Uh...where did yesterday go?

[Saelune]

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What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

Please stop. It is offensive and immature and you know it.

How is it offensive? He isn't insulting anyone in the LGBT community in this proper context.

As an LGBT person who went to Highschool, yeah it is offensive.

It is not offensive though.

Explain how using the word in a way which is either inherently negative or a derogatory put down isnt offensive?

Quietly placing bets that you dont identify as it, and are going to shrug it off as 'just a thing people say, not a big deal'.

Marik wasn't using it to insult somebody, if he was wouldn't he be modded? Context matters. Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
"Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual. The term was originally used to mean "carefree", "cheerful", or "bright and showy"."

If Marik was openly using it to insult someone, then I wouldn't be defending him now.

'If he did something wrong, then he would be punished' is not sound logic.



And no, 'If I am defending them, then they did nothing wrong' is also not sound logic.


Here is context for you, an LGBT person is offended by their use of the word but two non LGBT people said it is ok. Who to believe?

 

[n0e]

The day offended me, so I contacted my buddy Thanos to snap his fingers and make the day disappear.

 

[Majestic_Manatee]

SNIP

What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

Please stop. It is offensive and immature and you know it.

How is it offensive? He isn't insulting anyone in the LGBT community in this proper context.

As an LGBT person who went to Highschool, yeah it is offensive.

It is not offensive though.

Explain how using the word in a way which is either inherently negative or a derogatory put down isnt offensive?

Quietly placing bets that you dont identify as it, and are going to shrug it off as 'just a thing people say, not a big deal'.

Marik wasn't using it to insult somebody, if he was wouldn't he be modded? Context matters. Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
"Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual. The term was originally used to mean "carefree", "cheerful", or "bright and showy"."

If Marik was openly using it to insult someone, then I wouldn't be defending him now.

'If he did something wrong, then he would be punished' is not sound logic.



And no, 'If I am defending them, then they did nothing wrong' is also not sound logic.


Here is context for you, an LGBT person is offended by their use of the word but two non LGBT people said it is ok. Who to believe?

Refer to anything you are disgusted by as "cis white male" from now on. Obviously there's no offence to be found in that, is there? How would anyone have a problem with that?

 

[Saelune]

SNIP

What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

Please stop. It is offensive and immature and you know it.

How is it offensive? He isn't insulting anyone in the LGBT community in this proper context.

As an LGBT person who went to Highschool, yeah it is offensive.

It is not offensive though.

Explain how using the word in a way which is either inherently negative or a derogatory put down isnt offensive?

Quietly placing bets that you dont identify as it, and are going to shrug it off as 'just a thing people say, not a big deal'.

Marik wasn't using it to insult somebody, if he was wouldn't he be modded? Context matters. Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
"Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual. The term was originally used to mean "carefree", "cheerful", or "bright and showy"."

If Marik was openly using it to insult someone, then I wouldn't be defending him now.

'If he did something wrong, then he would be punished' is not sound logic.



And no, 'If I am defending them, then they did nothing wrong' is also not sound logic.


Here is context for you, an LGBT person is offended by their use of the word but two non LGBT people said it is ok. Who to believe?

People have used the word gay as a non-insult for a long time, is the majority of the population now homophobic for saying it?

Classic moving of goalposts.

 

[Saelune]

SNIP

What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

Please stop. It is offensive and immature and you know it.

How is it offensive? He isn't insulting anyone in the LGBT community in this proper context.

As an LGBT person who went to Highschool, yeah it is offensive.

It is not offensive though.

Explain how using the word in a way which is either inherently negative or a derogatory put down isnt offensive?

Quietly placing bets that you dont identify as it, and are going to shrug it off as 'just a thing people say, not a big deal'.

Marik wasn't using it to insult somebody, if he was wouldn't he be modded? Context matters. Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
"Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual. The term was originally used to mean "carefree", "cheerful", or "bright and showy"."

If Marik was openly using it to insult someone, then I wouldn't be defending him now.

'If he did something wrong, then he would be punished' is not sound logic.



And no, 'If I am defending them, then they did nothing wrong' is also not sound logic.


Here is context for you, an LGBT person is offended by their use of the word but two non LGBT people said it is ok. Who to believe?

People have used the word gay as a non-insult for a long time, is the majority of the population now homophobic for saying it?

Classic moving of goalposts.

And you're deflecting.

I am not letting you put me on the defensive with your fallacy. Marik was being offensive and you're defending that. And yeah! A ton of people are homophobic for using gay the way they have. Again, I was an LGBT person in highschool. I heard it all the fucking time, because so many people do not care and do not appreciate how offensive it is to use what someone is as an insult. When you do that, you are saying that being gay is an insulting thing to be.

 

[Saelune]

SNIP

What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

Please stop. It is offensive and immature and you know it.

How is it offensive? He isn't insulting anyone in the LGBT community in this proper context.

As an LGBT person who went to Highschool, yeah it is offensive.

It is not offensive though.

Explain how using the word in a way which is either inherently negative or a derogatory put down isnt offensive?

Quietly placing bets that you dont identify as it, and are going to shrug it off as 'just a thing people say, not a big deal'.

Marik wasn't using it to insult somebody, if he was wouldn't he be modded? Context matters. Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
"Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual. The term was originally used to mean "carefree", "cheerful", or "bright and showy"."

If Marik was openly using it to insult someone, then I wouldn't be defending him now.

'If he did something wrong, then he would be punished' is not sound logic.



