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Nevyrmoore

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Spysix said:
You: Everyone should have DSL or better, so connectivity isn't an argument against this
Me: Nope, not everyone has broadband (which is synonymous to "DSL or better"), thus it is a valid argument
You: Oh come on, most people have *Internet*
Me: Internet isn't broadband.

We are talking about Ubisoft and their DRM scheme. All the games released with this mechanism are single-player games. The predominant method to access the Internet is still dial-up, especially after many households switched back to it during the financial crisis due to a lower base cost. So, many people *not* living somewhere in the slums are forced to maintain a inherently unstable constant connection to Ubisofts server (when they aren't down, which happened at least twice since the AC2 release) to not lose their progress and - in other countries, where you don't have a flatrate but a volume based or time based rate - have to pay additional fees to do so. To play a *single-player game*.

That is why this DRM scheme is so reviled on top of all the other internet based activation issues that come with it and have been discussed at length already. Like that one: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/7134-Experienced-Points-Activation-Bomb
I was too and mentioned internet or "broadband" which is somehow not synonymous unless you're talking about people still having dial-up then again I'll say its not a DRM problem but a ISP problem.

I'm not attacking you I'm trying to make things clear.
So, hold on. You're arguing that if someone can't have constant access to a server that will let you play a single player game, one that doesn't actually have any on-line features, it's not the fault of some batshit DRM, it's because the ISP was inconsiderate enough to not provide broadband?
 

Spysix

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So, hold on. You're arguing that if someone can't have constant access to a server that will let you play a single player game, one that doesn't actually have any on-line features, it's not the fault of some batshit DRM, it's because the ISP was inconsiderate enough to not provide broadband?
When talking about servers? No. Talking about a connection in general, I already said in my LONG post that only one replied well enough that if you have issues with their server, you, as the paying customer has the right to ring them up and give them hell.
 

squid5580

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Arcanist said:
squid5580 said:
Not helpful. The more they crack the uncrackable DRMs the worse the next DRM will be.
I'm a little scared to ask this, but.. Shit, how much worse could Ubisoft make their DRM? This latest iteration was outright draconian. What, are they really going to send out Ubi-Buddies now?
They could combine them all into a super DRM. Now there is a pleasant thought. Limited installs, cd keys and online whateverthehellUbicallsit. Include a retina scanner so only you can play it (can't have spouses or other family members scammin them now can we?). And of course every box will have a phone number and a random word. You will have to call them speak the word, give them the serial number and then you might be able to play.
 

squid5580

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Chrissyluky said:
squid5580 said:
Not helpful. The more they crack the uncrackable DRMs the worse the next DRM will be.
Even if they hadn't cracked this one can you honestly say they would stop developing more and more types of drm?(also this is very old news private torrent sites have had this for over 2 weeks now)
Depends will them stopping DRMs stop people from pirating thier games?

Also this news is fairly new if I am not mistaken. Sure there was other cracks but they didn't have access to the full game (although even the legit customers didn't get that without paying extra)
 

Chrissyluky

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Stopping drm wont stop pirates making drm wont stop pirates. and yes this is fairly old news a working crack for the full game has been out on a private site i belong to for 2 weeks now.
 

WitherVoice

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Weeeell. I'd love to play Settlers 7, but I'm not going to pirate it, and I most certainly will not buy it with that DRM in place. Once upon a time I might have bought it and then played the pirated, DRM-free version, but no. This is too ridiculous. They will not have my custom until that crap is gone.

Also, unless they allow you to turn off that goddamn "publish to facebook/twitter" option whenever you do something; my friend was playing it and we fully agreed that the person responsible for THAT shit popping up every time you reach some minor milestone... should be strangled in front of their family.
 

Ossian

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Spysix said:
It's 2010, everyone should have DSL or something better, that's like a new standard of living.
That statement is made in complete arrogance and ignorance. I live not to far from a town but my entire neighborhood is DSLless, look up areas without DSL and you'll be surprised to find a lot of people are without. I have to pay $40 a month for dial up, and this is in the grand old USA Florida.
 

Spysix

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Ossian said:
Spysix said:
It's 2010, everyone should have DSL or something better, that's like a new standard of living.
That statement is made in complete arrogance and ignorance. I live not to far from a town but my entire neighborhood is DSLless, look up areas without DSL and you'll be surprised to find a lot of people are without. I have to pay $40 a month for dial up, and this is in the grand old USA Florida.
Then like I said before, DRM isn't your problem then, it's your ISP.

but thanks for the advice, I looked up "areas without dsl" and I got a lot of sites offering dsl no matter where you are.

I'm pretty sure Direct TV can offer you a better internet, now I'm doing YOU a favor by looking up alternatives for you.

Anyone need lotion for the butthurt or do I have to keep repeating myself? How about you read my other posts first before jumping the gun. Talk about arrogance and ignorance..

Edit: Maybe I should just wrap the post in [sarcasm] code so I don't get another notification on the same post AGAIN..