Ubisoft once again screws over PC gamers with From Dust
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Oh right... so you want Ubisoft to stop their important 'post-it note art' battle with a bank just to make some PC game that they pushed back release on by a month work like it's supposed to?
Are you all communists?
Are you all communists?
No, they don't. If they deserve my money, then they shouldn't screw me over on my platform of choice.Jabberwock xeno said:
Except for the fact that:Tanakh said:
a) That encourages Ubisoft's behaviour.
b) The game is a piss-poor PC port, probably the worst in years.
People like you make me sick, and somewhat happy many AAA developers tend to ignore PC gamers or just give them bad ports. The idea that there is any excuse to pirate a game is wrong. If it's a bad game, or a crappy port don't get it. If it has crappy DRM don't buy it, buy it and crack it, or buy it for a console. But stealing a game for any reason is just shows everyone that childish and self entitled gamers really can't be trusted.FieryTrainwreck said:
Personally I'm not going to bother, given the apparent shittiness of the port, but please explain: What functional difference is there between not buying a game, and pirating a game? Either way, the developers and publisher don't get the money. Morally and logically there is no problem, because nobody is deprived of anything.psicat said:
From Dust is basically broken. The control scheme is the absolute pits. Always on DRM I can live with, it is shit and I hate it (especially when my modem turns itself off randomly, not very often but it does happen) but if a game was good enough I could live with it. A broken control scheme I cannot.
You're showing by going through the hassle of downloading and installing the game you pirated, you have assigned value to the product. Maybe pirates wouldn't pay 15 dollars, but they would probably pay something if they had to. This shows the company it isn't a problem with having a bad game, just that they need to go even further in protecting their investment from piracy to force some of those people to buy it if no alternative was available.Gill Kaiser said:
devs =/= publishers.lacktheknack said:
In every situation like this I have heard about, it's always the publisher that causes this stuff. Back when spore came out, Maxis (the devs) released a tool to disable the DRM that EA (the publisher) had put on the game.
I bought it before I learned about the whole DRM thing, and it doesn't really bother me. I like the game and want to support the devs behind it. Ubisoft can go fuck off in a fire though. It is totally unnecessary and idiotic to put that kinda DRM in this type of game. This is why everything else they make I get on PS3.
Also yes, Bastion is a hell of a lot of fun.
Also yes, Bastion is a hell of a lot of fun.
"Screw Over" includes horrendous control schemes (which I've seen many people complain about), lack of graphical customization (it matters to me, dammit!) and a 30 FPS cap (???), which are all developer decisions.Jabberwock xeno said:
So no, I'm not mailing them any money any time soon.
The Xbox version is great, though. Terribly disappointed to hear PC's are getting the short end of the UbiStick. But hey, that's life.
I personally have not had many problems with Ubisoft when it comes to PCs. Their always-on DRM is irritating, I suppose, but I (PERSONALLY) have not been unable to connect to a network and play Convictions - though that may be in part because I only play cooperative on it, so... yeah.
I can't wait to get a chance to play Bastion. I was also delighted to see LIMBO appear on Steam, but I suppose that's another thread entirely.
I personally have not had many problems with Ubisoft when it comes to PCs. Their always-on DRM is irritating, I suppose, but I (PERSONALLY) have not been unable to connect to a network and play Convictions - though that may be in part because I only play cooperative on it, so... yeah.
I can't wait to get a chance to play Bastion. I was also delighted to see LIMBO appear on Steam, but I suppose that's another thread entirely.
Who's the dev for this? Chahi? If so, just get Another World or something he did that isn't a shit port. Ubi doesn't get any money, and the dev gets money for an effort which isn't being actively crippled. That, and you end up with a great game.Jabberwock xeno said:
Thanks, Ubi.
Now I can't even play my legitimate version of the game. Apparently, I can get through the UbiSoft Login but the program just started crashing right after the "E 10+" rating screen. I've already been able to play it multiple times.
This wouldn't be nearly as frustrating if I couldn't go on Youtube and find half a dozen videos where people HACK THE GAME IN UNDER FIVE MINUTES! Thanks a fuckin load, Ubi. You are criminals.
You are like the U.S. ATF giving money to agents to sell guns to drug-runners in Mexico, then bust the American shops that sold you the guns (Google THAT shit if you wanna bleed from the eyes). Fuck you, fuck your face.
Now I can't even play my legitimate version of the game. Apparently, I can get through the UbiSoft Login but the program just started crashing right after the "E 10+" rating screen. I've already been able to play it multiple times.
This wouldn't be nearly as frustrating if I couldn't go on Youtube and find half a dozen videos where people HACK THE GAME IN UNDER FIVE MINUTES! Thanks a fuckin load, Ubi. You are criminals.
You are like the U.S. ATF giving money to agents to sell guns to drug-runners in Mexico, then bust the American shops that sold you the guns (Google THAT shit if you wanna bleed from the eyes). Fuck you, fuck your face.
I really used to feel this way. Honestly, I did. But then, at some point, I realized that the people making "the rules" aren't objectively or morally or even legally correct. They're just the people with the most influence over a situation because they happen to have the most money.psicat said:
Large corporations have been slowly altering ownership models for the last few decades to the point where everything is rapidly becoming a revenue stream instead of a product. This doesn't favor you or me in the slightest, and traditional capitalist means for rebellion (you know, not buying stuff) doesn't really seem to work anymore - the collusion between corporate entities, focused around the nexus of bought-and-paid-for government, is too thick.
Am I stealing any games? No. Am I buying any Ubisoft games? No. But if I'd pre-ordered From Dust under the assumption (based on what the publisher had already told me) that there would be no DRM, you better believe I'd be cracking the hell out of that game right now. I have no qualms about others doing so, either. And yes, it is specific to certain companies - companies that have shown aggressive tendencies towards the alteration/destruction of centuries-old consumer rights. I wish such companies actual financial harm; piracy, in these cases, is "eye for an eye".