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I care about 2:33-2:33.4 and nothing else.
GG Namco Bandai, GG.

Why can't you acknowledge that Tira is the only character worth showing to me?

Anyone that shares a voice with Commander Sheppard is bound to be totally awesome, more so if they are psychotic and cut people with bladed rings while remarking about how much fun they are having in a poisonously cheerful voice.
 

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I only played Soul Blade (PS1) and Soul Calibur (DC), but what has happened to Taki? Her hair :(
 

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So they had pretty much ran out of ideas to use unique weapons for the new characters?

That mage girl is the only unique character (is she using a glass orb or is that orb made from energy?) and while it may seen unrealised but consider that Ivy got a sword that can be split into a bladed whip and still function as a whip than I'm fine with that mage.

By all means I'm not dismissing using the same weapons since they probably have a different fighting style but one of the things I like about Soul Calibur is that each character had they their own distinct weapon to use. Sure some of them use swords but that type of sword were different to each character.
 

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What's with all this shouting about Nightmare. He's already been confirmed, he's in. Oh, but he's not in the trailer... Boohoohoo. Sheesh.

SC2 was cool. I pick these games up and have some fun with them. Interested to see how this one will pan out.

This Patroklos guy has me weirded out, I like VF's Lion, I like Tekken's Leo (ie. VF's Lion with VF's Akira moveset only it's a butch girl instead of a girly dude) so I should like this guy as well because he's basically the same type of character again but it doesn't seem to work somehow.
NLS said:
I only played Soul Blade (PS1) and Soul Calibur (DC), but what has happened to Taki? Her hair :(
It isn't Taki but apparently her apprentice called Natsu...

And yes, I had the same reaction.
 
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I kinda wish in some ways the game would go back to the way it was. CC is fine for casual fans and people into that sort of thing but I hope this doesn't have any shitty guest characters. Also on the petition to get the game going again that was only after it was stated that they would only bother with another one if their was still interest and personally I would rather seem them go with a Bang rather than the more of a whimper of SCIV.
 

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Loop Stricken said:
I do so apologise, sir, for calling out a company promoting their product with substandard footage. It's not like I've been playing this series since the original Soul Blade and thus would like the next iteration to look decent, heavens no...
Oh wait.
You playing a game does in no way make you informed on it's production cycle, nor does it change the reality of the production cycle. Everyone eats food, few understand the process of proper cooking to make a good meal.
 

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XD Grew up in the 90s, Grunge was king. Nowadays, its just not the popular and cool thing to admit you liked. And AiC arguably my favorite band, or at least places top 3.

comet5002 said:
WHERE'S TALIM.

If this game discludes Talim, I won't even dignify it with a Gamefly rental. SC4 sucked enough.
At the moment, shes unannounced, but she'd takea drastic change for being 17 years older. However, they're not going to have Xianghua, and instead of her daughter, so maybe talim wont make the cut. She's not exactly iconic other then being one of the lower tier characters.

Scarim Coral said:
So they had pretty much ran out of ideas to use unique weapons for the new characters?

That mage girl is the only unique character (is she using a glass orb or is that orb made from energy?) ...
Well, the other new guy (ZWEI) has this odd looking sword and uses a demon werewolf named <url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110805082732/soulcalibur/images/3/37/PiQ7JDpB4Vq69nc5XOe4zcm7Ymv7O2oJ.jpg>EIN. Which makes him kinda unique.

And yes, that is magic, similar to those magic bullets that Algol liked to shoot from time to time in SC IV.
 

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Woah! Who's the sorcerer chick? I saw someone say her name was viola, right? Maybe she was made to remind us of Algol? Maybe not, but regardless, Patroklos seems to have a non-feminine fighting style at this point in development, which is good because now I can make a copy of Zelos Wilder without him seeming any gayer (no offense intended) than his outfit would suggest.

