODY MAP WITH STUPID X-RAY VISION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!)
- No manual save games ("ooh, instinct will make the game easier for new players, and not affect pro's--WELL TAKING AWAY THE SAVE FUNCTION MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR NEW PLAYERS, AND DOESN'T DO A THING TO THE PRO'S, so you're talking out of your arse.)
- "Tag and Kill", and according to Wikipedia, that's something similar to tag and kill found in Red Dead Redemption, so, we've got Batman and we've got Rockstar. What next.
- No Jesper Kyd--WHAT?!! WHAT?!?!?!?! YOU GOT RID OF $*@%#@ING JESPER KYD?!!? THE COMPOSER OF THE AWESOME #$@#%ING MUSIC FROM SILENT ASSASSIN?!?! WHAT!?!


Anywho, I'll watch a few more videos before I declare that it sucks completely. Hell, it'll probably be an alright and functional game...

..just not a Hitman game.
 

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Ugh... The 15min gameplay vid makes it look like a stealthystealthhideintheshadowsthenACTION type of game, much like the last Splinter Cell. Which was a fun game, but I don't think this suits Hitman AT ALL.

Hitman is supposed to be about dressing up as the waiter and poisoning the food. Or rigging the chandelier as a trap. Or turning up the thermostat in the sauna and blocking the door.

UnderCoverGuest said:
- No Agent 47 (as in the voice actor, David Bateson)
- No Diana (again, voice actor, Vivienne McKee)
- Only set in the US (loved feeling like an actual international assassin in the original games, and virtually seeing Russia, India, Japan, Saudi Arabia, South America...)
- Detective-Vision (would do fine if it was a different character, but come on; even the gameplay looks like arkham asylum.)
- No Map (I MEAN, COME ON, WHAT THE HELL; WHY WOULD YOU REPLACE THE BLOODY MAP WITH STUPID X-RAY VISION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!)
- No manual save games ("ooh, instinct will make the game easier for new players, and not affect pro's--WELL TAKING AWAY THE SAVE FUNCTION MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR NEW PLAYERS, AND DOESN'T DO A THING TO THE PRO'S, so you're talking out of your arse.)
- "Tag and Kill", and according to Wikipedia, that's something similar to tag and kill found in Red Dead Redemption, so, we've got Batman and we've got Rockstar. What next.
- No Jesper Kyd--WHAT?!! WHAT?!?!?!?! YOU GOT RID OF $*@%#@ING JESPER KYD?!!? THE COMPOSER OF THE AWESOME #$@#%ING MUSIC FROM SILENT ASSASSIN?!?! WHAT!?!


Anywho, I'll watch a few more videos before I declare that it sucks completely. Hell, it'll probably be an alright and functional game...

..just not a Hitman game.
wotwotwotwot????

No original voice actors or Jesper Kyd? That, plus this drastic drastic change in gameplay is starting to get me very worried. And where's the cheesewire? It's not Hitman without the cheesewire :(

I am a massive Hitman fan ever since I played the demo for the first game and just replayed that triad mission over and over.

I'll give the game the benefit of the doubt out of love, but if it's been dumbed down into a fun but brainless stealth-em-up (like Splinter Cell) there will be hell to pay...
 

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UnderCoverGuest said:
- No Agent 47 (as in the voice actor, David Bateson)
- No Diana (again, voice actor, Vivienne McKee)
- Only set in the US (loved feeling like an actual international assassin in the original games, and virtually seeing Russia, India, Japan, Saudi Arabia, South America...)
- Detective-Vision (would do fine if it was a different character, but come on; even the gameplay looks like arkham asylum.)
- No Map (I MEAN, COME ON, WHAT THE HELL; WHY WOULD YOU REPLACE THE BLOODY MAP WITH STUPID X-RAY VISION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!)
- No manual save games ("ooh, instinct will make the game easier for new players, and not affect pro's--WELL TAKING AWAY THE SAVE FUNCTION MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR NEW PLAYERS, AND DOESN'T DO A THING TO THE PRO'S, so you're talking out of your arse.)
- "Tag and Kill", and according to Wikipedia, that's something similar to tag and kill found in Red Dead Redemption, so, we've got Batman and we've got Rockstar. What next.
- No Jesper Kyd--WHAT?!! WHAT?!?!?!?! YOU GOT RID OF $*@%#@ING JESPER KYD?!!? THE COMPOSER OF THE AWESOME #$@#%ING MUSIC FROM SILENT ASSASSIN?!?! WHAT!?!


Anywho, I'll watch a few more videos before I declare that it sucks completely. Hell, it'll probably be an alright and functional game...

..just not a Hitman game.
And this wall of complaints, forumites, is why I bash my head into the wall when people judge a game based on a trailer, especially a theatrical trailer.

Have you actually gone and do that thing people do with games, what's the word... "play"? Have you played it yet?

And where are you ever getting half of these things? Out of your ass? They're not going to show every single feature in the game. And I understand being upset about a change in voice actor/actress, but that doesn't invalidate it as a member of a series.
 

