Trailers: Star Wars: The Old Republic: Eternity Vault

[Deathfish15]

That is a shitty trailer. Just compare that to Trion's "Waves of Madness" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqa8_7JowcA&feature=player_embedded

Ya, HUGE difference. Trion's video looks epic and makes the enemy look deadly. Bioware's video for TOR looks lame and like they just oversized normally small droids for players to fight.

You're being a bit unfair here. They haven't released any other information on "Operations" yet, what we're seeing is only a small piece of the content.

Unfair? Really?!

It doesn't matter if it's just a small piece or whatever. This is content of their game. This video is a marketing tool to get the consumer to purchase the product. And no, it's not wanting me to do that.

From the video I perceived this much information:

-It's an Empire raid.

-It's for at least 20 people.

-Droids are a main focus of the fight going into it.

-It's at a prison.

-There's a boss at the very end that somehow only now is able to break his/her restraints (for some crazy reason he/she couldn't do it for the longest time that he/she was locked down there?).

-There's a lack of story presented other than "we found a secret prison vault"


There's much more that's in the video, but I'm not going to go into it. Overall, it makes me less likely to buy the product. That's what it boils down to.

 

[loc978]

I'm confused... Is this just a Dark Side dungeon raid or is this an introduction for the overarching enemy that the Dark Side and Light Side must work together to overcome?

It would appear to be a high-level Dark Side raid or dungeon. It's possible that they'll have the enemy wake up and make it co-op eventually, but it won't be co-op with the Sith raiding Republic space in an effort to prevent some ancient enemy from rising up.
Speaking in-universe, guided by recent novelizations... each side handles such things in their own way, and the Sith tend to learn of things earlier (due to ripping truths out of the Force rather than letting it guide them), but they rarely share information... even when they do share information, most Jedi simply see it as lies for the purpose of infiltration... which is usually the case. When the Sith are being genuine, no outsider can tell the difference. Much like "the boy who cried wolf".

 

[Nocta-Aeterna]

You know, I thought the Rakatan Empire build their prisons to be these boxes in which a person's ego/mind is stored, turning their bodies into vegetables. The naming does sound like it's theirs, though....

One of those boxes from Kotor II you mentioned should totally be a drop off the last boss imo. Could start a special high level quest or something.

There's an interesting quest in KOTOR 1where you have to transport one of them When you open it, you get sucked in and find yourself in company of a Rakatan criminal's mind who's been locked up for a few millenia. Then you compete with him who gets to keep your body.

 

[2xDouble]

It would appear to be a high-level Dark Side raid or dungeon. It's possible that they'll have the enemy wake up and make it co-op eventually, but it won't be co-op with the Sith raiding a Republic base in an effort to prevent some ancient enemy from rising up.
Speaking in-universe, guided by recent novelizations... each side handles such things in their own way, and the Sith tend to learn of things earlier (due to ripping truths out of the Force rather than letting it guide them), but they rarely share information... even when they do share information, most Jedi simply see it as lies for the purpose of infiltration... which is usually the case. When the Sith are being genuine, no outsider can tell the difference. Much like "the boy who cried wolf".

Exactly. It wouldn't make sense for the two sides to have a common enemy, let alone common goals. Yet the opening monologue implies the Sith can't handle the junk inside the prison by themselves... "if something isn't done".

 

[WonderWillard]

Why do people ***** about this game so much? Bioware + Star Wars = Awesome. That is a scientific formula, hard fact.

Seriously, the idea of dozens of sith running around taking down high-level enemies just sounds awesome, no matter what. Frak the naysayers.

 

[Fappy]

You know, I thought the Rakatan Empire build their prisons to be these boxes in which a person's ego/mind is stored, turning their bodies into vegetables. The naming does sound like it's theirs, though....

One of those boxes from Kotor II you mentioned should totally be a drop off the last boss imo. Could start a special high level quest or something.

There's an interesting quest in KOTOR 1where you have to transport one of them When you open it, you get sucked in and find yourself in company of a Rakatan criminal's mind who's been locked up for a few millenia. Then you compete with him who gets to keep your body.

Yeah I was referencing that... though, I thought it was from Kotor II for some reason XP

 

[Lawyer105]

I'm starting to get a particularly bad feeling about TOR... it was supposed to be different. It was supposed to be story focused. It was supposed to be based around playing multiple characters through differing storylines and starting a new toon for a new story each time you finished the game (with understandable limits) until they publish the next story expansion.

And now they're putting raids in??