And no, 'If I am defending them, then they did nothing wrong' is also not sound logic.


Here is context for you, an LGBT person is offended by their use of the word but two non LGBT people said it is ok. Who to believe?

Refer to anything you are disgusted by as "cis white male" from now on. Obviously there's no offence to be found in that, is there? How would anyone have a problem with that?

We live in a world where Trump can say sexist things and be praised for it, but a woman calls out one of Trump's women and she is called a horrible sexist by Trump supporters. If anything, I call someone on here a cis white male, I will get banned. :/

 

[Saelune]

SNIP

What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

Please stop. It is offensive and immature and you know it.

How is it offensive? He isn't insulting anyone in the LGBT community in this proper context.

As an LGBT person who went to Highschool, yeah it is offensive.

It is not offensive though.

Explain how using the word in a way which is either inherently negative or a derogatory put down isnt offensive?

Quietly placing bets that you dont identify as it, and are going to shrug it off as 'just a thing people say, not a big deal'.

Marik wasn't using it to insult somebody, if he was wouldn't he be modded? Context matters. Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
"Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual. The term was originally used to mean "carefree", "cheerful", or "bright and showy"."

If Marik was openly using it to insult someone, then I wouldn't be defending him now.

'If he did something wrong, then he would be punished' is not sound logic.



And no, 'If I am defending them, then they did nothing wrong' is also not sound logic.


Here is context for you, an LGBT person is offended by their use of the word but two non LGBT people said it is ok. Who to believe?

People have used the word gay as a non-insult for a long time, is the majority of the population now homophobic for saying it?

Classic moving of goalposts.

And you're deflecting.

I am not letting you put me on the defensive with your fallacy. Marik was being offensive and you're defending that. And yeah! A ton of people are homophobic for using gay the way they have. Again, I was an LGBT person in highschool. I heard it all the fucking time, because so many people do not care and do not appreciate how offensive it is to use what someone is as an insult. When you do that, you are saying that being gay is an insulting thing to be.

He wasn't insulting anyone with that word.

Certainly insulted me.

 

[Saelune]

SNIP

What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

Please stop. It is offensive and immature and you know it.

How is it offensive? He isn't insulting anyone in the LGBT community in this proper context.

As an LGBT person who went to Highschool, yeah it is offensive.

It is not offensive though.

Explain how using the word in a way which is either inherently negative or a derogatory put down isnt offensive?

Quietly placing bets that you dont identify as it, and are going to shrug it off as 'just a thing people say, not a big deal'.

Marik wasn't using it to insult somebody, if he was wouldn't he be modded? Context matters. Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
"Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual. The term was originally used to mean "carefree", "cheerful", or "bright and showy"."

If Marik was openly using it to insult someone, then I wouldn't be defending him now.

'If he did something wrong, then he would be punished' is not sound logic.



And no, 'If I am defending them, then they did nothing wrong' is also not sound logic.


Here is context for you, an LGBT person is offended by their use of the word but two non LGBT people said it is ok. Who to believe?

People have used the word gay as a non-insult for a long time, is the majority of the population now homophobic for saying it?

Classic moving of goalposts.

And you're deflecting.

I am not letting you put me on the defensive with your fallacy. Marik was being offensive and you're defending that. And yeah! A ton of people are homophobic for using gay the way they have. Again, I was an LGBT person in highschool. I heard it all the fucking time, because so many people do not care and do not appreciate how offensive it is to use what someone is as an insult. When you do that, you are saying that being gay is an insulting thing to be.

He wasn't insulting anyone with that word.

Certainly insulted me.

Was it directed at you? No, and if he was he would be modded and we wouldn't be debating this.

I asked nicely for Marik to stop and they instead doubled down.


And again 'They were not punished, must be innocent' is FAULTY LOGIC.

 

[Saelune]

SNIP

What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

It is offensive and immature and you know it.

Which is why I keep doing it. I also like to use the word retard a lot.

This is Marik admitting it is offensive.

 

[Saelune]

SNIP

What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

It is offensive and immature and you know it.

Which is why I keep doing it. I also like to use the word retard a lot.

This is Marik admitting it is offensive.

But in the context that he used it in his posts, he wasn't being offensive.

So you don't believe the LGBT person NOR the person you are defending?

 

[Saelune]

SNIP

What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

It is offensive and immature and you know it.

Which is why I keep doing it. I also like to use the word retard a lot.

This is Marik admitting it is offensive.

But in the context that he used it in his posts, he wasn't being offensive.

So you don't believe the LGBT person NOR the person you are defending?

I do believe it yes, but again when he said gay he wasn't insulting anyone.

We are officially at the 'talking in circles' part of the argument.


http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.1055714-Uh-where-did-yesterday-go?page=2#24254467

 

[Saelune]

SNIP

What's with calling things gay? That's not like you, and its not 1998 public elementary school anymore.

Gay

It is offensive and immature and you know it.

Which is why I keep doing it. I also like to use the word retard a lot.

This is Marik admitting it is offensive.

But in the context that he used it in his posts, he wasn't being offensive.

So you don't believe the LGBT person NOR the person you are defending?

I do believe it yes, but again when he said gay he wasn't insulting anyone.

We are officially at the 'talking in circles' part of the argument.


http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.1055714-Uh-where-did-yesterday-go?page=2#24254467

Indeed, but I take back what I said, since again he never insulted anyone.

So basically you do not care about how LGBT people feel?