Trolling is not an excuse

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Gentleman_Reptile

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Heres something I've been musing on recently. Why do people seem to substitute the concept of trolling to cover up inexcusable behavior?

I enjoy the odd troll now and then as much as anyone else, but that doesn't mean it should be used a convenient smokescreen for genuine asshats. People who have behaved like morons seem to be able to get away with their stupidity by people assuming they are "trolling", when they are really just idiots.

My main point of frustration for this rises when people say that The Westboro Baptist Church "are the worlds most successful trolls". What the fuck is that supposed to mean? That one day they are going to suddenly stop and go "Fooled you! Oh man you should have seen the look on your face....." Is that supposed to be their endgame? Their punchline? Nobody is going to be that despicable (or put themselves in that much danger) for the purpose of a bad joke. Trolls create lies to trick people, and that horrible group of cretins are not lying when they say they believe all that rubbish.

I've seen people defend the horrid musical abortion "Friday" on the basis that Rebecca Black is "just trolling". I heard the same about Bieber, Charlie Sheen, and even about Micheal Jackson back when he dangled an infant out a window like a fat pink dog treat.

Maybe theres an interpretation of Trolling I'm not aware of. One that dictates a person can be inadvertently doing it without even realizing, but I'd like to think I've been on the internet long enough to know better.

Can anyone lend their brainwaves on this?
 

Levi93

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Simple: people+anonymity(is this a word?) = dick heads.

I've seen a little picture with this somewhere, not sure where though.
 

Miles000

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Levi93 said:
Simple: people+anonymity(is this a word?) = dick heads.

I've seen a little picture with this somewhere, not sure where though.
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OT: It's just how the internet works.
 

Sarge034

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First off, welcome to the internet. Second and third, see below.
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BlindTom

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You can troll accidentally. Being trolled is failing to deal with inexcusable behaviour in a grown up manner. If you are raging rather then calmly dealing with or ignoring somebodies bullshit then they have trolled you.
 

Nerf Ninja

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A troll IS a dickhead there is no other way around it.

If I assumed someone was being a troll it's because I'm assuming they're a prick.
 

Tomo Stryker

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Nope, those people are actual idiots who are not trolling but actually believe what they say. Its mind blowing, but true. West Buro is inexcusable, there behavior disgraces their choice of religion and are total and complete facking morons.
 

Gigano

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Probably just a way of saying that you can't take whatever they sprout or do seriously, because it's too fucked up.

WBC might well believe all the religious crap they say, but there's no reason to take them any more serious than some random troll. Not like they're worth it.
 

Legion

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People like making excuses for behaviour. The same way when you get serial killers and rapists people prefer to simply say "They are monsters" and sweep it all under the rug rather than looking at why they are the way that they are.

I should point out plain and clearly that I am not justifying their behaviour, I am merely pointing out that people never seem to question why it is, they just seem to think "They are bad, that's just how they are."
 

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The "he's a nice guy IRL" argument? I don't see why someone who goes out of their way to piss everyone off by spouting garbage for the lulz should be better viewed than someone who pisses everyone off by spouting garbage because they have issues with reality.
 

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I took it all seriously until you mentioned Justin Bieber and Rebecca Black, seriously they're no worse than any other pop crap and their fame only comes from dumbasses who never shut up about how bad they are. I do agree that trolling has now become an excuse for idiocy, and it's bloody annoying.
 

The .50 Caliber Cow

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Trolling, whether it is legitimate or just a cover for someone's real racist/sexist/unbelievable beliefs is just plain annoying anyway so the two get lumped together.

It's the internet and people think they can unleash the beast here.
 

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Miles000 said:
Levi93 said:
Simple: people+anonymity(is this a word?) = dick heads.

I've seen a little picture with this somewhere, not sure where though.
This what your looking for?
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q405/AnonEmoose/1298160637577.jpg
OT: It's just how the internet works.
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you good sir!
 

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It's funny, I'm actually the opposite. In my day to day life, my uber dry sense of humor is a way to constantly drive the people around me nuts. Online, since you can't read my face, I tend to be more respectful and make with the corny jokes.

Hmm, I should probably rethink this behavior...
 

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This is trolling done right:

Unfortunately the majority of the internet uses it as a defence to cover up inherent logical fallacies or ill educated opinions in their posts.

Recognizing the discrepancy between the two is part of being on the internet.

Personally I don't troll. My style of humour off the internet is very self-deprecating and wry played straight so if you see me saying something that could be considered insulting re-read my post with a winking tongue sticking out smily face/smiling eyebrow raised tone.
 

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A troll is someone who enjoys screwing with other people. Isn't that exactly what the WBC is? Their whole act is to get people upset so when someone finally rages and punches one in the face they can act like they were the victims.

Either way, Rebecca Black just performed a really bad song. She was never trolling. In fact, she never expected it to get so popular. The word "troll" has been ruined and people just throw it around everywhere. Besides, the trolls these days aren't very good at it anymore. All they do is spam memorial pages for kids that died.
 

Boris Goodenough

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Trolling is just knowingly provoking people with the percieved truth or false facts, two examples:

Percieved truth: WBC says: "God hates fags".
False facts: Women don't enjoy sex.
 

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Gentleman_Reptile said:
I've seen people defend the horrid musical abortion "Friday" on the basis that Rebecca Black is "just trolling". I heard the same about Bieber, Charlie Sheen..
Charlie Sheen pretty much did turn around with a great big 'Gotha fools!' grin and admit he was trolling for media attention. And got it he did... he's currently winning television if you'll sample how many news channels he's appeared on.