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That was a bit absurd,though I admit there seems to be some content missing from the video. They didn't seem to let the guy elaborate on what he gets out of it and what he really enjoys. I agree that they should have challenged them to actually play a game or two with him. It seems to happen to be quite widespread that tv shows only have one authority on the video games they attack and several against video games this always tends to sway the subjects in the favor of anti video game people. There really should be a largish group of gaming authorizes ask to be on a show and show them the good in gaming!
 

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squid5580 said:
connall said:
squid5580 said:
connall said:
squid5580 said:
Look I know games sometimes get a bad rap in the media. But holy crap gamers hypersensitive much? Seriously getting all nerdragey the moment a bit of justifiable negative light is shed on our hobby is only enforcing the stereotype.

godofallu said:
Wow Tyra is a total *****. Holy shit.

I would have slapped that whore of a girlfriend, called Tyra a jaded ***** and left.

If your girlfriend forces you to choose between your favorite hobby or her, she isn't the right girl.
Right how dare she ask for you to spend some time with her. How dare she ask for a little attention to tend to her needs? Or did you completely miss the part where everyone agreed that it is fine he plays games. But maybe he should step away from the controller once in a while? That maybe it isn't all that healthy to neglect real life because I R GAMER derp.

Reading some of these responses makes me glad I am not a gamer. I am just a person who plays games quite regularly. Keeps himself updated on the gaming news. And has a general love of video games that he has carried with him since the days of Coleco. Being called a gamer I now take as a personal insult. And the media has nothing to do with that.
Fair point, my problem with it however is this is just a snipet of what happens in my country where you can't seem to listen to a radio or watch tv without finding a channel that is debating video games and kids and that is what truly pisses me off but my biggest problem with this video is that they suggest that these video games are for children not men, and altough short,no-one disagrees with that. I will say that this isn't the worst video I have seen of video games being debated on tv but I am sure people will walkaway the worst impressions on video games. If it is any indications of what the threads above are commenting on then think what the people who watch these shows think. I think the reason we are insecure is that we are afraid that these people will find some way to censor games just because they don't understand them I mean look at the mass effect debate look how blown out of context that was and everyone was taking it on board as the truth even though there was somebody there to deny those allegations and I think that is what frightens us the most.

You play video games but you are not a gamer now I saw something very interesting on this and just wandering what you define as a gamer?

Also am I gaming obsessed? maybe I mean I play games I learn how to make games so I can secure a position in the games industry, but you know what I also involve myself in extra curricular activities spend time with friends. Do I have a girlfriend. No. Why? Because at the moment it isn't something I can really handle with so many things going on I don't really think I could spend anytime with a girlfriend that wouldn't cut into seeing my friends. I know that IF you do have a girlfriend you need to spend time with her but again I think a couple of these people may just be ignorant.
Well first off the whole 13yr old was a crack. A joke. A bit of a burn perhaps. But if we can't laugh at ourselves or at the very least let a minor infraction like that slide we have a problem. I mean there is a huge difference between this and say the Mass Effect Sex Box scandal, the kid who killed his family because he played Devil May Cry (even though he was imitating Neo from the Matrix) or a car accident being blamed on video games because, no word of a lie, there was a copy of NFS found in the car that caused the accident. Those are a good reason to get pissed off and rise to the defense of our beloved hobby. But Tyra's little comments there came from an obvious non gamer. One who doesn't care or really understand our hobby. Just like you can't understand your Mom playing Farmville for the past 2 years (for example) and "gamers" make cracks about that all the time. There is absolutely no difference between what she said and any comment making fun of something like that.