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MisterDyslexo said:
And this wall of complaints, forumites, is why I bash my head into the wall when people judge a game based on a trailer, especially a theatrical trailer.

Have you actually gone and do that thing people do with games, what's the word... "play"? Have you played it yet?

And where are you ever getting half of these things? Out of your ass? They're not going to show every single feature in the game. And I understand being upset about a change in voice actor/actress, but that doesn't invalidate it as a member of a series.
We may be commenting on a news story about a trailer, but there is a 17min gameplay video out there. I think it's enough to draw some conlusions from. And the info is well sourced from comments made by IO (see the game's wiki page for citations).

People who have actually, y'know, "played" the previous games have cause to be worried about these changes.
 

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EvilPicnic said:
[We may be commenting on a news story about a trailer, but there is a 17min gameplay video out there. I think it's enough to draw some conlusions from. And the info is well sourced from comments made by IO (see the game's wiki page for citations).

People who have actually, y'know, "played" the previous games have cause to be worried about these changes.
If we all judged games based on the first fifteen minutes, a lot of people would have never played Mass Effect or Dragon Age Origins. You probably would have ditched Hitman Blood Money. I mean, do you remember that first level? It was a tutorial. Just like this is just a little PR show-off tutorial-esque video. And I can not stress it enough, don't knock it until you've tried it. People might grief over "x" or "y", but when they get to try it, they like it more than ever before. Not all change is bad, you know. Without attempts to make the game better, it stagnates. And true, "better" is different for everybody, but ultimately if you're intelligent you'll judge it for yourself when the game is actually out. Otherwise, you'll be like all the other people who shriek and cry when a game changes from its formula even slightly, because its stagnating among the greater playerbase, and bring about the series' demise.
 

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Mr.Tea said:
Uh, none of these things are likely to have been surmised form a trailer... Sounds more like a collection of pre-release information gotten from interviews and articles.

None of it is unreasonable conjecture and you know the biggest sign this game will not live up to the series?
Two Kane&Lynch games.
It's not such a problem when a developer studio takes a gamble on a new IP and makes a mediocre game; that stuff happens.
It's great cause for concern however when those developers then choose to make a second piece of shit over continuing an established, successful and well-received series of theirs. And when they do get to work on continuing that good series, they then omit a great deal of what has consistently made it good in the first place.

Of course we haven't played it yet, but for fucks sake, how can we not be apprehensive?
Well, let me put it this way:

a) Its a gameplay trailer. You know videogames. YOu know what these are. You should know better than to judge a game based off of that.

b) I don't even know what you're really judging. Pretty much everything I've seen in the past installments makes a return in this game. What exactly are they omitting? I'veplayed the Hitman games, not too much is missing. I didn't see hiding bodies, but I would guess that its not exactly in the best interest of time to drag a body when there are thirty cops looking for you. That, and it really makes for a boring gameplay demonstration. If somebody demonstrated playing Fallout 3, they wouldn't loot every single body, would they?

c) The formula of the game is broken? I don't quite see how. Was it when you took the cop? Well, how else are they going to show off how to take a human shield? They're not just gonna grab one for shits and giggles, they're gonna show it has a purpose. He got up that initial stairwell without getting shot, didn't he? The helicopter thing, I can see where you're coming from there. But thats the only spot. I don't see how it adds in any way, really. I don't see that anywhere else.

d) You've yet to play the game. Speculate all you want, but never make a final judgment. I've done that before-"This game is gonna be great", and it sucked. Or "This game don't look to good", and it blew me out of the water. Hell, I first played Bioshock in a demo. the demo sucked man, it sucked. And I like Bioshock not just for the plot, but because of the gameplay too. It really paid off for me in that instance to keep an open mind.
 

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That didn't look stealthy at all! It's not just me right? That trailer didn't show any stealth gameplay, AT ALL!
 

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InGrindWeTrust said:
I love the Hitman franchise to a fairly insane degree, but this is setting off quite a few alarm bells in my head. Provided I can still stealth through levels the way I could in the other games, I'll buy it. If it turns out they've dumbed it down or tacked on mandatory action sequences, I will not be happy. Don't fuck with the formula for perfection.
Hopefully they'll be scared off that idea by the massive backlash against the abortion that was Deus Ex: Revolutions Boss fights
 

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gyroscopeboy said:
InGrindWeTrust said:
I love the Hitman franchise to a fairly insane degree, but this is setting off quite a few alarm bells in my head. Provided I can still stealth through levels the way I could in the other games, I'll buy it. If it turns out they've dumbed it down or tacked on mandatory action sequences, I will not be happy. Don't fuck with the formula for perfection.
Hopefully they'll be scared off that idea by the massive backlash against the abortion that was Deus Ex: Revolutions Boss fights
They already had massive backlash from mandatory action scenes from the first two Hitman games. It's a mistake they haven't made since.