Treyarch got a little lazy with Blops 2's multiplayer.

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Kopikatsu

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So, for weapon mastery, you have to gain both the Marksman and Gold Camo Calling Cards for the weapon you want mastery for. There's also two medals for getting Mastery in every primary weapon and every secondary weapon.

Now for the lazy part: They just copy/pasted the Marksman and Camo Calling Cards onto all weapons. This includes the Assault Shield. I have a Marksman CC for a Shield. Anyway, that's not the important part:

One of the secondary weapons is an anti-air rocket launcher called the FHJ-18 AA. It also has a Marksman and Camo Calling Card that is required for Mastery, which is required for the 'Mastery with all secondary weapons' medal. Here's the thing: Weapon XP is granted by kills and assists on players. The FHJ-18 AA cannot kill players. Vehicle kills don't give any weapon XP. It's not possible to level up the FHJ-18 AA, so it's not possible to get the Marksman CC, so you can't get mastery, so you can't get the medal for mastering all secondary weapons.

So, two questions:

1. Am I right in calling out Treyarch for this? (A lot of work went into the rest of the multiplayer, like the amazing map design)

2. Are there any other games with something like this in it, or is Blops 2 the only one?
 

White Lightning

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Must..not...make...silly joke...

No screw that, to be honest they've been lazy with the Multiplayer since what? MW 2? "Treyarch didn't make that one dumbass" Then the fact the WaW and Black Ops have the same Multiplayer as it is even worse "Shup up newb" YOU SHUT UP!
So to answer your first question, yes, you are right to call them out on this.

Other games with broken challenge systems? Yeah probably but I'm too lazy to look.
 

TheSteeleStrap

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I wouldn't call that detail "lazy", so much as "someone should have caught that", but it should be called out. And Blops 2 is the only one I know of with that particular slip.
 

Sanat

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Rehashes are always going to have lazy design features, and glitchy grinding. You're right to call them out, they've made an achievement techincally impossible which shouldn't be a thing. And what WL said; I'm too lazy.
 

TakeshiLive

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Haven't tried the BO2 multiplayer yet but undoubtedly there will be something overpowered and something underpowered. It has always been this way and will continue to be. The severity of the balance issue is something more akin to tweaking. If Treyarch has any sense of responsibility, they should respond to criticisms and complaints from the community.

I hope there will never be a repeat of MW2's 'nade launcher + One man army.
 

Zhukov

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So... if I'm reading this right, the end result is that you can't get two medals?

The horror. The horror.