It's only pure speculation on my part, but I think that there's a chance that Namco will put Taki in as a palette swap on Natsu for competitive play. I can certainly be wrong, but it would seem like a practical move. Keep the old character in the game and have a new face as well.
 

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Hitman Dread said:
Loop Stricken said:
I do so apologise, sir, for calling out a company promoting their product with substandard footage. It's not like I've been playing this series since the original Soul Blade and thus would like the next iteration to look decent, heavens no...
Oh wait.
You playing a game does in no way make you informed on it's production cycle, nor does it change the reality of the production cycle. Everyone eats food, few understand the process of proper cooking to make a good meal.

But odds are I know substandard ingredients when I taste them.

You do seem overly defensive when all I've said is that this trailer is not doing a very good job of selling the game to me.
 

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um... TWO characters uses sword+shield (recycle?)... and there is no one use a flail, what about two samurai swords? Notachi? Have the SC team ever think about putting guns/firearms in to the mix? or at lease a man with a tower shield, like a crusader? short axe? there are MANY weaponry that had not been in video games that rooted in the Chinese martial arts that had not been thought to be put in a game... check the Shao-lin's 18 divisions of martial arts... we have like... 5-6? you know we are all out of weapon style ideas when you decides to make a character that uses magical ball...

"prepare to taste the (blade)ball of mine!~"

"...little girl alone? coming to fight? She's got balls..." (she popes out er magic ball) (ROFL warrior)

yeh... put a guy that uses guns... I'll then put this up on equal ground with Toshinden3...
 

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I'm not as exited for this game as I had hoped :(
I really hope they didn't ruin Seong Mina, her fighting style and costume from 3 and 4 were awesome!
also Cervantes looks horrible, sigh I'm still gonna buy it I just hope they don't keep disappointing

If Star Wars characters make it in this game will suck major, specially now that they got so many Queen's Blade/Gate characters they can use
 

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punipunipyo said:
... Have the SC team ever think about putting guns/firearms in to the mix? ... put a guy that uses guns... ...
Congrats, you've been recruited to the pirate crew of the
<spoiler=Cervantes>http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080423064116/soulcalibur/images/2/23/Sc4-cervantes.jpg
the man who has been using a GUN SWORD. And not the bullshit Gunsword Squall likes to parade around and act like he could actually functionally use it. a practical gun sword.

And algol was so desperate to use a gun that he physically turns his arm into a cannon to fuck your day up.

punipunipyo said:
... short axe? ...
Hey, guess who wants to meet you!
<spoiler=This Scaly bachelor is only trying to show that he is human once again, and perhaps murder a god>http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080330051328/soulcalibur/images/f/f3/Sc4-lizardman.jpg

now I'll grant you, he as a shield, but thats more his backstory then his choice. you could easily substitute that for a second axe and he would play the same, if not more brutally.

punipunipyo said:
... what about two samurai swords? ...
Have I got the lady for you.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080803193534/soulcalibur/images/3/3a/182.jpg
Shes got, four swords. And uses two katana?

punipunipyo said:
... and there is no one use a flail, ...
Hm...
*looks at weapons lists for characters*

Maxi
- Modified Flail
<quote=Soul Calibur wiki>A European weapon consisting of a long rod chained to a short rod with an attached point. It is swung while gripping the longer stick. This particular one is an experimental weapon created by Maxi by cutting down the size of the longer end to convert it into a nunchaku. Since it was not designed to be used this way, if not handled skillfully it will injure the wielder instead.

the modified flail has a slightly longer reach and heaver hit than maxi's normal weapon, but allows damage through when blocking.

- Fuzoroi
<quote=Soul Calibur Wiki>An unusually-shaped nunchaku with two differently-sized rods. Like a Western flail, it is used by gripping the longer end and swinging it. It appears to have been created primarily as a foot soldier weapon. Its weight balance is poor, and using it to defend against attacks is difficult.

