#TweetLikeNotYourShield Is pretty disgusting

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Emcee_N said:
So, basically, the ad hominem US vs. THEM noise is still removing any semblance of sensible debate about the very real problems brought up by either side, gotcha.
Seems to be the name of the game lately.

The guy who started this hashtag is not a pleasant person either.
 

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Glen Compton said:
I believe in this case "your" is referring exclusively to the media.
All the same, a very funny observation!
Thorn14 said:
I think it was just an outcry from minorities who simply wanted to state. "You don't represent me."
Yeah I know but it's just a little weird where it went. I mean when I first heard about it a gamergater was literally making a thread about how it was a horrible blow to the anti-gamergate side, and how it had shown that the minorities really support them. It was just ridiculous, because it was instantly co-opted to be something it was not meant to be, like out of the frying pan into another frying pan.
 

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Notshauna said:
Glen Compton said:
I believe in this case "your" is referring exclusively to the media.
All the same, a very funny observation!
Thorn14 said:
I think it was just an outcry from minorities who simply wanted to state. "You don't represent me."
Yeah I know but it's just a little weird where it went. I mean when I first heard about it a gamergater was literally making a thread about how it was a horrible blow to the anti-gamergate side, and how it had shown that the minorities really support them. It was just ridiculous, because it was instantly co-opted to be something it was not meant to be, like out of the frying pan into another frying pan.
To be fair the tweet is NotYOURShield, not NotAShield ;)
 

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Notshauna said:
Glen Compton said:
I believe in this case "your" is referring exclusively to the media.
All the same, a very funny observation!
Thorn14 said:
I think it was just an outcry from minorities who simply wanted to state. "You don't represent me."
Yeah I know but it's just a little weird where it went. I mean when I first heard about it a gamergater was literally making a thread about how it was a horrible blow to the anti-gamergate side, and how it had shown that the minorities really support them. It was just ridiculous, because it was instantly co-opted to be something it was not meant to be, like out of the frying pan into another frying pan.
No, I agree that the way you put this, it is somewhat ironic.
 

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It is, but how else do you prove your movement is not nothing but a bunch of white cis males?
 

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Thorn14 said:
It is, but how else do you prove your movement is not nothing but a bunch of white cis males?
Have not White Cis Males speak. And they did. A hash tag, no matter what it says is not some sort of magic criticism-free field.

I have no idea what this Tweetlikenotyourshield hashtag is even supposed to mean, But I guess I don't care. Twitter is just awful.

I feel the "discussion" is never going to move anywhere if we can't move off twitter.
 

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All I see are people complaining about the tag. Maybe you could add an explanation to your post explaining what the controversy is?

#Berserkrocks
 

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http://topsy.com/analytics?q1=%23tweetlikenotyourshield&via=Topsy

I really do think that this tag, as well as #Stopwhatever, is/was being boosted, a lot, by GamerGate folks re/tweeting it/tweeting about it.

Which is what's happening here. *shrug* Not a big deal.
 

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The tweets I'm seeing are mostly from GG calling it racist and sexist. None of the tweets that use it though come across as that, that I can see. I'm not surprised that GG hasn't figured out the difference between racist criticism and criticism of ideas though.

For instance, these all follow the vein as most of the others I've found.
https://twitter.com/jskylerinc/status/523573908968972288
https://twitter.com/jskylerinc/status/523564440885526528
https://twitter.com/neongrey33/status/523343365635850240
https://twitter.com/BloodyBHoney/status/523568289692524544

But on the plus side, it did lead to my discovery of #TweetLikeAGamerGater, and that has been endlessly hilarious to me.

Such as:
https://twitter.com/thesearesongs/status/523575475416104961
https://twitter.com/NielJacoby/status/523569790913228802
https://twitter.com/Staticchicken/status/523556715955232768
https://twitter.com/Shake_Well/status/523515548169408512
https://twitter.com/leftytgirl/status/523506913367973888
https://twitter.com/S0phieH/status/523105596632236032
https://twitter.com/drmeat64/status/523106309315387392
https://twitter.com/the_author_/status/523110151843106817
https://twitter.com/AnnieKNK/status/523101680649666560
https://twitter.com/Mornacale/status/523100647189516288
https://twitter.com/ConstantFail/status/523098580404686848
https://twitter.com/XMD5a8000/status/523084895447298048

I could go for days with these.
I want to sincerely thank you for those links. That's fantastic.
 