And you misunderstood a bit. By definition I am a "hardcore gamer". I am addicted to gaming. I just tried to quit. I went 5 months not playing any real games and ended up burning my free time playing casual games. And I was miserable. But as soon as I went over to a buddy's place and he shoved a controller in my hand to play some NHL 11 (and I HATE sports games with an absolute passion) I was much happier. It felt like coming home. But I come to a thread like this and I am ashamed to call myself one. Not because of the video but because of the responses like the one I quoted. We want our hobby or pastime or whatever you want to label it as to be taken seriously. To be able to enjoy it in relative peace. And I am all for that. I'd be the first to tell a guy like Jack Thompson to stick it where the sun don't shine (hopefully in a tactful and diplomatic manner). But responses like that are far worse than anything that went on in the video. And far more damaging since it is coming from an insider instead of one born of ignorance or a lack of interest of gaming. And if we ever want to break the stereotypes, if we want to ever be taken seriously, we have to start dissociating ourselves from this "gamer" mentality.

We are at war. Fight smart. We as a community need to quit loading the gun, flipping the safety off, and then handing the enemy the gun.

Interesting you have given me much to think about. Also you called my mother playing Farmville which I say Cudos.
Now for something completely controversial. Don't think you mom is any less of a gamer because she plays Farmville. One thing far too many gamers think is that Farmville (or games like it) are easy. They aren't. Sure they require little skill and are very accessible. But the sheer amount of dedication and time required to master them (I guess that is a good choice of words) is far more than people give it credit for. To be able to buy all the stuff you want (without cheating by using real money) to make your farm look good, plus the missions themselves require alot of time. I almost guarantee if you took a hardcore gamer and a dedicated farmer and at the end of the week compared their times playing there wouldn't be much of a difference.

And they are just as passionate about their farms as we are about our FF7s and CODs.
That's true, however I never debated that Farmville is any less of game. In my eyes it was always something for the casual players not to mention thanks to Zynga (I think that's it) it has grown our gaming demographic to a much bigger audience however I do feel that a couple of Zynga games should just not exist. I do not think my mum is less of a gamer because she plays casual games because it's what she does if I criticised her for playing Farmville I would be no better than the people who berate gamers.
 

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Last I checked dragging the person you love in front of a crowd of people and just short of demonizing them for something that is a fundamental part of their existence is not really an action one does to someone they love.

Or maybe I am wrong. Whos to say.
Obviously you don't watch Maury, Jerry Springer, Jeremy Kyle (UK) etc but to be fair those people are usually idiots.
 

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I bet if you took this argument to people like Cliffy B. or JE Sawyer that you would be horrendously bashed verbally. Yes Cliffy B. can be childish but he still he is a fully grown man. I mean Tyra is in no position to be this critical to someone about time wasting when her entire life is about "using" her time creating clothing and shoes. I'm a guy and I don't go off and do these shopping benders, she is acting like the sexes are the same, as if men and women like to do the exact same things. Guys play video games and like to do more active things that inflate their ego, (not all guys but the ones that go out shooting stuff because they can, sorta guy) women go shopping and are interested in beautifying themselves so that they can look nice. I'm not jumping down the throat of women who like shopping or like doing other activities, its a fruitless effort. Overall this sort of garbage is exactly where is should be, on the Tyra Banks show.
 

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She mentions sports games and ignores RTS? I wonder, which genre is more popular... What the hell is G4 anyways?
 

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connall said:
squid5580 said:
connall said:
squid5580 said:
connall said:
squid5580 said:
Look I know games sometimes get a bad rap in the media. But holy crap gamers hypersensitive much? Seriously getting all nerdragey the moment a bit of justifiable negative light is shed on our hobby is only enforcing the stereotype.

godofallu said:
Wow Tyra is a total *****. Holy shit.

I would have slapped that whore of a girlfriend, called Tyra a jaded ***** and left.

If your girlfriend forces you to choose between your favorite hobby or her, she isn't the right girl.
Right how dare she ask for you to spend some time with her. How dare she ask for a little attention to tend to her needs? Or did you completely miss the part where everyone agreed that it is fine he plays games. But maybe he should step away from the controller once in a while? That maybe it isn't all that healthy to neglect real life because I R GAMER derp.