Ivy
- Chained Flail
<quote=Soul Calibur Wiki>While its outward appearance is that of a spiked-ball mace, it is in fact an experimental weapon with a multi-jointed handle. Its reach combined with the destructive power of the heavy ball make it a devastating weapon, but wielding it is extremely difficult, and it is said to have caused more damage to allies than it has to enemies. It is considered a complete failure.

I see... three flails. I've also seen such weapons as the fans, tamborines, the bladed fighting shoes, A large and imposing scythe, a segmented sickle, a dual wave swords, katana and shuriken, and the dagger and bomb combo. Seems like there's quite a bit of weapon variation, it just seems that none were popular enough to continue.
 

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She attacks with magic. Thats bullshit! BULLSHIT I say!
As a fan of both Soul Calibur and essentially everything that Arc System Works does (I know this game is by Namco, I'm just saying Arc's work is often like some kind of opiate fiend's fever dream) I'd like to say that I for one approve of things getting crazier and more off the wall. This kind of thing makes me more excited for the game. Strange but true.
 

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Ghengis John said:
emeraldrafael said:
She attacks with magic. Thats bullshit! BULLSHIT I say!
As a fan of both Soul Calibur and essentially everything that arc system works does I'd like to say that I for one approve of things getting crazier and more off the wall. This kind of thing makes me more excited for the game. Strange but true.
I just dont see why you cant cut out the middle man nad just use those claws. or just bring in freddie and jason as youre two characters. the only other person who's really used this kinda weapon is algol, and hes supposed to be OP'd. Plus they're (potentially) ruining a character in Amy, who is deep and has history. Its not all that this a dumb weapon (though really, it seems like it, cause how are you going to have different weapons for her?) but that the new guy is throwing what Soul Calibur was out, and now is even making excuses for himself in case th game sucks that he so willingly took.

I guess I just dont like the character in general (along with a great many other things), but particularly her weapon bothers me about her. And if she does turn out to be amy, but with the age old trump card of "I haz amnesia" that people like to tear into as a plot device, I'll hate her even more.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
I just dont see why you cant cut out the middle man nad just use those claws.
Well we don't know that she won't be using them for any attacks. And then again the claws might be needed to control the orb.

or just bring in freddie and jason as youre two characters.
Ugh no. Guest characters should be put to a minimum and I really wouldn't want those two anyhow.

the only other person who's really used this kinda weapon is algol, and hes supposed to be OP'd.
Well you know, he had a lot of problems, and while the bubbles were bad it wasn't just relating to the orbs either. I hear that his 3A had some monstrous properties for instance. For that matter though he wasn't swinging the orbs about and the biggest problem was that he had more than one. His bubbles were projectiles too. While they might explain it in game as the same principal, her orb doesn't seem to be behaving like his bubbles did so I think it's too early to call the play style.

Plus they're (potentially) ruining a character in Amy, who is deep and has history. Its not all that this a dumb weapon (though really, it seems like it, cause how are you going to have different weapons for her?) but that the new guy is throwing what Soul Calibur was out, and now is even making excuses for himself in case th game sucks that he so willingly took.
Well we don't know about that, we'll just have to wait and see won't we? As for the different weapons we've been there with Necrid (not to bring up any bad memories involved with him but) different colored orbs is an easy solution. Maybe a snowglobe for a joke weapon. Doesn't seem that hard to do.

I guess I just dont like the character in general (along with a great many other things), but particularly her weapon bothers me about her. And if she does turn out to be amy, but with the age old trump card of "I haz amnesia" that people like to tear into as a plot device, I'll hate her even more.
Again, we don't know. If she is Amy there might be a perfectly valid story driven reason for why she's using a different name... and wearing a hood. It's almost like she doesn't want to be recognized eh? I have to add something though, and I hope that you catch this edit and that's this:

idlemind said:
This is a fighting game.

Having your own style DOES make you your own character. Infact that is the only defining point of it.

She is just "Amy" in character model and in all likelyhood, story as well; but given that those things have the weight of a feather next to fighting style/playability; it's hardly worth worrying about. So what if she is Amy, anyways? I care about how she plays.

