Pearl Harbor was an unnecessary assault and slaughter of thousands of American sailors and a few dozen civilians that were caught off guard by the Imperialist Japanese Navy. Pearl Harbor did in fact need payback, but of course the nukes were not the payback, there was a flight of American bombers that flew straight out of a carrier into Japan and bombed a city in retaliation. The Bombers didn't do much damage, and most didn't return home, but it was the payback and shook Japan. The Atomic Bombs were used to shorten the war and "save millions of lives." If this would ever have been a true statement, we'll never know, but it's our past and we must accept it and learn from it, and hope that it never happens again.EllEzDee said:Pearl Harbour needed payback? Pearl Harbour was just a military manoeuvre, it didn't need payback. The nukes were just an overkill attempt at forcing them into surrender.Merkavar said:wouldnt the 2 nukes droped on japan been enough payback for pearl harbour?
Never mind, ignore last post.Diamondback One said:Pearl Harbor was an unnecessary assault and slaughter of thousands of American sailors and a few dozen civilians that were caught off guard by the Imperialist Japanese Navy. Pearl Harbor did in fact need payback, but of course the nukes were not the payback, there was a flight of American bombers that flew straight out of a carrier into Japan and bombed a city in retaliation. The Bombers didn't do much damage, and most didn't return home, but it was the payback and shook Japan. The Atomic Bombs were used to shorten the war and "save millions of lives." If this would ever have been a true statement, we'll never know, but it's our past and we must accept it and learn from it, and hope that it never happens again.EllEzDee said:Pearl Harbour needed payback? Pearl Harbour was just a military manoeuvre, it didn't need payback. The nukes were just an overkill attempt at forcing them into surrender.Merkavar said:wouldnt the 2 nukes droped on japan been enough payback for pearl harbour?
Anyways, as for this thread: People either judging all of America for people on FaceBook, I mean common guys. They're obviously trolls, and people seem to be feeding the trolls...
... Good job.
I hate to sound like a know it all prick, but technically, Russian already took over Berlin and were already fighting the Japanesse(I'm pretty sure they were already fighting or were drawing up plans to do so)before the bombs were dropped, the American government dropped the bombs because they were afraid of the American losses if there was to be a mainland invasion of Japan(because face it, the Japaneses were willing to suicide-bum rush US positions on random Pacific islands, imagine what a full scale invasion of their homeland would have been). So they thought the bombs would have made Japan surrender.Bugerion said:I think war would not continue because Russians fu*ked Hitler up and pushed his forces back to Berlin I think Japan would have surrendered after Berlin fell.
We already got out payback, and it was in the form of two of the largest, most destructive weapons ever used in human history. So yeah, I'd say we got our revenge half a century ago. Plus we are on fairly good terms now and their our allies so I'm gonna go with no we really have no reason to think that this is, 'payback'.Jonabob87 said:If this has already been brought up, do forgive but this has been brought to my attention:
*Link removed* (by the OP) People are sending messages to Facebook accounts apparently and that's also out of line.
Apparently there is a fair amount of Americans claiming that the Tsunami currently ravaging Japan can be seen as payback for an attack in WW2.
"getting a little more payback for peal harbour. they thought we forgot about that BS, didn't they?"
"Remember pearl harbour? Go tsunami go!"
Only two brief examples of a torrent of idiotic comments that seriously make one wonder where people get this crap from.
What are your thoughts, Escapists?
They weren't two innocent civilian towns. Both cities were industrial cities. Nagasaki was a large sea port that was important to the war. There were military bases in both cities and had been untouched by the war. They picked those cities to gauge the power of the bombs.aegix drakan said:........Ok, that's just disgusting.
Also didn't the US already get their payback when they NUKED TWO INNOCENT CIVILIAN TOWNS?!
...Think the world forgot about THAT?
Mostly agree with you here, but just wanna slip in that if you say the nukes were just strategy in a war (to save lives yes, but just a strategy none the less), then surely pearl harbor was also? So there is no need for "payback" as there is nothing to "payback"?Razada said:You have probably been quoted to death for saying peoples thoughts upon this thread. I would find out but I do not want to read through 10 pages of people trolling ignorant people they do not know.Rationalization said:I have yet to see a thread more dedicated to trolling. I commend you sir. I really should make threads like these, take the craziest things that happen in a country and represent it as a whole, or take commenters on the internet and represent a country as a whole.
That said...
Stop talking about the nukes like they were payback. Go read some history, I know it sounds contraversial but the nukes saved lives overall (Go do some research into the predicted casualty figures if the states had invaded japan + the measures the japanese government was taking in preparation for that eventuallity. Once you know at least half as much as I do, troll away) I know it was horrible but on some levels it was jutified. (I dont hate the Japanese. And I am British, just throwin that out there, not some gun-toting american patriot).
People on the internet say stupid things, this troll thread wont do anything to help those in Japan. My thoughts are with the Japanese, my prayers as well (For whatever that is worth). The only thing that annoys me about this disaster is the total lack of coverage on the BBC of Libya now they have footage of a nuclear power plant exploding (A bit).
And to everyone who has innevitably trolled America during this thread, remember this. There are just as many stupid, ignorant racist god-fearing assholes in the country you live in as in the states (Proportionally, anyway). Every nation has morons who say stupid things. Or people who say things just to get a stir out of the people on the net.