Reading some of these responses makes me glad I am not a gamer. I am just a person who plays games quite regularly. Keeps himself updated on the gaming news. And has a general love of video games that he has carried with him since the days of Coleco. Being called a gamer I now take as a personal insult. And the media has nothing to do with that.
Fair point, my problem with it however is this is just a snipet of what happens in my country where you can't seem to listen to a radio or watch tv without finding a channel that is debating video games and kids and that is what truly pisses me off but my biggest problem with this video is that they suggest that these video games are for children not men, and altough short,no-one disagrees with that. I will say that this isn't the worst video I have seen of video games being debated on tv but I am sure people will walkaway the worst impressions on video games. If it is any indications of what the threads above are commenting on then think what the people who watch these shows think. I think the reason we are insecure is that we are afraid that these people will find some way to censor games just because they don't understand them I mean look at the mass effect debate look how blown out of context that was and everyone was taking it on board as the truth even though there was somebody there to deny those allegations and I think that is what frightens us the most.

You play video games but you are not a gamer now I saw something very interesting on this and just wandering what you define as a gamer?

Also am I gaming obsessed? maybe I mean I play games I learn how to make games so I can secure a position in the games industry, but you know what I also involve myself in extra curricular activities spend time with friends. Do I have a girlfriend. No. Why? Because at the moment it isn't something I can really handle with so many things going on I don't really think I could spend anytime with a girlfriend that wouldn't cut into seeing my friends. I know that IF you do have a girlfriend you need to spend time with her but again I think a couple of these people may just be ignorant.
Well first off the whole 13yr old was a crack. A joke. A bit of a burn perhaps. But if we can't laugh at ourselves or at the very least let a minor infraction like that slide we have a problem. I mean there is a huge difference between this and say the Mass Effect Sex Box scandal, the kid who killed his family because he played Devil May Cry (even though he was imitating Neo from the Matrix) or a car accident being blamed on video games because, no word of a lie, there was a copy of NFS found in the car that caused the accident. Those are a good reason to get pissed off and rise to the defense of our beloved hobby. But Tyra's little comments there came from an obvious non gamer. One who doesn't care or really understand our hobby. Just like you can't understand your Mom playing Farmville for the past 2 years (for example) and "gamers" make cracks about that all the time. There is absolutely no difference between what she said and any comment making fun of something like that.

And you misunderstood a bit. By definition I am a "hardcore gamer". I am addicted to gaming. I just tried to quit. I went 5 months not playing any real games and ended up burning my free time playing casual games. And I was miserable. But as soon as I went over to a buddy's place and he shoved a controller in my hand to play some NHL 11 (and I HATE sports games with an absolute passion) I was much happier. It felt like coming home. But I come to a thread like this and I am ashamed to call myself one. Not because of the video but because of the responses like the one I quoted. We want our hobby or pastime or whatever you want to label it as to be taken seriously. To be able to enjoy it in relative peace. And I am all for that. I'd be the first to tell a guy like Jack Thompson to stick it where the sun don't shine (hopefully in a tactful and diplomatic manner). But responses like that are far worse than anything that went on in the video. And far more damaging since it is coming from an insider instead of one born of ignorance or a lack of interest of gaming. And if we ever want to break the stereotypes, if we want to ever be taken seriously, we have to start dissociating ourselves from this "gamer" mentality.

We are at war. Fight smart. We as a community need to quit loading the gun, flipping the safety off, and then handing the enemy the gun.

Interesting you have given me much to think about. Also you called my mother playing Farmville which I say Cudos.
Now for something completely controversial. Don't think you mom is any less of a gamer because she plays Farmville. One thing far too many gamers think is that Farmville (or games like it) are easy. They aren't. Sure they require little skill and are very accessible. But the sheer amount of dedication and time required to master them (I guess that is a good choice of words) is far more than people give it credit for. To be able to buy all the stuff you want (without cheating by using real money) to make your farm look good, plus the missions themselves require alot of time. I almost guarantee if you took a hardcore gamer and a dedicated farmer and at the end of the week compared their times playing there wouldn't be much of a difference.