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http://gamergateharassment.tumblr.com/

In general a lot of Anti-GG posts on twitter and tumblr are proving to be really quite vile.
 

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Going to twitter to find intelligence is like going to KFC for a healthy meal.
You have no right to be complaining about seeing this shit when you are actively seeking it out. Why does it matter if someone says something sexist/racist etc? They are entitled to their opinion and as long as keep it within boundaries of the law they can say it all they want. That's not to say they are in the right or anything, but nothing they do is anywhere near as annoying or useless as the hundreds of threads popping up here complaining about them.
They don't care you think about them, I don't care what you think about them and would seriously appreciate it if I could find a thread on the recent posts thing not in some way related to feminism.
Its a bloody gaming forum. Not a women's rights convention.

As for this little statement "I am completely astonished at how many people lack the self awareness to say the things that are being said on there.".
I am seriously astonished at how many people lack the ability to comprehend that you people are causing this by endlessly reacting to and talking about it.
Ignore them. Stop shitting up the forum, or at least contain this to a single megathread which I'm sure at least 5 have been made. Nobody needs to know your opinion on the matter that much that it requires an entirely new thread.
I don't think this will happen though judging of the sort of people who make a million of these threads, so if somebody could at least tell me there is a way to filter threads with the words Gamersgate, feminism, bigot and harassment I'd be forever in your debt.
 

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Trippy Turtle said:
I don't think this will happen though judging of the sort of people who make a million of these threads, so if somebody could at least tell me there is a way to filter threads with the words Gamersgate, feminism, bigot and harassment I'd be forever in your debt.
You will need to use a mental filter for that unfortunately, or maybe write a grease money script.

Sorry you felt obligated to read this and comment on it since it bothered you so much, but I appreciate your input all the same. Thanks.
 

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Yeah, I see mostly people complaining about it, a few hilarious ones calling out the hypocrisy of how #notyourshield is being used as a shield and how being a woman automatically makes you a perfect authority on all feminist topics even if you clearly have no knowledge of feminism. Then a few assuming that all #notyourshield posters are sockpuppets, which is largely unjustifiable and actually is pretty racist. Also, I found a post made by the guy who came up with #notyourshield. Seems like a bit of a douchebag. How totally unsurprising.

irishda said:
The tweets I'm seeing are mostly from GG calling it racist and sexist. None of the tweets that use it though come across as that, that I can see. I'm not surprised that GG hasn't figured out the difference between racist criticism and criticism of ideas though.

For instance, these all follow the vein as most of the others I've found.
https://twitter.com/jskylerinc/status/523573908968972288
https://twitter.com/jskylerinc/status/523564440885526528
https://twitter.com/neongrey33/status/523343365635850240
https://twitter.com/BloodyBHoney/status/523568289692524544

But on the plus side, it did lead to my discovery of #TweetLikeAGamerGater, and that has been endlessly hilarious to me.

Such as:
https://twitter.com/thesearesongs/status/523575475416104961
https://twitter.com/NielJacoby/status/523569790913228802
https://twitter.com/Staticchicken/status/523556715955232768
https://twitter.com/Shake_Well/status/523515548169408512
https://twitter.com/leftytgirl/status/523506913367973888
https://twitter.com/S0phieH/status/523105596632236032
https://twitter.com/drmeat64/status/523106309315387392
https://twitter.com/the_author_/status/523110151843106817
https://twitter.com/AnnieKNK/status/523101680649666560
https://twitter.com/Mornacale/status/523100647189516288
https://twitter.com/ConstantFail/status/523098580404686848
https://twitter.com/XMD5a8000/status/523084895447298048

I could go for days with these.
These entertain me. Especially this one. I must continue reading these.
please stop acting like i'm a misogynist when my literally fake gamer girl i drew shares my thoughts
 

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These entertain me. Especially this one. I must continue reading these.
please stop acting like i'm a misogynist when my literally fake gamer girl i drew shares my thoughts
I cannot stop laughing at this one.