What makes me happy is her being Amy implies the SC4 Amy style is dead and buried, and I can't tell you how happy that makes so many of us tournament players. So this is like a double helping of good news, Amy is "dead", style wise, and we get something all new. Win/Win.

-Idle
Jabberwock King said:
It's only pure speculation on my part, but I think that there's a chance that Namco will put Taki in as a palette swap on Natsu for competitive play. I can certainly be wrong, but it would seem like a practical move. Keep the old character in the game and have a new face as well.
My friend, I would not be surprised at all if we saw that sort of thing as DLC.
 

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Anyone know if they're bringing back any of the game modes that got taken out of SCIV or SC3? Like tag battles and what not?
 

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I'll say first off, sorry I didnt respond to this till now. I wasnt sure if I wanted to, and when i decided i did, I wanted to try and make it a logical reason and not just come off as sounding like a hating fan boy.

Ghengis John said:
Well we don't know that she won't be using them for any attacks. And then again the claws might be needed to control the orb.
I still dont see the need for the orb then. I just feel those cat claws can be a better weapon, and more interesting then orbs. Yeah, it looks like Voldo's weapon, but to have that personal style of cat claws would just seem better then using an orb to bash your opponent. But then again, thats probably just me being me. maybe once I play with it, i may like it, but I just dont care for the way I've seen it so far.

Ugh no. Guest characters should be put to a minimum and I really wouldn't want those two anyhow.

Well viola's not a guest character, she's just a new one. so far as I know, guest characters havent been announced yet. Im just saying, why cant you (though I guess people would be sick of them since at least freddie was in the new MK game). There will probbly be one each game, and maybe a second that is unlocked in both games (they way they did in SC IV).

Well you know, he had a lot of problems, and while the bubbles were bad it wasn't just relating to the orbs either. I hear that his 3A had some monstrous properties for instance. For that matter though he wasn't swinging the orbs about and the biggest problem was that he had more than one. His bubbles were projectiles too. While they might explain it in game as the same principal, her orb doesn't seem to be behaving like his bubbles did so I think it's too early to call the play style.

its not about algol being OPd. Just that hes the only other guy that uses orbs weve seen. See above for my feelings ont he orb itself as the weapon.

Well we don't know about that, we'll just have to wait and see won't we? As for the different weapons we've been there with Necrid (not to bring up any bad memories involved with him but) different colored orbs is an easy solution. Maybe a snowglobe for a joke weapon. Doesn't seem that hard to do.

tahts such a cheap out though. Algol was the same way, so were the star wars characters. It justs eems like such a cheap way.

and already we do know he is making excuses, he already blamed time (despite knowing how much hed have) and not having enough.

Again, we don't know. If she is Amy there might be a perfectly valid story driven reason for why she's using a different name... and wearing a hood. It's almost like she doesn't want to be recognized eh? I have to add something though, and I hope that you catch this edit and that's this

This isnt supposed to be about her not wanting to be recognized (if it is amy). Viola's character is quoted from her page to have amnesia:

<quote=Viola Soul Calibur Wiki Page>Viola suffers from amnesia and does not remember her origin or past life

idlemind said:
i get all that. Its not the styled Im worried about losing (though I do like that rapier style both she and Raphael use. In fact, I kicked plenty of ass with Amy just fromt he practice i had with her, and she was one of my most winning fighters). Its the story. And I get it, this is a fighting game, why would you want story here or why is it important. Its just two people beating each other up (unrealistically herpy derp laughter) at the end of the day.

Now Im not saying thats what the person you quoted said, and certainly not what you yourself said. its just a common argument that I feel compelled to add in when I say story in fighting games. and the Soul Edge/Soul Calibur franchise has always been good on stories. You look at Seigfried and thats the classic Greek Hero arc. Its overconfidence, descent to evil, the plagued mind, separation of identity to confront the evil, and finally the final battle to vanquish your evil (all told through SE, SC I-IV respectively).