And they are just as passionate about their farms as we are about our FF7s and CODs.
That's true, however I never debated that Farmville is any less of game. In my eyes it was always something for the casual players not to mention thanks to Zynga (I think that's it) it has grown our gaming demographic to a much bigger audience however I do feel that a couple of Zynga games should just not exist. I do not think my mum is less of a gamer because she plays casual games because it's what she does if I criticised her for playing Farmville I would be no better than the people who berate gamers.
You know Zynga really isn't that bad. I mean the only games I would really knock them for is Mafia Wars and Vampire Wars. Just pick one. They are the same game with a slightly different setting and that is it. The real problem is the knock offs. The "Farmerandas" and "The Burbs." They are the same game with different graphics. And usually not as good.

One day I logged into my facebook and I have this hardcore Cafe World player on my list. I mean level 500+ HARDCORE. And because she is a hardcore player someone accused her of cheating (just some random person). And she snapped. She made this huge post one her wall that was albeit angry but also filled with such a passion for her game, it was almost fanboyish. If there is people who care that much about these games I don't see how it takes anything away from the mainstream gamer. Or why mainstream gamers are shunning them. We should be recruiting them to the cause. If we could get them to fight with us we would have a far better chance of ending the madness.

Sorry went off topic. Back to the regularly scheduled rant.
 

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Hypocrisy tho!



"People who play video games are weird losers, so buy my video game, girls!"

Video games are so mainstream now that I find it weird that it's still a topic in this way. When even Tyra Banks has a video game based on her shows, you know that video games are a universal, multiple-demographic medium, and not just a thing for teenage boys or nerdy older guys.
She's just mad because the goons raided her crappy MMO. Didn't know she had an MMO? Well she did.

 

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Tyra Banks is just another in a long list of people who need to be put on a rocket and shot into the sun.

All in all, I would have liked to see Adam on the show, perhaps even with Morgan. I used to like Morgan, but now she just seems to come across as, out of touch?
 

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Shows like this are devious. Honestly, they could film you saying "Hi, my name is and edit it to say "hi! I kick orphans and drown puppies!"

Anyway, games haven't been just aimed at kids since like the 80's.

They are one of the big three entertainment media now. "decoding" why people play games is like decoding why people listen to music or watch movies. END. OF.
 

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Tyra Banks. Who is this putrid ***** and why does anyone care about her, or her opinions? What did she do to deserve her fame? Why are half-wit sluts like her put on a golden pedestal, While intelligent people with valuable input are set aside?

Video games, are important, fun, they work your mind, let you delve into the depths of your brain and think in ways other people can't comprehend or are to stuck up to appreciate. Everyone sees video games as this tool of destruction because they don't completely understand them, and as silly as it sounds, it's true.

And again, This is AMERICAN TELEVISION! Is that even a real couple!? YOU'LL NEVER KNOW.

Everything on TV nowadays is a fucking joke, made to keep the unwashed masses happy and dazed, flashing lights and sounds are the only thing these fucking worms are picking up from this shit.

RAGE.

EDIT: This video pisses me off so much I can't continue to write anything worth reading, Just a bunch of angry nonsense so I'll stop.
 

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Skullkid4187 said:
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Skullkid4187 said:
Oh Morgan....i still have a crush on you
Back off *****, she's miiiiiine

I'm sorry I can't go too long without a ygotas quote.

We can share?
no one can share Morgan Devlin!
But she has perfect hair, and those gorgeous eyes. " Don't forget my sweet ass" And a sweet ass too!

I actually have no idea who this woman is, I just wanted to make a quote.
 

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CD-R said:
She's just mad because the goons raided her crappy MMO. Didn't know she had an MMO? Well she did.

Watching that affront to gaming took three minutes of my life, and I want them back!
 

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Why should men devout themselves to their allmighty goddesses, guess what equality means equal not oh well my gender was long listed for a while that means its my turn to be demanding. Dude I hope you just keep on doing what your doing.
 

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What I want to know is: does this woman do stupid, waste of time things like buying clothes, shoes, make-up, hair, or--oh wait, I'm sorry, I forgot, wasting time and money on THOSE things is okay.

