Transgender

[Chrono212]

It's a bit short sighted to put your personal qualms of what is 'normal' above other people's thoughts and feelings towards themselves.

And it's all well and good that people of the LGBT community you personally know can empathise with your point of view but you shouldn't use that as a 'get-out-of-jail-free' card when talking to other people who have view points on the subject.

 

[Bridgeru]

I don't mind them as people, but were i to find out a girl i was into was one after the initial dates then i would be offended, betrayed and call it off.

Aside from it being weird, on some level i always think of the long term, and biological kids are a deal.

Perhaps you're already decided fully on this viewpoint, which is your own and I fully understand what you mean, and your intentions are admirable. But I've been dumped for my physical body before, a few times infact. It isn't easy on the person.

What I mean to say is, if you find a nice girl, please don't let the mere fact that a) despite her now being a girl she didn't start life as one (well, post-foetus I mean), and b) the fact that she cannot have children be the sole reason to end a relationship.

And this thread is starting to tire me tonight (mainly because the OP didn't return and it's just people focusing on the same issue, but I digress), if anyone for some reason has questions about transsexualism (like,those who think they might be trans) feel free to message me because I've been/going through it. Hope it helped anyone.

 

[Zaik]

I had my own issues with this that are only loosely related.

When I was about 19 and still hadn't grown out of that angsty teen phase, I dated a 28 year old just coming out of a marriage for about 6ish months. "She" was waaaayyyy out of my league in pretty much every way(to the point of being outright suspicious, but I played the gullible fool masterfully), so of course eventually the actual truth came out that this very attractive and interesting woman actually had a penis that was still in the process of being edited.

What's an angsty teen, yet to turn into a competent adult, supposed to do in that situation? The obvious thing, get pissed as hell and paint everyone in that group with the same color paint. For quite a while I was almost violently opposed to the entire thing.

Well, that's been an unspecified-but-significant number of years ago, and I'm pretty much over it now. Still, I do take issue with calling men women just because they think they are. I'm willing to ease it up to at least requiring a man to appear female before calling him "her", but as far as relationships go that dirty laundry needs to be aired out in advance, not in a bedroom decorated with recently worn clothing. Just allowing people to freely assign themselves their gender tends to cause problems that shouldn't ever be happening.

Edit: My entire rant there seems to only target men changing to women. I don't really like calling women men when they are obviously still women, but I've never really met a convincing woman -> man switch(Even saw one with facial hair, it just looked like a chubby chick with an early puberty mustache). Also it can't ever affect me, it makes it a bit difficult to get all up in arms about it.

 

[shitoutonme]

Firstly, I'm transgendered myself. I speak from experience, yet only for myself, not the trasngendered community at large. No it is not "Natural". A blind man walking with a cane is not "natural", a person with a pacemaker is not natural (looking at you Ames in MGS2!!!). It is a medical condition, and as such, is treated medically. It is classified as both a mental and physical condition.

Secondly, what's the point in something being considered "natural"? In this world, nothing we do is natural. Cars aren't "natural"

Thirdly: It DOES happen in the animal kingdom, albeit for different reasons. Oysters have been known to change their sex, as well as frogs in accordance to demands (I mean, we all remember the scene in Jurrasic Park, but I digress).

Fourthly: Why did this thread have to exist? What did OP hope to gain? I mean, he's saying he's being forced to accept things......

OP, this is the only advice I'm going to give you; I am transgendered. It is my life. You may not like it, and do not have to like it. You do not even have to be silent about your dislike. Just ask yourself, do you get stones thrown at you, insultful comments, even death threats just by walking down the street.
This is a real issue for some people, and if it doesn't affect you, move along.

Excuse me, but I would like to know more about what a surgery to change one's gender entails before speaking my mind. Is it purely cosmetic, as I've been informed in the past, or do you come out physiologically and anatomically a woman, as if you were born as one? If the latter is true, I have nothing to say. If the former is true, I feel inclined to say a few words concerning trangendered people and their romantic relationships.

If anyone knows the answer to this, thanks. Google and I are at odds for the moment, so it's not my friend today.