Semantics much? If you can think of somthing that is a UFO that is not "alien" I would like to hear it. Be prepared for me to match your semantics by bringing up the dictionary meaning of the word alien.PsyberGoth said:
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Honestly I totally buy into the whole alien thing. I live in MN and a buddy lives out of the city a bit. At his house a bunch of us were watching the sky while doing so we noticed several dots going oddly fast and moving in strange patterns. All this was prior to see the biggest flash in the sky ever, it lasted like seriously 35 seconds.
Okay, lets say a tribe of natives who have never been exposed to modern civilization (and i'm talking no out side contact at all here) is still alive today. If they say an Airplane flying overhead, they wouldn't know what the hell it was, and thus, being unidentified, is an unidentified flying object. QED, i'm right.hypothetical fact said:
Oh, and for use of reference, I'm a believer, but i really don't think a superior intelligence that hasn't responded to our interstellar communiques is going to be taking day trips to this insignificant little backwater of a planet.
No it is identified just not by them. Ignorance and something being unidentified are not the same thing.PsyberGoth said:
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Jerk*sshypothetical fact said:
Highlighted in bold: A contradiction. Not being identified by them is the sam as it being unidentified by them. Therefore, ignorance and something being unidentified are, in this case, the same thing.
Your Logic, buddy.
What he said. UFO simply means it's undidentifiable. Ever see a plane fly over, and you have no idea what it is? UFO.PsyberGoth said:
More on topic, that's really cool! I've always wanted to experience something like that, but no luck on my part, unfortunately. Might be aliens (doubtful, though) but probably is some sort of prototype recon device.
Or, you were just really, REALLY high and don't even remember it.
I have to admit that looking back on it, it was pretty cool, but at the time it scared the shit out of me.ZeroMachine said:What he said. UFO simply means it's undidentifiable. Ever see a plane fly over, and you have no idea what it is? UFO.PsyberGoth said:
More on topic, that's really cool! I've always wanted to experience something like that, but no luck on my part, unfortunately. Might be aliens (doubtful, though) but probably is some sort of prototype recon device.
Or, you were just really, REALLY high and don't even remember it.
I think that if you want to see something similar, spend alot of time out at night in open areas near low populated towns, and I guess you would have a better chance to see something there then in the middle of a town.
This is a matter of perspective; they may not be able to identify it but if somebody nearby can identify it your logic falls apart. The object can not be both identified and un-identified so if someone can identify it than it is identified. Likewise if the object is an airplane and the air traffic controller knows that it is an airplane than it is identified.PsyberGoth said:
If there are no other people that know what the object than this tribe will have to ask every other person on the planet to make sure that it hasn't been identified, otherwise they are just ignorant.
I don't believe in UFO's because the object would have to be alien.
I don't believe in aliens so I do not believe in UFO's... Jerk*ss
if you live in new york, where was this? cause it can very well be the borealis that you saw. it's rare to see it that far south but it has happened
also what colour were the lights? they can be any colour but can also be a tip off as well. most sightings of strange lights in the sky, especially up in the northern part of the hemisphere are the northern lights and if you've never seen them they are REALLY freaky. i saw them once and had no clue what they were, pointed out to a friend who lived further up north who told me what they were and i thought it was the best thing since sliced bread and he was rather unimpressed as he'd seen them lots
also what colour were the lights? they can be any colour but can also be a tip off as well. most sightings of strange lights in the sky, especially up in the northern part of the hemisphere are the northern lights and if you've never seen them they are REALLY freaky. i saw them once and had no clue what they were, pointed out to a friend who lived further up north who told me what they were and i thought it was the best thing since sliced bread and he was rather unimpressed as he'd seen them lots
The universe is too big for me to believe this rock is the only one sporting life, and I've always found those insisting light is an impassible barrier to be sorely lacking in creativity. Yes, you can prove it mathematically, but the trouble with math is it's ultimately an abstraction.
That said, however, the OPs account is lacking in some important details in terms of where and when. For all I know somebody was testing some fancy light tricks or natural phenomenon.
The reason why we probably don't see too many aliens around here is probably a general lack of useful export. If I had a postlight drive, I could probably get anything I want from all the dead rocks out there without pestering the natives or catching the flu.
That said, however, the OPs account is lacking in some important details in terms of where and when. For all I know somebody was testing some fancy light tricks or natural phenomenon.
The reason why we probably don't see too many aliens around here is probably a general lack of useful export. If I had a postlight drive, I could probably get anything I want from all the dead rocks out there without pestering the natives or catching the flu.
im only assuming that aliens can travel at less than the speed of light. the closest place where there could be aliens is Alpha Centuri. even if there are aliens there, right now their watching the Romans kill each other. even if they wanted to meet the romans (and didnt quite get the whole speed of light thing) we're still talking about our childrens childrens children meeting them before we doianuam said:
While I do think it is mathmatically improbable that we are the only sentient beings in all of the universe, I do not think there is any real reason for any sentient species who have achieved the kind of technological advancement needed to reach us to come to the planet other than perhaps to study us in a zoological(or their equivalent if they have one) manner.
UFO's d exist as they stand for "UNidentifiable flying objects" the object in question must be unidentafiable since you didnt identify it but it isnt neccessarily aliens. Maybe its just a weather baloon and swamp gas. trust me when i say, if aliens DID have the technology to cross the MASSIVE void between us and any habitable planets they would be advanced enough not to care in the slightest about our stupid ways. Theyd probs just crush us like rodents. A race that has almost superhuman amounts of space travel technology will almost certainly be advanced in others ways as to be able to destroy us by blinking or the entire race is pants on head retarded. Its best to think if there is life out there, itd probs be more interested in other advanced aliens than with our boring lot. Theres only so much a probe can learn, most of which isnt wanted iether.
It boils down to this.
1.Aliens probs dont exist.
2.Aliens might exist but are so far away its impossible by any means to reach us.
3.Even if they can they dont care.
4.Stop spending valuable time thinking about it.
It boils down to this.
1.Aliens probs dont exist.
2.Aliens might exist but are so far away its impossible by any means to reach us.
3.Even if they can they dont care.
4.Stop spending valuable time thinking about it.
