jklinders said:
I did some digging this morning as usually 24 hours in the tech world is enough time for responses or additional info to pop out to hep things like this pass the smell test. So far, nothing. The 2 articles I found are using this one blog as a source and if anything are expanding on the editorializing in the blog. Both sites that hosted it seemed to be the type that attract PC enthusiasts and there was a lot of conspiracy theorizing in the comments. The original blog seemed to be quoting from a guy's memory rather than any kind of recording and that helps very little as well.
So if there is truth to this that is not just paranoid victim claiming, what do we as PC gamers do about it?
Yeah, i saw a few articles on other sites from the same source, except some didnt bother actually attributing the source and claiming it was their own info. Also the threat itself seems to have image removed and got delisted, obviuosly somoen trying to hide it (the way it works in reddit is that direct links still work even if you remove the topic from the forum. if you need to truly remove it you got to delete all the posts). i guess this... blew up more than i expected.
As far as what we do, well, first i would want more concrete proof before doing anything. but lets assume we got said proof, whats next? well, writing many letters to PR seems to actually work. writing a few is going to be ignored. however if somone in PR comes in in the morning and sees 20.000 letters in inbox, that will make an impact. much bigger one than whining on forums too. Also just not buying product wont work, however not buying the product and telling them why your not buying it will. when they get info that you didnt buy it specifically because of certain policy then its much more likely to change it the next time. and also - reward them for acting on it. if they change policy - thank them and buy the game. that will incentivise them to continue listening to its buyers. well, at least thats what i suggest.
Rozalia1 said:
Strazdas said:
I want to thank you for finally coming up with an explanation of what you mean by "marks".
Its versatile and means that in the context I used it in that instance. If I was to say I am Tyler Breeze mark it would mean something different.
ah, so its an "ill define my own insult to avoid bans" type of situation? changing definition as you please certainly will help make people understaind you right?
What reason does someone on a place called "pcmasterrace" (with a now deleted account from the look of it) have to lie about something to drum hate towards consoles...what reason indeed. Everyone knows the people in such a place are fair and unbiased.
The OP have anounced that Ubisoft will come to his school and other users suggested questions, he tried to answer them. whether he was biased or not is uncertain. While the location he posted certainly could create bias, it does not automaitcally imply it does. The person was gifted reddit gold, so i significantly doubt he willignyl deleted account unless this blew up in a way he didnt expect, which would be contrary to what you suggest by this bias, or an admin deleted it trying to hide something.
Yes you're not ignorant at the worthlessness of posting this bunkum no, that doesn't make it better (makes it worse as clearly you know better). So if you know what reason do you have for posting this? I can only assume you wanted reinforcement by way of having posters on the escapist issue the same type of responses people did on that reddit as that makes the most sense.
Because i wanted to discuss such possibilities and used this rumor level post as a jumpstart for discussion on such possibility. Perhaps i was hoping somone would shed more indepth knowledge of this possibility, because i certainly dont know everything but i want to know more.
Many games were either censored or blocked on the S/NES for their content (religious themes/references for example) by Nintendo, in fact its an infamous thing regarding Nintendo that I'm wondering how you do not know this. The seal was to tell people the games were official and not knockoffs, and if Nintendo didn't like certain things in your game they would get you to censor/remove it or they'd not approve your game.
Like i said, the difference back then was censoring/blocking games and not changing them to for example look less bad on your console in comparison.
You are arguing something true since the NES days is some new thing, it isn't. Trying to salvage that point is only exposing your lack of knowledge regarding history, or if we are cynical how far you're willing to go to keep arguing an incorrect point.
You are claiming that Nintendo would pick features they dont like and ask them to add/remove features. if it truly was that bad back then then the whole "seal of approval" is even worse than it looked like.
Ubisoft haven't said anything, there is no evidence any of the things reported to have been said were said.
because ubisoft is going to admit to something like this even if they did it.... right.....
Evil Within was locked at 30 due a choice by the developers of having every version running the same, if you want to call them liars who work for the cabal than go ahead, but you'll have no evidence.
Whose choice it is is unknown but what is know is that it was choice made post-production because you can uncap it with a simple console command and it would remain perfectly playable. meanwhile for example in Skyrim if you uncapped the FPS physics would break, so the code was obviuosly made to work on certain framerate.
why aren't AMD and Nvidia in the dock? Surely companies that want to sell their more expensive cards would be the ones who'd ask for such things.
They are? They both have massive support programs to the point of sending their own software engineers free of charge to help companies optimize and choose graphical options for their games to work better on thier hardware. they have whole programs of working together with developers.
Gladion said:
True, but there is no reason to believe that "we want you to remove X from your game" is the norm (or even happened once) by now. It is just what one online programmer supposedly said while talking at some school somewhere.
well, id say it has to have happened at least once for them to mention it. as far as beeing the norm i too hope it is not.
Guess I messed up a little, let me clarify: My point wasn't that pissing on publishers' demands would lead to the downfall of Sony/MS. As Nintendo, they are far too rich for that. It would lead to their alienation from pretty much the entire rest of the market, though - again, as Nintendo. And as with Nintendo's Wii U, that, in turn, would lead to not quite optimal sales figures. Unlike Nintendo, however, their fanbases aren't as uniquely attached to the consoles, and they are sort of depending on third party games. So they're probably more cautious of not pissing off the people who make games for them and pay royalties.
yep, that makes sense. thanks for explaining.