The New Yorker? The Guardian? Pfft. Obviously bias shill sites. TheRalphRetort? Now THERE'S a respectable publication.
And even more are rolling in!
SophiaRune
People who block me to avoid hearing me whine are literally worse than the Nazi soldiers who controlled the gulags. #tweetlikeagamergater
AmIRightFolks
Take games seriously! But don't subject them to the sociocultural criticism that accompanies every other art form! #tweetlikeagamergater
OneAngryMonk
We are gamergate! But when you contact advertisers don't tell them you're with gamergate. They might read the news. #tweetlikeagamergater
 

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Yeah, #Tweetlikenotyourshield gets a bit problematic, what with the obvious racial/gendered tension. I mean, some are pure gold but it requires a very thick skin.

#TweetlikeAGamaerGater makes it hard for me to breath if I read it too long. Genius.

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irishda said:
Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm dying.

I love how I've seen that I've literally seen one of those floating around here. "The gaming industry isn't inclusive to women? Look at these pictures of 20 female game developers you've never heard of!" Thanks, I was aware that there were at least 20 women in the game industry before that
 

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totheendofsin said:
While most people seem to be taking the piss out of the tag the people who are using it unironically are ridiculous. It's like they can't comprehend that women and minorities can have a different opinion than them
Considering that I see women and minorities using it unironically, and it was created by an Asian guy, I don't get your comment. As a minority, I don't need a unanimous decision in the minority international parliament to defend what I see as discrimination.
 

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totheendofsin said:
While most people seem to be taking the piss out of the tag the people who are using it unironically are ridiculous. It's like they can't comprehend that women and minorities can have a different opinion than them
Essentially, that's what it is.


A lot of these people regard women, racial minorities, homosexuals and a bunch of other things as people they have to defend.

Frankly, it's a bit offensive as it implies these groups aren't capable of defending themselves.

As such they see these groups having different opinions as a betrayal.

I myself have been called "Confused" and a "Traitor" for being both gay and supportive of some of the things GG is working for.
 

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ITT: No actual discussion was had, because both sides are to busy slinging mud. SO basically the exact same thing as every other GG thread. #tweetlikeagamergator is a bunch of smug twats calling other people stupid via strawmanning so absurdly strong I think i'm having hay allergies. #TweetLikeNotYourShield Is just the normal vile hate that the internet (and some times people in real life sadly) throws at "minority traitors" and its as disgusting as ever.

Its funny that the one big thing thing that makes lean more toward GG than staying 100% neutral is that the other side is so smug, venomous, and just generally easier to hate. Also, you know, not calling saying I'm somehow worse than actual real life fanatical murders helps gain my sympathy a bit.
 

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The Lunatic said:
I myself have been called "Confused" and a "Traitor" for being both gay and supportive of some of the things GG is working for.
You traitor! How dare you not fall in line with the Twitter Justice ideology! You're clearly confused or so woefully ill-informed that you can't see past the indoctrination of your oppressors!

But don't fear. I'm a (not entirely)straight, white(as-a-sheet) male and I'm here to explain why you're wrong and to defend you from the mean ol' bullies known as "Gamers"[footnote]Ew! Those gross misogynerds.[/footnote].

major_chaos said:
Its funny that the one big thing thing that makes lean more toward GG than staying 100% neutral is that the other side is so smug, venomous, and just generally easier to hate. Also, you know, not calling saying I'm somehow worse than actual real life fanatical murders helps gain my sympathy a bit.
Precisely how I've felt for some time now. I've tried remaining neutral, adopting (or rather speaking out in favor of) only those ideas I support from either side whilst avoiding associating myself with the ideologies. But the more this plays out the more the anti-side demonstrates how hypocritical it is about harassment, threats, hate-speech, racism, and sexism.

At this point all I want is for everyone to calm the fuck down, take a month off, and come back after a breather. Maybe having some time to actually think about the topic they won't be so quick to run their mouths.

. . .

Oh who am I kidding? That'll probably make it worse.