Trick Or Treating In AUS
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Why in the fuck are you celebrating the British gunpowder plot but not halloween because "its too american"?tkioz said:
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It's not just American. I know the Japanese enjoy it as well. But it makes sense that Austrailia doesn't celebrate it.
Halloween is based off the pagan holiday Samhein. Samhein celebrates harvest and the coming of the dark half of the year. It was some times called "The Blood Harvest" because this was when the herds were culled to reduce the burden of feeding too many animals, as well as to provide dried meat for the winter.
The costumes come from the idea that on Samhein, the veil between our world and the spirit world is at its thinnest. While many good spirits come through (see All Saint's Day and Day of the Dead), many bad ones do as well. Frightening costumes were used to frighten off the bad spirits. (This varies slightly from place to place. Scottish traditions had young men dressing as deceased family and friends.)
The various associations with apples (bobbing, candied apples) come from the apple harvest this time of year.
Trick or Treating seems to have originated in Europe. During the age of the Renaissance, poor people would go door to door on All Saint's Day (aka Hallowmas) and beg for food. The more modern concept of Trick or Treating seems to have originated in Scotland and Ireland.
Given the predominance of Halloween in the British Isles, it's unsurprising that Australia got a bit of it too. Add in how much fun TV and Movies make it seem, it makes sense.
Halloween is based off the pagan holiday Samhein. Samhein celebrates harvest and the coming of the dark half of the year. It was some times called "The Blood Harvest" because this was when the herds were culled to reduce the burden of feeding too many animals, as well as to provide dried meat for the winter.
The costumes come from the idea that on Samhein, the veil between our world and the spirit world is at its thinnest. While many good spirits come through (see All Saint's Day and Day of the Dead), many bad ones do as well. Frightening costumes were used to frighten off the bad spirits. (This varies slightly from place to place. Scottish traditions had young men dressing as deceased family and friends.)
The various associations with apples (bobbing, candied apples) come from the apple harvest this time of year.
Trick or Treating seems to have originated in Europe. During the age of the Renaissance, poor people would go door to door on All Saint's Day (aka Hallowmas) and beg for food. The more modern concept of Trick or Treating seems to have originated in Scotland and Ireland.
Given the predominance of Halloween in the British Isles, it's unsurprising that Australia got a bit of it too. Add in how much fun TV and Movies make it seem, it makes sense.
Alot of the problem I have with halloween is that until recently, nobody celebrated it around where I live. Its not something that really fits with Australian culture and to have it basically stuffed down our throats by major chain stores and other greedy commercial interests really pisses me off.
Not only in Australia, they start this sh&% in germany too.
Gladly, i live outside of town, so nobody comes to this place.
But in town, they really start going from door to door for candy.
Perhaps it's time to copy not only livestyle from the US, but also the bad things.
When i remember right, there was this urban myth about a razor in a apple ?
Gladly, i live outside of town, so nobody comes to this place.
But in town, they really start going from door to door for candy.
Perhaps it's time to copy not only livestyle from the US, but also the bad things.
When i remember right, there was this urban myth about a razor in a apple ?
Hallows Eve is a pagan thing I thought, but the Americans did Commercialize it.
We celebrate it here in Britain also. But I guess as American media spreads across the world it is bound to happen.
We celebrate it here in Britain also. But I guess as American media spreads across the world it is bound to happen.
Where I live they don't burn the bastard any more! That annoys me >.>Pipotchi said:Bonfire Night is coming up, thats a proper holiday!. If you go to Lewes in England its like a scene out of The Wicker Man.
Anything that involves constructing an effigy and burning it is alright with me
because Australia wasn't colonised by the US... although it's hard to tell sometimes these days.A Pious Cultist said:
I disagree. I find cops pretty accommodating and helpful. I've never had a problem with coppers even when being arrested.Zekksta said:
It could be because I'm polite to them, treat them like real people with a job to do which is made bloody hard by the general populace.
I also grew up in a small town where I knew most of the cops.
It's free candy, they'd make up a holiday so they could get that in Australia. Using an already existing American one is just more convenient.
+1 to halloween parties, for sure.
but kids running up and knocking on my door, no thanks you little screaming shits
lol
but kids running up and knocking on my door, no thanks you little screaming shits
ignorance is bliss heythePyro_13 said:
lol
Because Halloween is fucking awesome, I mean if there's one Holiday I think everyone should pick up from the Americans. It's this.Trezu said:
Yeah, that's where the trick part comes in, now let's just see how dedicated Aussie kids are to celebrating....>=)Redlin5 said: