U.S. Government Proposes "Internet Kill Switch"

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DoctorObviously

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Heh, there's more behind this than we know. But I couldn't care less. They could do this before they announced this. They're the US government, they can do anything they want.
 

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Yeah, great fucking idea USA, just pull the kill switch any time a website is unavailable due to DOS attacks.
That won't make it work again.

I can see some merit in blackholing specific areas in the world in case of an emergency though.
 

thenumberthirteen

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dkyros said:
thenumberthirteen said:
Don't scoff at the risk this could be Cyber 9/11 times 1000!

The trouble with the internet is it was designed to withstand Nuclear attacks. You can't stop the signal.
You mean... 91,100?!?! Dear God.
No. It's ten times worse than that!
 

Maverick Siragusa

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Mechsoap said:
i wonder what would happen to the internet when it was switched off and someoen accidently deleted the on switch....riots would happen for sure becouse people cant update needless statuses
and why should it affect all the world.... why not only america since america is the oen who thought they spend millions on makeing a switch
hey if were going down by some retarded switch were taking you guys with us

on a serious note what if the cyber ninjas attack the cyber president oh god
 

Latinidiot

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Pettu fools. do they not know that internet is God, the energy that connects and binds us? You do not killswitch the internet

The Internet Killswitches You
 

Hyper-space

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Hyper-space said:
jesus fucking jove, this is a government back-up plan, meaning that this is probably run by people 10x smarter than the average forum goer.
Dude, this is a plan to apparently "switch off the internet", which, as noted, is pretty much impossible without invading all the countries that have all the other root DNS servers and turning those off, because otherwise all you do is make the internet slower as the remaining root DNS servers have to route around the (now offline) US ones. (not to mention that the root DNS capacity would likely be expanded outside the US if this bill passed precisely to maintain operation in the event of anyone turning off the US root DNS servers)

This is a bit of feelgood legislation which will have no practical benefit, by people who do not understand a computer, let alone the internet.
I think the plan will be to turn off the connection state-side, as to prevent the cyber-attack from breaching the servers that the military uses, but not to turn of the ENTIRE internet, as it is impossible without international agreement or a resolution passed by the U.N.
 

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This is coming from the same group of people that believe the internet is a "series of tubes". I say let them try, there is entirely too much opposition to that bill. And if they did pass the bill all it would really do is create a market for foreign ISPs to sale satellite internet service to American consumers.
 

Ganthrinor

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Oh, the Irony.

The Interet evolved from a communications array designed as a back-up for use "in times of crisis".

I rofl at this. I rofl greatly.
 

SilverUchiha

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I hate my government. It hasn't been the same in years, decades even. I missed it back when it was run by intelligent people who wanted something good for this country and weren't just striving to acquire power or keep it despite their actions potentially being bad for the citizens of the country... :(
 

A123A123

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Okay everyone, listen up. Too much is at stake to look the other way this time. If we ignore this bill these bureaucrats in Washington will take away the one place left where there is true free of expression. Register at http://protect-the-net.proboards.com and lets figure out a way to stop this bill. Exercise you right to free speech will you still can.
 

tsb247

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craddoke said:
Oh, Lieberman! What zany right-wing paranoid fear-mongering will you bring us next? And, more importantly, what civil liberties crushing solution will you propose?

Gut miranda rights? Check. Deny accused criminals other basic rights? Check. Pave the way for a government seizure of the internet? Check.
You may want to check that. Senator Liberman is in fact a Democrat.
 

craddoke

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tsb247 said:
craddoke said:
Oh, Lieberman! What zany right-wing paranoid fear-mongering will you bring us next? And, more importantly, what civil liberties crushing solution will you propose?

Gut miranda rights? Check. Deny accused criminals other basic rights? Check. Pave the way for a government seizure of the internet? Check.
You may want to check that. Senator Liberman is in fact a Democrat.
100% factually wrong. See my longer response above for the real story.

Edit: Also, why couldn't a Democrat be conservative (although Lieberman is not a Democrat)? Or vice versa? Have we really become that small-minded?
 

tsb247

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GrinningManiac said:
OT: Is this just for the US? Cus I'm questioning why they would have any right to turn off British internet, considering A) They HAVE no right and B) We technically invented it
Uhhh... Yes and no.

The British invented the first modern web server (Sir Tim Berners-Lee at CERN in 1989), but they did not develop all of technology that went into it. Research ARPANET, a DARPA funded network that went online in the US in 1969. However, I will concede that ARPANET used packet switching - a British invention.

If anything, the internet was a collaborative effort that took place over a 20-or-so year timeframe.
 

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I don't really care what the US government does, so long as they don't turn off my internet I'm cool with it.

I'm pretty sure they don't have any right to turn off my internet bieng outside the US and all. Then again, the US government hasn't got a the best track record for observing others rights.
 

tsb247

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craddoke said:
tsb247 said:
craddoke said:
Oh, Lieberman! What zany right-wing paranoid fear-mongering will you bring us next? And, more importantly, what civil liberties crushing solution will you propose?

Gut miranda rights? Check. Deny accused criminals other basic rights? Check. Pave the way for a government seizure of the internet? Check.
You may want to check that. Senator Liberman is in fact a Democrat.
100% factually wrong. See my longer response above for the real story.

Edit: Also, why couldn't a Democrat be conservative (although Lieberman is not a Democrat)? Or vice versa? Have we really become that small-minded?
His own website states that he is registered as an Independent Democrat. All this means is that he is no longer directly tied to the larger party as a whole. He still caucussed with the Democrats after 'leaving', and he probably will again. He is not a true independent in the full sense of the word.

He still associates with the Democrats. In fact he refers to himself as an, "Independent Democrat, capital, 'I,' capital, 'D.'"

EDIT: http://lieberman.senate.gov/index.cfm/about-joe/biography
 

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In my opinion, this is simply a power grab, america is attempting to assert its authority over that which has no hierachy of command (the internet). This is a underhanded insulting move by the Americans, attempting to make a kill switch for the internet that would cripple businesses around the world, if this bill passed, the americans could effectively take over the world, simply threatening to turn off the internet and destroy a nations economiy if it disagreed with them.

No one would dare challenge them, and so it would be a beach-head for other bill/legislations to be passed, gaining more control over other countries, via the net.

Its time we understand that the internet, although not neccesarily a physical weapon, can be the most dangerous thing around.


To be short. The internet; Fuck off, its ours. - Net Users.
Note: This may not make sense to many people, its past midnight and im tired as hell. Take what you want from this post.
 

craddoke

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tsb247 said:
craddoke said:
tsb247 said:
craddoke said:
Oh, Lieberman! What zany right-wing paranoid fear-mongering will you bring us next? And, more importantly, what civil liberties crushing solution will you propose?

Gut miranda rights? Check. Deny accused criminals other basic rights? Check. Pave the way for a government seizure of the internet? Check.
You may want to check that. Senator Liberman is in fact a Democrat.
100% factually wrong. See my longer response above for the real story.

Edit: Also, why couldn't a Democrat be conservative (although Lieberman is not a Democrat)? Or vice versa? Have we really become that small-minded?
His own website states that he is registered as an Independent Democrat. All this means is that he is no longer directly tied to the larger party as a whole. He still caucussed with the Democrats after 'leaving', and he probably will again. He is not a true independent in the full sense of the word.

He still associates with the Democrats. In fact he refers to himself as an, "Independent Democrat, capital, 'I,' capital, 'D.'"

EDIT: http://lieberman.senate.gov/index.cfm/about-joe/biography
Exactly - it makes a world of difference. If he were still a Democrat, he wouldn't be senator - Ned Lamont would be. He is a self-serving opportunist with a tendency towards reactionary conservative positions, especially in regards to national security and the censorship of media.