You know, the thing you grind over and over and over at endgame trying for loot drops so that you're strong enough to farm the next raid over and over and over?

The thing that you do so often, if becomes a JOB, where you have to be online for the guild's weekly raid?

What happened to the vast storylines??

Not happy. Very disappointed.

 

[Nocta-Aeterna]

Yeah I was referencing that... though, I thought it was from Kotor II for some reason XP

We all make mistakes =P

I'm starting to get a particularly bad feeling about TOR... it was supposed to be different. It was supposed to be story focused. It was supposed to be based around playing multiple characters through differing storylines and starting a new toon for a new story each time you finished the game (with understandable limits) until they publish the next story expansion.

And now they're putting raids in??

You know, the thing you grind over and over and over at endgame trying for loot drops so that you're strong enough to farm the next raid over and over and over?

The thing that you do so often, if becomes a JOB, where you have to be online for the guild's weekly raid?

What happened to the vast storylines??

Not happy. Very disappointed.

Both Guild Wars 2 and The Secret World are claiming to have branching personal story lines, you could take a look there. Wether or not they can fulfill these claims and which of the two will do it the best remains to be seen though.

 

[Baresark]

What a disappointing trailer. It revealed nothing about what looks like a raid. The more of the ingame I see from TOR, the less excited I get about it. I'll probably end up reading reviews first and foremost, I know I have been burned by an MMO or two before.

 

[Baresark]

That is a shitty trailer. Just compare that to Trion's "Waves of Madness" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqa8_7JowcA&feature=player_embedded

Ya, HUGE difference. Trion's video looks epic and makes the enemy look deadly. Bioware's video for TOR looks lame and like they just oversized normally small droids for players to fight.

You're being a bit unfair here. They haven't released any other information on "Operations" yet, what we're seeing is only a small piece of the content.

Unfair? Really?!

It doesn't matter if it's just a small piece or whatever. This is content of their game. This video is a marketing tool to get the consumer to purchase the product. And no, it's not wanting me to do that.

From the video I perceived this much information:

-It's an Empire raid.

-It's for at least 20 people.

-Droids are a main focus of the fight going into it.

-It's at a prison.

-There's a boss at the very end that somehow only now is able to break his/her restraints (for some crazy reason he/she couldn't do it for the longest time that he/she was locked down there?).

-There's a lack of story presented other than "we found a secret prison vault"


There's much more that's in the video, but I'm not going to go into it. Overall, it makes me less likely to buy the product. That's what it boils down to.

Marketing at it's very worst, no doubt.

 

[GodsAndFishes]

Was that Simon Templeman (Kain/Loghain etc) I heard narrating the begining of that?

 

[Vrach]

I was hoping to get a reason.

Cute comic, shame neither the artist or you ever watched a gameplay video though

 

[Patton662]

So it's just WoW in Star Wars universe, with graphics that will get old really fast. Hopefully the gameplay will be story driven as promised, I might give it a shot then .

 

[syltman]

I've yet to see something original and good out of this game.

 

[KeyMaster45]

This reminds me of a raid from that other well known MMORPG.

Yeah, it's definitely got a back story reminiscent of Ulduar with a dash of the Arcatraz thrown in. Looks pretty cool though, gets me a bit more pumped up for the game.

 

[Lt. Vinciti]

This reminds me of a raid from that other well known MMORPG.

Ulduar?

Thats the jist I was getting

massive assault -> innersanctum -> Biomes

 

[A Curious Fellow]

So who is that ancient race that built all that stuff? I never heard of any precursors or something in Star Wars...

The Rakatans. Come one dude, haven't you played KOTOR?

 

[JediMB]

I'm starting to get a particularly bad feeling about TOR... it was supposed to be different. It was supposed to be story focused. It was supposed to be based around playing multiple characters through differing storylines and starting a new toon for a new story each time you finished the game (with understandable limits) until they publish the next story expansion.

And now they're putting raids in??

You know, the thing you grind over and over and over at endgame trying for loot drops so that you're strong enough to farm the next raid over and over and over?

The thing that you do so often, if becomes a JOB, where you have to be online for the guild's weekly raid?

What happened to the vast storylines??

Not happy. Very disappointed.

You're disappointed that your needs aren't the only ones served?

BioWare have been over this. They're going to have many different kinds of content, so that both players who want an epic story and people who just want to play a Star Wars MMO can be happy with the product they get.

You don't have to participate in the raids. I sure know I don't have any desire to. There'll be plenty of other things for us to do.