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EvilMaggot

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going the dark side all the way :D Sith Juggernaut !!! then bounty hunter prob! ^^ also preordered it :D cant wait for the early game access and maybe a place in the beta ^^
 

w-Jinksy

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*deep breath* STAR WARS! STAR WARS! STAR WARS! STAR WARS! STAR WARS! STAR WARS! STAR WARS! STAR WARS! STAR WARS! STAR WARS!

On a more serious note im gunna play them all though at the moment its a toss up between jedi sentinel or a sith assassin as my first class.
 

Wicky_42

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SyphonX said:
Wicky_42 said:
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I'm guessing I'm not the only one, what with this being the internet n all, but did anyone else see that as being boring and really dated? I mean, it only looked a little more flashy than KoToR 1 for heaven's sake; was that really the best they could do with the visuals, effects and animations? Is that really meant to be current-generation graphics? I swear Anarchy Online looked like that, lol.

Also, no matter how flashy the combat looked, you know it's just going to be 'click on guy', 'click on ability', 'wait for cooldown', 'click on ability again'. Kinda takes much of the fun out of it for me...
You're exaggerating just a bit, but yea it doesn't have the most amazing visuals, or physics, etc. EA has already stated they wish it to be more accessible, performance-wise to a large audience, taking the World of Warcraft approach where even your grandmother's solitaire PC can play it. That's also exaggerated though... clearly you need at least a somewhat dedicated gaming rig to play this.
Well, I'm assuming that what is shown is the game on max settings, and it can be scaled back to cater for "solitaire machines" - I just wonder why they would do that, given that the market has long demonstrated that it has space for only one big, accessible, low requirement, subscription-based MMORPG. I mean, if they'd really got the graphics to scale right up (think Fr Cry 1, that no machine could hope to run on max when it came out, but scaled back really well) then they could sell it on fantastic screenshots with surprisingly friendly system requirements. You can't really sell people on hours of recorded dialogue; a picture says a thousand words, and from what we've seen so far the dialogue clips are worse than the clichés trotted out in the prequel series, so I guess that advertising that angle might not work as well as they might have hoped.

I dunno, I just find everything I've seen so far to be really immature - not as in childish, but just really under-developed, shallow, and feeble. I mean, take the cinematic trailer: chock full of clichés and bad dialogue, hits about every Sith and Jedi trope in the book, and even the bad-guy ships look just like the empire's ships do centuries later - is there an eternal shipyard with a fetish for wedges out there, or is Lucas so fucking focused on brands and recognition that the badguys aren't allowed to change their ship designs EVER? Also, does every Jedi and their mum need a double-bladed light-saber? Those things were supposed to be rare and awesome, not something every wanna-be padawan can swing around.

Arg, I've said it before and I'll likely say it again: I want a Star Wars reboot, not an endless rolling-on of tired material in a nonsensical and inconsistent universe. The parts that made Star Wars so amazing when it started have wilted with age and are ripe to be redone, whilst the iconic parts that persist even today - lightsabers, starfighter design, Coruscant, Death Star etc - would thrive in a rejuvenated setting. I really liked the 'greying' of the force that was explored in one of the novels, and a reboot could use that, becoming less binary and more morally and emotionally complex. Which is something Star Wars could really do with.
 

synobal

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Welcome to the starwars universe the same freaking story that's been going for for ages, choose between two sides and battle it out just don't be surprised it 90% of everyone seems to be a Jedi.

I'm sorry but starwars galaxies kinda ruined any hope of a starwars MMO for me, after seeing how hard that failed after being so great I don't feel like playing WoW with lightsabers. Animations look bad, graphics dated and the aesthetic design is cartoony and boring. I give this MMO 2 or 3 years, tops with an amazingly large launch base and a terribly buggy crash ridden server Queueing 5 gig patch laden launch.

oh and don't forget every subscriber gets to deal with EA support and their EA Download manager reskinned to Origin, have fun! :)
 

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I'm glad to see some Imperial Agents. They've got it all - sniping, stealth, barriers, etc. There's no way I'm fighting for the republic on my first roll.
 

Dissolve

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Wicky_42 said:
I want a Star Wars reboot, not an endless rolling-on of tired material in a nonsensical and inconsistent universe.
Akalabeth said:
I'm so tired of Star Wars.
What the heck is this? Empire? Old Republic? Is there an empire a thousand years ago? Whatever . . .
You're both missing the part where some of the best writers in science fiction gaming are behind this game. KOTOR was probably one of my favorite RPGs to date. The world felt vast in a way that not even Mass Effect could touch on. All I can say is that I believe that Drew Karpyshyn has an excellent handle on Star Wars lore, and while I think Mass Effect is great, I believe he excelled at telling stories within the Star Wars universe. What he writes is something beyond what George Lucas originally envisioned, and it's excellent.

OT: Not to mention, (in my opinion) gaming strives with optimism, and not this constant pessimism so common among gamers. Sure, it seems like Bioware has set an pretty high bar for TOR, but even if they don't live up to every promise, it can still be an amazing game. I felt the same back when Fable was released, and then Mirror's Edge fell for the same reason. When you search for flaws, you won't just be disappointed, you're not advancing the medium. Conversely, if you look for the best parts in a game, you can find gems in the rough. Those gems bring us new play-styles, experiences, and occasionally, new genres. If that's not what gaming's all about, I don't know what is.
 
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Slightly off topic I know, but what was the music playing over the big finale battle scenes? I could swear I've heard it before, I think its something by Two Steps from Hell...
 

coakroach

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The frame rate...the animation.....the voice acting....
How are people excited by this?
 

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Dissolve said:
Not to mention, (in my opinion) gaming strives with optimism, and not this constant pessimism so common among gamers.
I agree. There's so much to look forward to about the game, so much to be impressed with, yet people are focused on a few negligible concerns. I'm not saying that people should pull their punches when it comes to critique, but I think the bile that accompanies some of the comments betrays a deeper agenda. Not being impressed by something is very neutral from an emotional standpoint, but I see a lot of outright contempt. Too many gamers just have an axe to grind.
 

sagejosh

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the imperial agent looks like the only healing class for the empire, the sith warrior is a tank/ melee dps, the inquisitor is a melee/ranged dps, the bounty hunter is a tank/ ranged dps so that leaves the agent to do all the supporting. it seems like the agent is going to be the staple in all instances that is if you even need a support.