You look at raphael and Amy and thats the classic love story. the disgraced noble who finds the peasant girl he deeply loves and would do anything for her to keep her safe, while she simply wants him to be safe from himself and his ambitions so she may keep the man she loves.

Ivy is confronting the demons of your heritage and family, Xiangua is the plucky heroine who wants to save everyone so they dont have to fight for her and be hurt, Sophitia is the tale of a woman who grows to a mother with a horrible past, Cassandra is saving that woman and her family, shouldering the burden she believes is unfairly placed by the gods upon her sister, Aeon Calcos (lizardman for this not in the know or that dont geek on this series) is about finding your humanity and seeking vengence or retribution from a god that had wronged you.

Theres just a lot of story in this, and this Daishi fuck is just tossing it all out. Seigfried has no purpose in Soul Cal V, his story as its been defined by the games to us is over. a nd what does he do in this story? he goes and forms the group that led him on this path of evil and pain. And its not even a reboot, hes just 20-30 years older. Hes there because if he wasn fans would ***** and piss and moan. Raphael's not making it to this game, so Amy loses her love, making all that progress ad story she had in the series worthless. and why does she no longer have this? She has Amnesia, the age old card that is a staple in most bad to average cookie cutter games that flood the market gamers love to rip on.

And yes, this may all just be speculation. She may not be amy. thats why i said potentially. If shes not amy, its all null in void and pointless whining. But this is just the chance that it is. just the chance that she is amy. thats what bothers me, and you have to admit, she does look similar to amy, and that cant be coincidence. THe rose design, the curl haired, the gothlita look, the pale skin, the double cape behind her that was a signature of raphael's two recent outfits.

So thats what you can sum it up as. The potential to fuck up a character, and fucking up established story. If shes not amy, then yeah, my argument is unfounded. But if she is, then Im just saying I guess.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
Loop Stricken said:
emeraldrafael said:
Loop Stricken said:
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But why does she have to be a blonde American? Who, let's be honest, seems to have the exact same body and face as Taki anyway.
Perhaps... CONSPIRACY!
but... she's <url=http://soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/Natsu>Japanese o_O?
Loop Stricken said:
Also that Petrolcheese fella? I loathe him. Instantly.
Who, sophitias son? cause i dont care for him either.
1) Yes, Japanese like anime characters.

2) Aye that's the fella. I don't know if it's the girly hair or what but I just... instant hatred.
all I know is her bio says she's japanese. America has nothing to do with this one (though since we're getting to that period in time, it would be nice to see a native american in the game. Give him a tomahawk and knife combo.

.... sorry, I made a native American fighter in soul Cal IV and like the idea of it.

and oka. I dont care for him much either, but i dont care for the game at all existing. it shouldnt, its simple as that really.
Well, a good deal of time in the "new world" was alluded to in Rock's backstory in previous games, so Rock is pretty much the "American" character in the series.

And as far as the new characters go, I'm getting a big "anime cute" vibe going on with the new character designs. It really seems to me that recent Japanese games just can't help but tack on "cute" designed characters. But obsession with "cute" is becoming ever increasingly dominant in Japanese pop culture (and you can thank the spending power of teenage girls for that), even among the "manliest" of men, so it's nothing surprising to find "cute" making its way even into a game like this. I'm really getting tired of it, TBH. I will still probably buy this game, but I'm just kinda P.O.ed that they gave my perennially best and favorite moveset to the prettyboy! Well, then they had better include a better character creation mode, at least to the quality of SCIII. I was severely disappointed when they gutted SCIV like they did in order to give it slightly shinier graphics. I HATE it when developers sacrifice gameplay options for visuals.

But anyway, to rant on the new characters some more, I actually like the idea of the whole cat-claw and magic thing, but why did they have to give it to the schoolgirl?!?!? Come on, Project Soul, stop giving the most interesting movesets to the least appealing characters!