One of my favorite arguments against games is "all that time wasted could be better spent elsewhere!"

Like where? On a job? I have a job. On friends? My friends play games with me. On hobbies? Gaming is a hobby. On charity? I give to charity, I still have plenty left for games. On a girl?

Seems to me the only problem here is someone who thinks that they are in a place to criticize someone's life.

Someone like Tara, in the FASHION industry of all things, really has no place judging people based on obsessing over useless things.
You stole my words!

Coming from the woman who spends more on shoes than most people do on a house and car combined, she is a little high and mighty about other peoples interests.

The woman from X-play (or whatever) has got to be the craziest one there, shes works on a game show and she is spouting that non sense? Is she there 'cos shes not that ugly? Were did she get this idea that male gamers do this? I play RPG's and FPS's does that mean I am an adreline junkie who just wants to be loved in a boring world?

Most mums play bejewled and farm ville, does that mean they want to work hard in a field and play with shiny things?

The girlfriend seems like a "your not bad looking but your personality isn't what I what, I shall make you into my perfect boyfriend", he is not a project to be done up so your happy with it!

Still the Alan titmarsh thing was a million times worse....
 

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Liquid Ocelot said:
From someone who has a GIF of Tyra as their Avatar, I find it hard to take your post seriously.. As it's likely biased.
But you would be horribly horribly wrong. I don't particularly care for Tyra as a social commentator, I just think she has some hilarious over-the-top moments.

So yeah, it's for serious.
Get off my internets with your poor mans Oprah.
 

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squid5580 said:
godofallu said:
squid5580 said:
Look I know games sometimes get a bad rap in the media. But holy crap gamers hypersensitive much? Seriously getting all nerdragey the moment a bit of justifiable negative light is shed on our hobby is only enforcing the stereotype.

godofallu said:
Wow Tyra is a total *****. Holy shit.

I would have slapped that whore of a girlfriend, called Tyra a jaded ***** and left.

If your girlfriend forces you to choose between your favorite hobby or her, she isn't the right girl.
Right how dare she ask for you to spend some time with her. How dare she ask for a little attention to tend to her needs? Or did you completely miss the part where everyone agreed that it is fine he plays games. But maybe he should step away from the controller once in a while? That maybe it isn't all that healthy to neglect real life because I R GAMER derp.

Reading some of these responses makes me glad I am not a gamer. I am just a person who plays games quite regularly. Keeps himself updated on the gaming news. And has a general love of video games that he has carried with him since the days of Coleco. Being called a gamer I now take as a personal insult. And the media has nothing to do with that.
You're a fool if you think his girlfriend cares about him, she brought him on that show to berate him. Whether he deserved berating or not (he didn't) makes no difference. Noone should be berated on television like that by their "loved one".

Tyra looks down on anyone who plays videogames, you included. You must be 13, why else would you allow someone to look down on you and then defend them.
Lol you know there is a difference between who I am and what I do right? Gaming doesn't define who I am. It may be an important hobby to me but that is where it ends. I love that you accuse me of being 13 with that kind of mentality though. Well done.

And you wonder why gamers can't shake these stereotypes. Say one slightly negative thing and we look like a bunch of 5 yr olds.
Tyra said that videogames are for 13 year olds, you didn't take offense to that yet you admit to playing videogames.

Obviously I know that there is a difference between what someone does (plays videogames) and who they are. That's the entire reason why that video was offensive. Tyra backhandedly mentions that gaming is for children, then Morgan comes in and explains how each type of videogame is played by different types of people. All of these views were linking what someone does to a stereotype of who they are.

Then you come in and link what people do (play videogames) to a different attitude. You're the blanket sweeper on this one, and in my opinion you must be extremely ignorant on relationships to side with the girlfriend.
 

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squid5580 said:
Alexnader said:
squid5580 said:
godofallu said:
snip.
So you don't identify yourself by your hobbies, congratulations. However the idea that you'd take being linked with gaming culture in a definite way as an insult due to comments seen here is just ridiculous and unnecessarily inflammatory. For one thing you can't paint everyone with the same brush, something that the conservative media that you don't appear to support have been trying to do for some time. Some of the comments here have been stupid, some of them have been insightful or at the very least civil and the reason for that variation is because of the universal truth that people are individuals and usually their levels of stupidity have nothing to do with anything as arbitrary as their hobbies.

Secondly have you considered that another reason for some of the more inflammatory comments here is (apart from people being people i.e. sometimes stupid) the shock value of what we just saw on that show? A woman takes her high school sweetheart and sticks him up in front of a biased audience which basically forces him to say "sure I'll spend less time on my hobby". Exactly how much input did the guy get? A couple of nods, some awkward admission. It's disgusting, I don't care if the problem was that he spent too much time gaming or making cabinets or model trains or whatever, the idea that this highly American daytime TV phenomenon even exists is awful. I'm sure it worked wonders for the relationship too, "Gee thanks honey for embarrassing me in front of a national audience, I really want to spend time with you now that I know you're capable of a betrayal of this magnitude". As far as I'm concerned as long as the relationship problem does not involve any laws being broken then it should stay between the two partners and any relevant therapists/friends/family. That's the reason why for a few moments I was sorely tempted to think of every woman on that show as a **** and no doubt that's part of the reason for the flaming we see here.
Your whole arguement is based on one thing. That he was walked to the stage, tied to the chair and the whole topic was revealed right there on the spot. And being tied to the chair he couldn't get up and walk away. This is of course under the assumption he is who he says he is and isn't a paid actor or just an attention whore claiming his 15 minutes of fame. But judging by his reaction he didn't act surprised by the reason he was there so I have to conclude he knew before he got to the set. And was a willing participant. As was she. So 2 consenting adults doing something perfectly legal in front of a camera sounds fine to me. Sure I agree with you that it should have been done behind close doors but hey this is the society we live in. We have shows like "hoarders" and "intervention". You wouldn't catch me dead on one of these shows but some people like them, other people see they like them, and people abviously want to be on them so all parties are happy. I doubt in this day and age of everybody suing everybody else that these "unwitting participants" are taking one step in front of the camera without at least signing a contract to what is in store for them. But hey I could be wrong and he was ambushed and froze like a deer in the headlights. And that was the tenth couple they had up there because the rest ran. I don't know what happens behind the scenes before the show starts. It wasn't like a big secret show where she tells him she is pregnant by his brother or something so I can only go by logic and his reactions. Both of which say he knew before the camera started rolling.

Oh and I wouldn't call the audience biased. I would be more akin to call them sheep. Not that they really are mindless sheep following the pack but for that hour they are most likely swept up in the moment following the star (in this case Tyra). If Tyra had said ya gaming is so awesome I love gaming the audience reaction would have been the same. Right or wrong it has got to be kept in context. And again not everyone is going to see that gaming was somehow demonized either. or is video games such a fragile industry that pointing at 1 guy who may have an addiction is somehow shaming us all?

Now as for my inflammatory remarks. Well that is exactly what they are meant to be. Now you seem to have misconstrued a couple points though. I am not painting with a broad brush. I am not for a second saying all gamers are "gamers." What I am saying is we need to disassociate ourselves from the "gamers" if we ever want to get anywhere. They are the Tea Party to our Liberal party, the Desboro church to our Christianity. They are fanatics. And they are louder, and at the end of the day counterproductive to the cause since all they are doing is reinforcing the stereotype. So if my post offends them oh well then my work here is done. Maybe it will give them pause for thought. That is why I wrote it. I am cringing at the thought of how many angry letters were sent to Tyra over this from "gamers."
"And another thing..."

Regardless of whether or not what occurred up there was an old school ambush or some cheap cash in for 15 minutes of fame, the fact is it appeared to me like he'd been put up on the spot and it probably appeared that way to others as well. Potentially increasing the anger that they then proceeded to express.

Secondly I never said the audience was biased against gaming, just that they were biased against him. So if they're all on Tyra's side and she's on a different side to the guy then they sure aren't on his side.

Lastly what you're saying is that you're trolling for great justice. Being deliberately inflammatory in order to "shock" the people you don't like (gamers). The problem with that tack is that there is no Tea Party of gamers, they aren't an organised group or sect that the majority can disassociate itself from. Every one of us is a gamer's just that some of us are douchebags. No matter what medium a group of fans partake in whether it be games, movies or theatre there will always be tools among them. We can no more disassociate ourselves from these tools on a mass level than we can disassociate from ourselves. On a personal level sure, ignore these individuals and they might calm down but don't say there needs to be some kind of mass concerted effort to purge them.
 

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It's kind of funny how Morgan Webb, who has stated repeatedly that she IS a gamer, is pretty much assigning game types to types of guys who play them (or at least what they think I suppose).

I can't say it's totally inaccurate, but I also don't think pushing guys into groups and not giving games a try yourself makes it seem like we're being labeled as the bad guys or being in the wrong when in actuality they aren't really giving it a chance.

I'm sure there are guys who end up neglecting other things because of games, but at the same time, I don't think writing it off is a good way to deal with it.

Now, I noticed Morgan Webb was sympathetic to this somewhat, but did you honestly get the feeling the girls in the audience gave a damn about games?

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GiantRaven said:
Holy crap. That poor editor. Just watching that clip made me feel like someone had shoved their boot up my rectum.

Also, Hurt Locker is not anti-war. Its a candid look at the effects of war. If anything, many of the scenes in that film showed a lack of humanity that would necessitate the full force of a nation to destroy (unwilling suicide bombers, hiding bombs in children you KILLED, etc).
Sigh, it really is ridiculous. They clearly don't care about a thing he has to say and just want everyone to jump on a bandwagon. The inquisition and the book burnings were the same way, they labeled something as blasphemous and harmful without caring about what they had to say in the first place.

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What I want to know is: does this woman do stupid, waste of time things like buying clothes, shoes, make-up, hair, or--oh wait, I'm sorry, I forgot, wasting time and money on THOSE things is okay.

One of my favorite arguments against games is "all that time wasted could be better spent elsewhere!"

Like where? On a job? I have a job. On friends? My friends play games with me. On hobbies? Gaming is a hobby. On charity? I give to charity, I still have plenty left for games. On a girl?

Seems to me the only problem here is someone who thinks that they are in a place to criticize someone's life.

Someone like Tara, in the FASHION industry of all things, really has no place judging people based on obsessing over useless things.
Haha, that's a pretty valid point. How is it that things come to be accepted by the general populace and then some things are flat out refused?

I don't like to only play one side of a conversation or argument, because then the other side of the argument is often pretty much ignored, as you have seen if you watched this "violence in video games" video.

I think that perhaps latent violent urges can be brought forth by video games, BUT I don't believe that video games can forcibly make you violent. If you are inspired to do violence by video games then the actual problem stems from something earlier, something else entirely.

I've noticed on primarily female fan-based shows like this, if a guy who represents Joe Q. Public like this comes on then he doesn't really have the ability to say anything, it's probably his first and only time on national television, and he doesn't really get a choice to speak when he isn't spoken to. Doesn't it feel kind of sexist? Funny how that works.
 

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I couldn't watch the whole clip due to extreme annoyance, but there was one thing that I wanted to comment on. The girlfriend was complaining about not spending quality time together, but she mentioned wanting to watch television together.....

Why is watching television considered more socially acceptable when it is more mindless. So she wants him to stop doing something intereactive (that they can play together and make it an even more interactive experience) so that they can have their brains drip out of their ears by staring at the television.

I bet most of Tyra's audience watches hours upon hours of TV a day, but that is a socially acceptable use of time or in many people's cases addiction.

My dad would say I'm addicted when I played video games for 2 hours in a row. He would tell me to stop so he can have the TV... which he would wash for 4-6 hour stretches.

I'm a girl that loves video games (but I also balance my life with many other things like playing piano), I'm sure the idea that girls play games too will cause the audience members' heads to implode.