UK Student Protests: Wheelchair-bound student dragged across the road by police officer, BBC defend
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I'm sorry but I'm going to have to call your BS out on this one. Where in the blue hell do you see police wailing on the guy with a baton on the ground?!jedizero said:
Are you watching some other high quality non existent video of this from another angle? Cause the video I watched 4x over shows nothing like that. Hell the few people you can make out semi decently in the movie are the cops because they are wearing bright yellow and at no point do I see a yellow arm going up and down in a striking motion.
And this is further supported by the fact that the kid himself stated in the interview that he was not harmed in the incident that was caught on tape. He claims he was struck on the knee while he was sitting earlier at the protest, and absolutely nothing about being beaten down while on the ground.
So please don't make things up in the name of screw the police when your whole point can be fairly easily thrown out by anyone who watched the damn thing. Police misconduct? Maybe. Full on beating? No.
Hosker said:
There you go, that's why I called you naive. You didn't question, even when you've just seen a person unable to even wheel his own chair get thrown down to and dragged across the street by a pair of cops. You just assumed [insert generic authority figure] was right merely because he was [generic authority feature], and that's something I can't abide :/
while i usually dont blame police officers when something goes wrong, but i was there in parliament square, the police were usuing questionable tactics and kettling us before any violence or any kind of protest actually startedspartan231490 said:
in these student protests there is also a bit more going on, one of our leaders has promised us something and then went completely back on his word and the police are essentially enforcing it which is pissing already pissed off people, hence we arnt on good terms with the police atm
So dragging him out of his chair wouldn't incites riots? There were two other people trying to get the police officers off of the guy. There have been so many riots started specifically because of police brutality no matter what the accused had done. Rodney King anyone? Excessive force is excessive force. The 2005 riots in France pushed simple protests into riots.NeedAUserName said:
He has trouble just speaking as seen in the interview. Cerebral Palsy is an extremely debilitating disease, so I highly doubt that he was doing anything to entice a riot effectively. You could have easily wheeled him to the side and arrested him. Dragging a guy who can't defend himself across the street is just unwarranted.
It's a fee everyone who (technically) watches TV has to pay, though in practice merely owning a TV set is enough to warrant the charge (and they even tried to make me pay for having a PC - threw that back in t heir faces, lol).Choppaduel said:
The BBC's had a good history of remaining pretty impartial for a government-sponsored TV/News service - I believe it's had international recognition for its work in the past, and to be honest I couldn't see much wrong with the interview bar the aggressive angles to some of the questioning, it wasn't all bad (unless something happened in the last couple of minutes, I got bored).
I can't see how dragging a guy across the street is an effective bomb defusing tactic. Neither is shooting the bomber, that's just asking to get blown up.spartan231490 said:
Well for one, in the interview it shows that fact that he has trouble speaking. That alone shows that his words wouldn't be effective in enticing a riot. I don't think you understand the severity of Cerebral Palsy. He has the more advanced version due to his inability to walk. My cousin is only just a bit worse than he is, and my cousin can barely form words. If anything he's lucky to be able to speak. I agree that tyrannical governments suppress people but this is the UK we're talking about so that argument is invalid. Simple and plain. I'm not saying the guy is completely innocent but neither are the police. It's like the Rodney King incident. King was high on heroin and was pulled over for speeding. he attacks the cops. The cops restrain him. The cops then beat King while he was handcuffed. The cops are on trial for police brutality. The cops are acquitted even with video evidence. And the L.A. Riots happen. Those cops are lucky that the protesting students didn't jump them.
Because they can't, the proposal still has to through the House of Lords. If the Lords don't like it the whole process starts again.ShadowPuppet said:
Far too vague, the 'blame the cops' mentality is kind of lame when you don't have the full story guys. I'm going with neutral on this one, I don't know enough about the scenario to comment on it.
If you guys haven't seen the full vid, this kid blocked a police truck with his wheelchair. On purpose. He shouldn't have been such a twat, I mean they're only doing their job anyway. While that doesn't fully explain the police's actions, it's kind of his own fault.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaqsH3f5YKM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaqsH3f5YKM
I just watched the video, and I can say that it looks to me as if the person in the wheelchair was blocking the street and refused to move. This drew the attention of the police who asked him nicely to move from the street. The person refused to move and the police enforced their authority crippled or not. Let this be a lesson to you anarchists, if the cops tell you to do something, do it, or else you'll have it done for you and you won't like it.
It also smells like a setup to me, all these people claiming that the cops are out there trying to bait people to riot doesn't make sense to me. Why would police try to get people to riot so that their lives can be in further danger?
In my opinion after seeing what happened to those royals the other day, the police should start being really brutal to these twats. From now on it should be nothing but tear gas and bean bags, and then deadly force if it continues to escalate. The police have to get the situation under control by any means necessary, anyone out their further provoking them is bringing it on themselves.
It also smells like a setup to me, all these people claiming that the cops are out there trying to bait people to riot doesn't make sense to me. Why would police try to get people to riot so that their lives can be in further danger?
In my opinion after seeing what happened to those royals the other day, the police should start being really brutal to these twats. From now on it should be nothing but tear gas and bean bags, and then deadly force if it continues to escalate. The police have to get the situation under control by any means necessary, anyone out their further provoking them is bringing it on themselves.
He seems to have a double agenda to me. On one hand he's trying to bad mouth the police, and yes the video looks like the police are complete dicks, but then he starts talking about the rich and that's where I stopped watching. I feel bad for him, and I don't know the whole scenario, but he has a different beef to pick, other than the cop pulling him out of the chair.
look at the video...it looks like they were trying to get him out of a crowd with his wheelchair and he fell out...that sounds like no time to get him back in...a minor condition of CP where only his leggs are out of wack and well...you have an angry college student with a rock in his hand...im not on anyones side i dont know the story but they were trying with the wheelchair it looks like....and i really doubt someone is just that sick.......Ois said:
Watched 2nd video...Political Activist..ummm and he sounds like he was trying to start something. so just based on his interview im gonna have to go a little on the police side